 pnoskerPremium
join:2003-03-26
Stockton, NJ | Mozilla > Netscape Why would anyone use Netscape over Mozilla, its the same, just Mozilla has less extra crap bundled with it. | |
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| Re: Mozilla > Netscape said by pnosker:
Why would anyone use Netscape over Mozilla, its the same, just Mozilla has less extra crap bundled with it.
Because AOL tells them it's better, and we all know AOL knowns best when it comes to internet software.
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| | pnoskerPremium
join:2003-03-26
Stockton, NJ | Re: Mozilla > Netscape Hah, exactly | |
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join:2003-04-06
Stevenson Ranch, CA | I love my IE, why should even bother for another IE? Oh security reason? Naw, eat me.
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| Re: Mozilla > Netscape said by jun412:
I love my IE, why should even bother for another IE? Oh security reason? Naw, eat me.
Another IE?
Netscape and Mozilla are not IE.
As for security flaws...all browsers have them.
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| | | rpsmith
join:2004-04-19
Huntington Beach, CA | said by jun412:
I love my IE, why should even bother for another IE? Oh security reason? Naw, eat me.
Speed. "Eat me"...hmm, no thanks, you can keep your security holes.  | |
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join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY | Re: Mozilla > Netscape Speed. i don't think that IE will run faster than firefox on Linux.
IE is integrated into OS, so it's always loaded and here is that "speed". I can say that browser is fast in KDE (Konqueror)
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join:2003-04-06
Stevenson Ranch, CA | Re: Mozilla > Netscape Tested both of em, they worked pretty much same. (At least in my computer) Except, IE was much faster when I was loading cnet.com (It seems like Mozilla was struggling with web-site layouts and pictures but downloading text was faster). But now, i probably get pretty much same speed since i switched to DSLextreme (6000/608) from Earthlink DSL.
Now, about another IE, I meant Another Internet Browser, my fault.
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| |  MaggsPremium
join:2002-11-29
Woodside, NY
·RCN CABLE
| You mean AOL knows best when it comes to internet bloatware. Whenever I troubleshoot connections, I look for AOL software first. They use those "walled garden" protocols that don't work well with Windows, or any OS for that matter.
I left AOL long ago, its been 3 years now. I left cause of broadband and the fact that I am not tied to any one PC with a piece of software. I can use Firefox to access anything anywhere.
With AOL, most of the content is locked into special AOL addresses like aol://90.2.1.12, that way ONLY AOL users can access it. This view of internet infrasturcture is bad, since it keeps the good implementations out of the system design.
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| | Anon | said by pnosker:
Why would anyone use Netscape over Mozilla, its the same, just Mozilla has less extra crap bundled with it.
Hi, did you see new netscape? No? That's too bad.
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| | | Brand loyalty... While I'll admit that Firefix (not Mozilla) is better than Netscape, I'd gladly install Netscape for those times when pages don't work right with Firefox. | |
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|  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ | said by pnosker:
Why would anyone use Netscape over Mozilla, its the same, just Mozilla has less extra crap bundled with it.
Exactly, And it's free and doesn't come bundled with "support" junk that thoroughly annoys.
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|  AkumalDaveLife's A BeachPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
Minneapolis, MN | The COMPACT version of Netscape 7.1 is pretty darn good. I really prefer its Security/Privacy options over IE's "all or nothing" approach.
I downloaded the latest version of Mozilla - in hopes of running it as a completely separate browser - and was very disappointed when it read in my existing Netscape 7.1 profile... Had to use Opera for that purpose, instead.
In any case, I seriously doubt that AOL's new version will add any value to Netscape.
Dave
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join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL |  Forgive my sarcasm but...
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4 edits | Re: Forgive my sarcasm but... On the contrary....I think they're just now actually starting to wise up a little bit after riding the BYOA and "walled garden" concept into the ground...while absolutely refusing to lower prices or make any common sense decisions.
Allowing access to e-mail via third party clients? Discount Netscape branded dial-up? Mozilla based browser and e-mail suite? A shift to HTML content? These are signs the subscriber losses are kicking some common sense into them.....
They'll all still be filled with spyware, bloat, and crap....but that's no different than MSN, Yahoo, Earthlink, or anyone else....
