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MPAA Gets a New Chief
Valenti to depart, lawsuits coming?
by Karl Bode 12:40PM Friday Jul 02 2004
So far the MPAA has avoided filing lawsuits against broadband file-traders, but MPAA boss Jack Valenti has hinted it's coming - particularly if "educational" campaigns like their controversial "What's the Diff?" school program fail to slow film piracy. Valenti however will be replaced by former Kansas Congressman Dan Glickman starting September 1 - leaving the looming lawsuit question suspended in mid-air. Most assume it's only a matter of time before the MPAA adopts the RIAA's tactics of filing John Doe lawsuits.

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snipper_cr
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Combinations

RIAA and MPAA form the ICAA...Ilegal Company Asociation of America!!!
As long as the MPAA follows due process and doesnt make a single attempt at using the DMCA, all the more power to them. They are just doing their job. But the moment they start using the DMCA then the shits gona hit the fan.

Darwin
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Re: Combinations

Agreed! I'm really glad to see Valenti go. This Johnson administration dinosaur should have stepped down about 10 years ago.

As for the MPAA filing lawsuits, all I can say is: "Come and get me, Copper!"
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Thaler
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I think they already have pushed on the DMCA button. They have already got a legal injunction against 321 Studios, due to their #1 selling DVD copying software.

I'm sorry MPAA, but scratches happen! I'd rather have my backup scratched to hell, than have the origional! >

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Question about DVDs

Why aren't they made out of polycarbonate? Is there a physical limitation with the burning process that demands an easily scratched polymer or is it only for the obvious reason of planned obsolescence and replacement revenue?
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Lawsuits

So far the MPAA has kept calm and not madly filed lawsuits like the RIAA has.

Hollywood in some respects is just as bad as the RIAA. They fail to see the value of "fair use" as the Record Industry doesn't.

Wasn't the MPAA who was suing 321 studios for their DVDXCopy?

I would hate to have to boycott the MPAA as well as the RIAA, but it lawsuits start flying and 'fair use' continually gets swept under the rug, I may have no choice

There's nothing worse than an industry that sues its own customers.
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BOOO

Wow way to hammer the little guy. I mean with crimes like murder, rape, Bush's bullshit campaign on terrorism.. Sorry bush but you SUCK!! ( almost a trillion spent on "deposing Saddam, and wow 1000 dead americans.. Guess he'd never know the cost of life since he skipped out of duy".. Ok back on my rant... Burglaries, and so on.. The MPAA and RIAA take the forefront of crime. What a wonderful country when the republican party bows down to the corporate giants and fucks the rest of america out of privacy laws by giving them a blank check to do as necessary... Read about where they want to tap emails and internet so the feds can easily track terrorism.. Hum.. yea i wonder whom else they'll track... Invasion of Privacy 1... Corporate Conglomerates 2... The american people, pull down your pants, whip it out, and piss on the constitution that we've known for 200 years as its dead folks.... Thanks Bush... Next time the only Bush i want in Office better have tits.

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Re: BOOO

I agree with you 100%, what did you say?

Jason Levine
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Exactly what did the story have to do with Republicans? I'll admit that I'm a Democrat and want to see Bush out of office, but how does "MPAA Gets a New Chief... lawsuit possibility is open" = "Bush's fault"? This is a problem with the DCMA which was passed in 1998 (Clinton's tenure) by both Republicans and Democrats. The blame for the DCMA (and some organizations' abuses of it) doesn't fall on one particular political party.
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snipper_cr
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Re: BOOO

Im more curious what a new MPAA cheif has to do with Iraq!

Jason Levine
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Re: BOOO

said by snipper_cr:
Im more curious what a new MPAA cheif has to do with Iraq!

Were there Weapons of Mass File Sharing?

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said by Jason Levine:
I'll admit that I'm a Democrat and want to see Bush out of office, but how does "MPAA Gets a New Chief... lawsuit possibility is open" = "Bush's fault"?
Well, duh, everything to the libreal is Bush's fault.

