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join:2003-09-30
West Milton, OH | Who cares More useless crap I could care less about. | |
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klamer
join:2000-06-09
Fort Worth, TX | Re: Who cares I care.
Competition is a good thing.
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join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
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| unless they undercut current viop providers or truly unbundle dsl...getting viop from vz right now jsut does ont make sense. I have a landline with them witht he freedom package(rural area..ell coverage not good to non-existant) and dsl...unless they want to drop my vz freedom plan at 40 something a month and make my dsl stay at 30/month and add less than 40/month for voip there is on reason to do it..at least not for me.
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join:2003-01-19 | Re: Who cares But it is aimed at others - like me. I have no home phone or VoIP - but I'm not quite happy with my unreliable cellular service. I'd consider VoIP if the price was right as a supplement to my cellular service. | |
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SquareSlinky
Premium
join:2004-05-25
Tampa, FL | Re: Who cares You can get reliable VOIP now with Vonage. I have had it a year and it works great. And they keep lowering the price for it! | |
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join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Re: Who cares I concur. At 15 bucks a month, you just can't beat it. Not to mention you get extra geeks points for having it. | |
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GNXPower
Got Boost?
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join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA | You obviously care enough to make a useless post about it.
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Lord Pancake
join:2003-09-30
West Milton, OH | Re: Who cares Well, all I hear is crap about VoIP this, VoIP that. And it doesn't apply to very many people. Especially the common internet/phone user. | |
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GNXPower
Got Boost?
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join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA
1 edit | Re: Who cares It applies enough that Vonage is able to sell retail kits at Radio Shack, Circuit City, Amazon and Best Buy. It obviosly applies enough that the incumbants are rushing to come up with VoIP solutions of their own.
VoIP is going to revolutionize home communications just like cheap digital cellular did for mobile communications. I use Broadvoice and Vonage, and both suit me just fine. If Verizon gets into the mix and can provide a better 9-1-1 solution, it will attract even more people.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| Re: Who cares said by GNXPower  :
If Verizon gets into the mix and can provide a better 9-1-1 solution, it will attract even more people.
Verizon would need to provide a rock-solid network connection at a low cost for that to happen. They can do it if they wanted to, the question is will they.
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GNXPower
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join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: Who cares No they wouldn't. It's certainly not stopping Broadvoice, Vonage, VoicePulse, Packet8 and others from getting customers. You add that with the perceived reliability of the Verizon name and they'll have no problem attracting custoemrs (especially if they ditch the POTS requirement for DSL).
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
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| Re: Who cares But isn't reliability needed to match the kind of availability you get with POTS-provided 911 service? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I am seriously wondering. The main selling point of POTS is that 911 always works, even during a power outage or other major disaster. Unless the underlaying broadband connection is as rock-solid, VOIP cannot sell 911 on that kind of promise.
One alternative for Verizon would be to include the POTS line at no extra charge (or for $5 a month or some other obscenely cheap rate). Give it as freebie for DSL customers.
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join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH
| Re: Who cares If the customer is using their DSL as the broadband source, it would be utilizing the same physical infrastructure as the traditional POTS. So yes, that signal will be there no matter what*.
And on the second part, if the Verizon VoIP customer is not using the Verizon network (DSL line) for the broadband connection, there is no way to give the customer a traditional "backup" POTS line. (unless you try to work something out with the local ILEC, but good luck!) 
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GNXPower
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join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Well POTS doesn't always work. During the last big N.E. power outtage for instance, phones went dead too. Plus add to that the fact that the vast majority of todays telephones are so fully featured they require 110V service anyway.
9-1-1 in and of itself isn't selling POTS. It's the lack of an alternative that is selling POTS.
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| 911 Emergency Let's hope the prices are below or around the prices of Vonage and other VOIP services. If they provide the same features, and offer RELIABLE 911 Emergency service then it would be good. Right now the only thing I don't like about VOIP is the fact that if I were to need 911 it might not work. If Verizon can figure things out with this, I see VOIP as a much better service then traditional copper POTS service.
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Anon_Blah_Blah_Blah
@rr.com
| Re: 911 Emergency Eh, I've dialed 911 *once* in my short 30 year life. I've got neighbors 50 feet on either side of me. If something happens and I cannot dial 911 over Vonage and need too, I'll goto their house.
If something should happen and I cannot make it to their house then oh well. I'll die knowing I saved a crap load of dough. | |
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| Another stupid Verizon thread? The DSL deployment was a joke and so will VOIP! It doesn't matter to me because Verizon refuses to invest and roll out services! How are they going to push this with nonexistant equipment? Have you tryed to get DSL lately? | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
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| Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? said by FuchYoo:
How are they going to push this with nonexistant equipment? Have you tryed to get DSL lately?