I've long thought they should just integrate AOL with Roadrunner, offering a new, unified service....retain a simplified software experience for AOL users who want it, and a more traditional service for more experienced users. Tie everything in nicely with the Time Warner Cable network (after buying Adelphia), offer lower prices than everyone else, and use the world's largest media empire to saturate the world with the new offering....
I mean seriously, it's not rocket science.  | |
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| | wolfoxGentle Wolfox
join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL | Re: Forgive my sarcasm but... D'oh, not being rocket science is probably why I missed all of your points. However, there is still going to be that public image that they have built themselves into a corner with that they are going to have to fight. Myself and a few of my friends have had absolutely *terrible* experiences with AOL, even trying to get out of their "free trial" period.
They are going to have to present awfully good stuff to get people to shift from their "portals" that they already get with their services. (Not that the one I get through SBC/Yahoo! is any good to begin with - I like an unladened, raw connection, please?)
But one point that you present is going to remain a spot of contention for me. WHY re-brand and offer Dialup services? I realize that there is only just a 45% or so market penetration of broadband, so it is still a viable and attractive alternative for those that have-not. For me, being a broadband user - dialup is what I use when nothing else possibly could work! This includes humming the MacGuyver theme as I scan the horizon looking for any 802.11x I can latch onto with a home made dish. 
Now to play devil's advocate:
I'm with you on the Adelphia/RoadRunner idea. Pop in Netscape and sprinkle in support for 3rd party software, add a dash of "easy as 1,2,3" feel of AOL; fold in high-speed - slash the price off to a svelte and FLAT $35/month package which includes 3mb/300k HSI via cable... Shake -n- bake!
Damn, we might actually have the recipe for a winner on our hands!
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join:2004-04-19
Huntington Beach, CA | Firefox Mozilla Firefox is the way. About 100 times faster than Mozilla. | |
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| | rpsmith
join:2004-04-19
Huntington Beach, CA | Re: Firefox I do, especially in startup speed (and especially on older machines). I like the configuration screens in Firefox better too. | |
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| Re: Firefox said by rpsmith:
I do, especially in startup speed (and especially on older machines). I like the configuration screens in Firefox better too.
To each his own. I don't like the "kiddie" configuration screens.
They're both great browsers.
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| | Re: Strange noise - maybe hard drive? Isn't Mozilla 1.7 still in Beta? Why would AOL be building software based on something still in Beta? | |
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|  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Firefox is still in BETA and everyone likes it...why not? | |
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| |  steelgazePremium
join:2002-02-01
San Francisco, CA | Re: Strange noise - maybe hard drive? *Shrug*.. many people think Firefox is beta but it is really still in alpha stages.. | |
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|  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | said by gattaca:
Isn't Mozilla 1.7 still in Beta? Why would AOL be building software based on something still in Beta?
Isn't that the same thing as saying "Why would anyone use Windows". Yet, there it is, on tens of millions of home and corporate desktops, worldwide.
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| | | | Re: Strange noise - maybe hard drive? said by nixen:
"Why would anyone use Windows". Yet, there it is, on tens of millions of home and corporate desktops, worldwide.
Games. You get a few games in Linux and a few for the Mac but Windows rules the gaming world. | |
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| | | nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: Strange noise - maybe hard drive? said by footballdude:
said by nixen:
"Why would anyone use Windows". Yet, there it is, on tens of millions of home and corporate desktops, worldwide.
Games. You get a few games in Linux and a few for the Mac but Windows rules the gaming world.
Actually, it was more commentary on modern software in general. So much of it seems to be "beta quality" that the "beta" term seems to have little meaning, any more. Businesses and home users have gotten so used to garbage code, that practically ANYTHING is acceptabel, whether it has the "beta" label or is a "final release".
-tom
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| steelgazePremium
join:2002-02-01
San Francisco, CA | Maybe AOL plans to base Netscape on Mozilla after 1.7 is out of beta. Sounds logical to me.. | |
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| | | said by gattaca:
Isn't Mozilla 1.7 still in Beta? Why would AOL be building software based on something still in Beta?
1.7 should be out of beta in short order (was actually targeted for final on 4/14 originally). The only stuff left to tidy up is fairly innocuous and/or cosmetic, and the 1.8 tree is already rolling (tentatively due in July). | |
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 mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Nothing new Netscape is currently obsolete. | |
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no bloat, no activex, no java, no macromedia, no security holes, no problem just pure html and text in its nostalgic bliss. doesent work for newer websites that dont use pure html, but i dont mind. if that isnt obsolete then i dont know what is | |
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join:2001-04-21
Wilmington, NC
kudos:4
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| Only reason to use netscape the only reason i have netscape on my machine is because i like to use my netscape webmail account via the netscape mail client. Does anybody know any mods to use netscape webmail via mozilla?