I also fail to see how Bush relates to any of this.
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Jason Levine
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Re: BOOO

Did you read my post? That "I'm a Democrat and want to see Bush out of office" was a preface. I might not like Bush, but I don't blame him for all of our problems and certainly not for the current RIAA/DCMA situation. As far as political blame for that goes, it lands on both sides of the aisle. Both Republicans and Democrats voted for it and Clinton was the one who signed it into law. Yes, I liked Clinton as president, but he was far from perfect (obviously ) and the DCMA isn't exactly a shining moment in his career. Of course, the more immediate blame lands on the RIAA's shoulders. Bush really has little to no relevance to this situation.
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Re: BOOO

He was being sarcastic.

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Sorry, I was talking about Jsouth's theory of how this is Bush's fault, but I was using your quote. I should have explained myself more. But I was being sarcastic.
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I'm neither a Dem or Rep, but I completely agree with your statement. Both parties are responsible. After a politician gets elected, from President on down, they only have one job; to get re-elected. And what they need to get re-elected ironically is not votes, but campaign money. In the past, the person with the most campaign contributions usually wins. Until this changes, you'll always see a sign on the politician saying "for sale", or in the case of Orrin Hatch, "Sold".
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Because simply put, the whole campaign over the lawsuits started under Bush and the conservative Supreme Court writing a blank check to these companies... Thats how..And I tossed in a few side notes, because these companies say Americans cost them billions... But wow, so take all this money we spend fucking up the world and do something worthwhile with it... I mean if we are pissing away trillions of the taxpayers money, then why when the people piss on others does the consequence differ... Strange how when its a corporation, Bush rushes to their aid, but when the American economy SUCKS.. he still fucks you out of taxes and blows them like money grew on trees... See the link?
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Re: BOOO

Umm can you be any more ignorant.
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said by jc100:
Wow way to hammer the little guy. I mean with crimes like murder, rape, Bush's bullshit campaign on terrorism.. Sorry bush but you SUCK!! ( almost a trillion spent on "deposing Saddam, and wow 1000 dead americans.. Guess he'd never know the cost of life since he skipped out of duy"..

When you learn history, come back and rant on Bush. You will see how the Democrats have done far worse.
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said by jc100:
What a wonderful country when the republican party bows down to the corporate giants and fucks the rest of america out of privacy laws by giving them a blank check to do as necessary...
Your concerns compared to what millions of Iraqi’s had to suffer under Saddam look petty, really.
Andromeda451

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Hmmm.. so the 3000 Americans killed on 9/11 by the Al-Queda group don't count eh? Clinton's chicken shit response assured we'd get attacked again after the USS Cole. Billy went to the UK, oh, I forgot he didn't inhale during Vietnam.. Kerry went to VN for 4 mos and skipped out exercising his privilege to leave after 3 Purple Hearts. On injuries that real men would not have considered as being worthy. Then he and states in CONGRESSIONAL hearings that US Soldiers raped and burned and committed atrocities while in Vietnam. Where's his proof? Oh. I forgot he's a Liberal so we can trust his word...Your brand of extreme liberalism is so bereft of ethics and facts that you disdain anyone that doesn't see your point. Any thinking person would agree that you're full of yourself. You're so twisted that you conveniently get amnesia that Sen. Fritz Hollings engendered and drove the DMCA, He's a DEMOCRAT aka D for DISNEY. The Supremes, appointed by Billy are now in process to make us more vulnerable to attack and you're pulling a certain part of your anatomy. Get a clue, better yet buy one: Liberalism is a disease, extreme liberalism is deadly. The whole point of IRAQ is to make sure we never have to play a home game. I wouldn't piss on you if your head was on fire..

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Re: Hey, thanx for playin'

Oh yeah. Gotta love how far off the topic these threads can get. Also gotta love the rhetoric too. Clinton had no support to retaliate against that attack, especially from the GOP. Do you want to push that blame game even further? Bush was told about the threat and practically disregarded the warnings. Are you saying he's not to blame?

Also gotta love how you bashed Kerry in the same breath. Until you have been in a really hairy combat situation I don't think you have much right to say it's a cop out to try and leave after serving in a war zone. And lets not get started on what Bush did during his ... ahem... military service.

You're damn right the DMCA was brought up by Fritz. And yeah he's a democrat. So both parties play to their lobby dollars. Tell us something we don't know. It's not the political party that is the problem. It's the people in it. Both repubs and dems have some loyal and dedicated public servants in them. Both also have people who won't lift a finger until a special interest greases the wheels for them. So stop trying to over generalize and lay blame on an entire political theology because believe me. The one you're defending is nowhere near above reproach.