Exactly... is Verizon even relevant anymore these days?
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? Why bother? if you got verizon, you are already paying the BS/junk fees. theres nothing to get away from.
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GNXPower
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join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| said by FuchYoo:
The DSL deployment was a joke and so will VOIP! It doesn't matter to me because Verizon refuses to invest and roll out services! How are they going to push this with nonexistant equipment? Have you tryed to get DSL lately?
Yeah, I "TRYED" to get DSL and had no problem getting it. It would be a nice change to ditch POTS for dry pair DSL and VoIP. I run both VOL and Comcrap and if I just used it for surfing, playing games adn occasional downloads, my $30 DSL would do just as well (actually better because of the unlimited use and freebees) as my $45 Comcrap service. Dropping the POTS requirement and offering VoIP makes their already attractive DSL products more so.
Don't like DSL, stick with Comcrap.
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
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| Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? said by GNXPower :
It would be a nice change to ditch POTS for dry pair DSL and VoIP.
There was a thread here recently about »Naked DSL based in part on this article: »news.com.com/Verizon+to+offer+'n···095.html
I will be trying to remove my POTS service soon now that I have dsl on the copper.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? said by TamaraB :
I will be trying to remove my POTS service soon now that I have dsl on the copper.
Good luck. I doubt Verizon is going to make it easy for you to ditch POTS without screwing up your DSL service in some way.
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| Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? You live in King of Prussia, PA. That's in Lancaster County, I go down there every couple weeks. It's all rural, there is some places that are sorta populated but don't BS me and tell me it's easy to install DSL. I live in a town in Northern NJ, about 15 miles from New York City, and I can't get speeds higher then 320/128 from Verizon DSL. If they won't install a Remote Terminal here, what makes you think they'll do it for a market of farmland? I mean come on! You got Route 30 and those strip malls but right behind it is farmland. I always hear commercials for Comcast cable when I listen to the radio when I'm out in Lancaster County, so stick with that... But since you got it what's to complain about? Also just so you know Verizon is installing FTTP (Fiber to the Premise) in Bergen County, NJ. I saw the fiber trucks in my town today. They are rapidly installing it and I'm going to have fiber hopefully by 2005.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
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| Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? said by ooluser:
You live in King of Prussia, PA. That's in Lancaster County, I go down there every couple weeks. It's all rural, there is some places that are sorta populated but don't BS me and tell me it's easy to install DSL.
No, you don't. Because King of Prussia is in Montgomery County, not Lancaster Country. This place is nowhere near rural. I used to live in West Chester, PA however (Chester County) and could not get DSL at my residence there. Because of my dissatisfaction with Verizon at my old residence, I didn't even bother to see if DSL was available at my current residence. Cable modems, however, are available in both areas.
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join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH | Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? Come on...you know you checked if it was available. Don't even lie. If you visit this site then you know you have looked into it. I don't believe that for a second! LOL!!! | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
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1 edit | Re: Another stupid Verizon thread? said by SBC ST :
Come on...you know you checked if it was available. Don't even lie. If you visit this site then you know you have looked into it. I don't believe that for a second! LOL!!!
No, I really didn't bother to ask about DSL because everywhere else I looked, it wasn't available. Unlike every other Baby Bell, Verizon/Bell Atlantic just refuses to expand their DSL service areas. I just asked the landlord about cable modems and they said they were available. I figured with my cell phone I probably wouldn't need a telegraph line anyway.
You know you are obsessed with broadband when that is the first question you ask about a new place to live LOL.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | even free no thanks Verizon has upset me as a customer so bad i will never go back, even if it cost less. | |
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Tekkanano
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Alexandria, VA | fiber is good 4 u I want my fiber... | |
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TrustedZero
join:2001-08-25
Claremont, CA | Verizon I would definitely go with their VoIp if they allowed you to escape from your landline and it cheaper. | |
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join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ | Re: Verizon Dito. | |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| Verizon does VOIP right, kind of. If the residential service is in line with their business VOIP offering, it could be very nice.
We use their business offering, which is basically a rebranded Gobeam product: »www.verizon-vobb.com/
All the features that Vonage and the others have been struggling to properly implement have been working fine on our company's system for over a year -- click to call, dashboard functionality, follow-me/find-me, full-featured voicemail, etc. Oh, and the caller ID works the first time, all the time.
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