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| | | Re: Only reason to use netscape I personally like the Netscape web portal, I read that daily and think its great. | |
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| | Maybe I missed it reading throught But...has anyone actually tried this product? I'm all for bashing AOL and how they have ruined the world with their internet software, but has anyone used the product before bashing it? | |
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|  TJ19971Blues fan with a cameraPremium
join:2003-10-11
Sioux Falls, SD | Re: Maybe I missed it reading throught Based on my past experience trying vaarious netscrape junk I will just stick to mozilla. No one has made a better browser in my opnion | |
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|  japPremium
join:2003-08-10
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·RoadRunner Cable
| said by kfsutops:
has anyone used the product before bashing it?
I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "use" the product? Would that be similar to forming an opinion from actual experience rather than heresay & brand-disloyalty? Man, you are a killjoy & obviously a throwback to the days of boring actual understanding and insight. Get with it, dude!, this is the dawn of a new era: collective ignorance the likes of we've never seen. Don't try to bring us down, man, 'cause we out number you pesky searchers of truth by .... well, I'm not sure how many but alot! | |
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| | I have no problem with IE IE is extremely fast, I have no problem with it. I like Netscape because of tabbed browsing, which is why alot of people use Netscape or Moz. Once IE addes tabbed browsing I will then use IE exclusively. | |
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| ntwrkguy
join:2001-08-07
West Lafayette, IN | Re: I have no problem with IE tabbed browser, IE load speed, IE compatibility
»www.avantbrowser.com/
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| | Well.... Not really ever been a fan of Netscape. I downloaded this and tried it, and it isnt half bad. But there was a thought in the back of my head...How come Google didnt think of this?:) | |
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| | | Re: Well.... OPERA, HO! Screw IE, NETSCAPE and MOZILLA, they all suck | |
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| | steelgazePremium
join:2002-02-01
San Francisco, CA | Re: Well.... And I'm sure everyone appreciates to pay money for there browser. | |
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| | | Ardan
join:2003-09-29
Rosemount, MN | Re: Well.... Some people actually have money to buy things. Opera is pretty nifty too, i'll say that much. | |
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|  EL_TB
join:2003-05-03
Fairfax, VA | I use Netscape. I like it. :: shrugs :: | |
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join:2003-09-29
Rosemount, MN |  Netscape revitalization
I think they making big, big improvements to the browser and getting that company actively working on it again is good for everything. Mozilla was founded by Netscape, and I think they could really do some good with a greatly-improved browser. Personally, I like the integrated things, and I know casual PC users (that probably don't even know what DSLreports is) that i'm related to enjoyed things like the integrated radio previously.
People shouldn't bash improvements to Netscape's browser, ESPECIALLY when they haven't even used it yet. They helped create the Mozilla group, they use mozilla's code and if you love mozilla you should hope this takes off because then others will be able to enjoy it . Besides, this could add a lot more developers to the mozilla project. | |
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join:2003-03-11
South Williamson, KY Reviews:
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| AOL = BAD aol is going to take firefox, bundle it with 500 different kinds of spyware, make it only with with aol dialup, and slap and nice aol logo on it and say they invented the whole thing.
Watch and you will see what i mean »www.ebaumsworld.com/aolcommercial.html | |
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| | only version The ONLY version of Nutscrape that was even close to any good was 3.04. That was when the big browser wars started between IE and Netscape. I used to use Netscapes 3.04 over IE's 3.02 all the time. Tried several version of the 4x's, but they are about as unstable as can be.
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kb8gt
join:2001-08-29
Grayling, MI | Netscape Is On My Machine I keep Netscape on my machine, because it has Composer. I made several web pages on Geo-Cities (The free on) before I discovered Composer. It was a great discovery.
For browsing I am slowly moving to Firefox, the same for mail- moving to Thunderbird.
The Mozilla with mail and the web editor was not quite the same. Perhaps it is just hard to let go of Netscape - at one time it was the 'standard'.
Improvements seem to come to Mozilla, Firefox and Thunderbird faster than improvements to Netscape. | |
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