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1 edit | Fiber untested? So they do not use it for their RT's and Trunks? Wow..how do they get DSL out there then? Must be some 6 foot diameter cables buried we do not know about. This is too funny to read.
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 MarkyDPremium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
1 edit | upsetting.... but not the least bit surprising. The Bells are dragging their feet, hanging on to DSL as long as possible; everyone knows that Fiber will eventually replace all copper. SBC is just delaying the inevitable.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the server the video clip is posted on spits out the file at about 3KBps?  | |
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 |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Re: upsetting.... said by MarkyD:
but not the least bit surprising. The Bells are dragging their feet, hanging on to DSL as long as possible; everyone knows that Fiber will eventually replace all copper. SBC is just delaying the inevitable.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the server the video clip is posted on spits out the file at about 3KBps?
SBC has to be joking!
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|  CoronaIt's cool, I'm takin it backPremium
join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX
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| said by MarkyD:
but not the least bit surprising. The Bells are dragging their feet, hanging on to DSL as long as possible;...everyone knows that Fiber will eventually replace all copper...
Why shouldn't SBC hang on to DSL as long as possible? With current ADSL packages with SBC, you can get 6.0mbit down/608kbit up for $150 (not positive on the price).
IS there really a broad consumer demand for higher than 6Mbit in the next 18 months? Probably not. And of course everyone knows that fiber will replace copper eventually - just like autos replaced the horse drawn carriage.
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| | | | Re: upsetting.... said by Corona:
With current ADSL packages with SBC, you can get 6.0mbit down/608kbit up for $150 (not positive on the price).
Based on SBC's site, their current ASDL package with the highest bandwidth is their 1.5Mbps-3.0Mbps/384kbps Pro offering. | |
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| bac522
join:2003-08-04
Manchester, NH | Not at $10,000 per fiber mile to install. DSL will be with us for at least the next 15 to 25 years. | |
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|  edhodges
join:2003-02-20
Saint Charles, IL | Sorry folks, I had to turn on bandwidth throttles on that server. To many streams means I can't download drivers for my clients. | |
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| | Batavia??? Batavia info:
Population (year 2000): 23,866
Area: 9 sq miles
Nice try, SBC. Wire up Chicago 100%, then we're talking. | |
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|  tadmaz
join:2002-05-30
Mount Prospect, IL | Re: Batavia??? said by LordMalak:
Nice try, SBC. Wire up Chicago 100%, then we're talking.
Preach it brotha! I live in Mount Prospect, an incredibly dense residential area 10 miles from O'Hare and I am 19,000 ft from my CO. That's just messed up. | |
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| Re: Batavia??? I signed up with SBC Yahoo DSL *but only signed up for static IPs*. and when my loop keeps changing. SO you're 100' away may not be right. I know i started at 9,500' and now i'm up to 18,500' plus feet
Luckly i have SBC Business DSL at home for Static IPs so I get one rep to re work my order. | |
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|  ruscorpI Never Stop Posting For YouPremium
join:2002-08-29
Earth | said by LordMalak:
Batavia info:
Population (year 2000): 23,866
Area: 9 sq miles
Nice try, SBC. Wire up Chicago 100%, then we're talking.
Agreed. That's like Verizon wiring all of Jersey City and skipping New York City. They better do something around me, the CO's are too far and overloaded. | |
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 rstrandbCrazy like a foxPremium
join:2003-04-17
Albany, GA | It's July............... and it's still snowing in Illinois. Or at least they're getting a snow job. What a blatant attempt at suppressing competition.
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| | Really? said by »www.dailyherald.com/kane/main_st···=3817548 :
SBC's basic package guarantees a speed 1.5 megabytes, and costs $26.95 per month for 12 months, said Cynthia Maldonado, director of consumer marketing for SBC Midwest.
While I see the G-word used in this quote, I am somewhat reluctant in believing it. Even SBC's site advertises the $26.95 offering as 384Kbps-1.5Mbps, with the disclaimer indicating Actual downstream and upstream throughput speeds will vary. The downstream and upstream access speed or sync rate is measured between network interface device at customer's location and the DSL-equipped Central Office or Remote Terminal. The actual speed achieved will depend on several factors, including line conditions and loop length.
There is also the small issue of megabytes versus megabits.  | |
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | What! Fiber unproven technology??? are they for real?
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| | sbc doesnt know what they are talking about "won't use" speeds of 3Mbps or above, and that fiber is an "untested" technology that "is not there yet."
What a bunch of crap, all of south korea is using fiber i believe and so is japan. Japanese can get 'usen'co. fiber for whats equivalent to $50 bucks and they get 100mbit. | |
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| | So that's how you get action from SBC There's still parts of Mundelein, Libertyville, Vernon Hills that can't get DSL. Maybe we should hold some meetings about starting a muni system to get SBC off their rear ends since their progress so far has been anything but 'pronto'. | |
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 icp1Premium
join:2000-10-13
Saint Louis, MO | 75% Last I saw the numbers around 75% of SBC customers were able to get broadband of some sort. From all these comments it sounds like it is 90% in most regions and 50% in Ameritech region  | |
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 cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL | batavia While I can sympathise with all of the other burb replies of service in more populated areas like Chicago and Mount Prospect, I believe the only reason it is being promised to a city like Batavia is that it is working on some real competition for the customers. SBC is scared to death that this might actually work and give everyone a choice. I don't see an existing consumer need for those types of speed with current uses of DSL, but this project is intended to have TV, phone, and internet services as part of the package. I think you could gobble up a good portion of that bandwidth with all of those services running. Again, this decision is not based on how many paying customers they might get (which is the normal claim from SBC) but on the chance of the city voting this project into reality. | |
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cdrworm
join:2002-08-09
San Diego, CA | Cable companies will just grab more share "SBC officials suggest that most users "won't use" speeds of 3Mbps or above, and that fiber is an "untested" technology that "is not there yet." If SBC continues to think this way, Cable companies will just grab more share.
Cable companies will be able to advertise:
"We are 1000x faster than DSL. Full pages and video load in a split second." Ive tested file transfers over my LAN from one pc to the next. I can download files at 12mbps. I can use that kind of connectivity. hehe. and thats with 700 mhz server.
Every time I download at 300kbit per a tenth of a second Im definitely downloading at 3Mbps.
People we should be moving forward here. Even other countries are passing us by.
Perhaps they are more competitive (against US?)
An off-topic note:
Look at Los Angeles for instance, there merchandising industry is 10 years ahead of the rest of the country because of very strong competition and higher population. There's definitely more competition in that specific market with lower prices and higher profitiblity. | |
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 misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL | Mailing address. What cracked me up was when the SBC people were scrambling around trying to provide the mailing address to the guy who asked why such address is so hard to dig out.
This video made my day at work.
The main SBC guy looked like he was going to poop in his pants.
With SBC deploying DSL before the November elections, folks in Batavia may become less interested in muni broadband, I am afraid.
Hope not.
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