Nam Vet4
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???

So what
theft is theft.
I doubt they will stoop as low as the riaa has gone.
let them focus on camcorders in theaters, and leaks from previews.
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snipper_cr
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Re: ???

Isnt it great that a lot of screeners come directly from insiders at the MPAA? Sure you can go onto IRC and find telesyncs or cams but nothing like a screener a week after the movie came out!

KeepOnRockin
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Re: ???

Yeah, cam rips of movies really suck.

If I download a movie, its got to be of some quality.

snipper_cr
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Re: ???

Estoric, Centropy and Alpha team all the way!

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Good riddance to Valenti

This is the guy who compared the VCR to the Boston Strangler and predicted the death of the industry if it was allowed to go forward.

said by »cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm:

I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.

The VCR avalanche, I told you about that. Now, what about the VCR owners. Now, from here on out, Mr. Chairman, I am going to be speaking about a survey done by the Media Statistics Inc., which is a prestigious firm out of Silver Spring, Md. We, meaning the MPAA, did not commission this survey. We bought it after it was done when we heard about it. So, this was not a case -- we have commissioned a lot of things, but this is not one of them.

87 percent, 86.8 percent of all these owners erase or skip commercials. I have here, Mr. Chairman, if you are not aware of how this works -- this is Panasonic. This is a little remote control device that you use on machines. It has on here channel, rewind, stop, fast forward, pause, fast advance, slow, up, down, and visual search, either going left or right.

Now, what does that mean, Mr. Chairman? It means that when you are playing back a recording, which you made 2 days or whenever -- you are playing it back. You are sitting in your home in your easy chair and here comes the commercial and it is right in the middle of a Clint Eastwood film and you don't want to be interrupted. So, what do you do? You pop this beta scan and a 1-minute commercial disappears in 2 seconds.

Mr. RAILSBACK. Is that all bad?

Mr. VALENTI. If you are watching a Clint Eastwood film it is the most cheerful thing you can do. However, if you are an advertiser who has paid $280,000 a minute to advertise, he feels a very large pain in his stomach as well as in his checkbook because it destroys the reason for free television.

(Had to snip out some of his rambling. He doesn't seem to get to the point all that quickly, does he? )
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Piracy is Chump Change in the US

In Asia, parts of Europe, and S. America piracy runs rampant.

You can get a copy of your favorite films on DVD for a couple of dollars US off of many street corners.
In some countries there are stalls or shops set up that will burn a copy while U wait.

Granted broadband has made movies more available in the US, but with many titles available at the local Walmart for $10 it's hardly worth the bother except for the hobbyist.

The MPAA's biggest problem right now in the US is illegal copies of rentals which is why they pursued 321studios so aggressively.

The new dual layer DVDs really aren't an issue yet anywhere in the world. With the current price of blanks near what the retail copy of the DVD sell for, it makes no sense unless the prices drastically fall.

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Re: Piracy is Chump Change in the US

Good point, but there's not much they can do to stop it overseas. They have no legal foothold to stand on in other countries. All the RIAA/MPAA can do is hope that the, say, Chinese reps for Universal Studios decide to lobby the Chinese government to crackdown on piracy... fat chance.

Then again, the bulk of the RIAA/MPAA cash comes from the US sales, so it isn't worth catching crooks overseas.
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It's a good thing...

... the RIAA & MPAA file those lawsuits under the name John Doe and not John Q Public. Otherwise, I'd have a lot of explaining to do.

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Same "ORGAN"ization

Different HEAD. That pretty much sums up how I feel about the MPAA.

Actually I can't see this guy making it, as a repulican who looks like he made it through the 70's and 80's without a coke habit I can't see him fitting in with the studio culture very well.
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Thaler
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Great...More Stuff to Boycott

Ok, well with the RIAA lawsuits and quailty of music in the crapper, I've moved my music purchases into used-CDs only.

With MPAA, and especially gettin' a new chief, is there an option to getting your movies, without fattenin' up the MPAA? Seems like in order to get onto a DVD, you need to be a part of the big labels.

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I hate the MPAA

tO ME its the same thing as the RIAA, lawsuits are going to begin to pile-up its just a matter of what its going to start.
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