FDiskO.O? join:2003-08-18 Israel 2 edits
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FDisk
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2004-Jul-12 2:59 pm
All I got to say.All those copy protections are worth.... (look below).
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Re: All I got to say.LOL They just don't get it do they ? Now they'll lose honest customers just because they tried to prevent people like me from playing their games... | |
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Re: All I got to say.There is no reason to be pissed off because people like me create such huge problems for honest people like you How about you join us ? | |
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Re: All I got to say."How about you join us ?" Been a member for 5 years now. | |
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Re: All I got to say.said by Plldwnyrpnts: "How about you join us ?"
Been a member for 5 years now.
Nice to hear that! | |
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to Anon
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KrK
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2004-Jul-12 10:57 pm
Re: All I got to say.What's really pathetic is anyone attempting to bypass or disable StarForce protection *EVEN ON GAMES THEY BOUGHT* is in violation of the D.M.C.A. and could be imprisoned/fined or sued for their circumvention efforts....
... especially the people who "crack" or develop the bypass and then explain it/distribute it to others.
I knew the day would come when people would begin to realize that the people that make these cracks are actually doing us a valuable service and aren't "terrorists". | |
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Re: All I got to say.said by KrK: What's really pathetic is anyone attempting to bypass or disable StarForce protection *EVEN ON GAMES THEY BOUGHT* is in violation of the D.M.C.A. and could be imprisoned/fined or sued for their circumvention efforts....
... especially the people who "crack" or develop the bypass and then explain it/distribute it to others.
I knew the day would come when people would begin to realize that the people that make these cracks are actually doing us a valuable service and aren't "terrorists".
What it is doing is a violation of the law too Also a Virus WITER can say the same thing about removing his Virus What it is doing is a violation of the law too aslo a | |
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to KrK
said by KrK: What's really pathetic is anyone attempting to bypass or disable StarForce protection *EVEN ON GAMES THEY BOUGHT* is in violation of the D.M.C.A. and could be imprisoned/fined or sued for their circumvention efforts....
... especially the people who "crack" or develop the bypass and then explain it/distribute it to others.
I knew the day would come when people would begin to realize that the people that make these cracks are actually doing us a valuable service and aren't "terrorists".
There may some IT guy that thinks that it is spyware, keyloger or a Virus and takes it off. | |
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| | click_310Eat my shorts join:2002-12-06 Savannah, GA |
to Anonymous88
Re: All I got to say. Now they'll lose honest customers just because they tried to prevent people like me from playing their games... A lot of people buy games because they don't know how or where to get them for free. I don't condone piracy but people who use no-cd cracks for games that they buy because of this stupid copy protaction system will stop buying games, as soon as they discover that they can get teh same game for $0.00 ! | |
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Re: All I got to say.Well to be honest I have purchased a copy of Call Of Duty after playing a demo only. I do purchase games that I like, but I prefer to try it out illegally (full version).
I just downloaded Ground Control 2 and Deus EX IW and they suck!
Removed both within an hour... | |
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| | sivranVive Vivaldi Premium Member join:2003-09-15 Irving, TX |
to Anonymous88
said by Anonymous88: LOL
They just don't get it do they ?
Now they'll lose honest customers just because they tried to prevent people like me from playing their games...
The developers of FarCry lost me as a customer when I saw the warning label on the box. Don't they realize that the more invasive they make the copy protection, the more they encourage piracy? Ever notice how older companies, such as LucasArts and Sierra, seem to understand this (check out Jedi Knight 2. No protection at all. I bought it. AVP2, serial needed only for Internet play. I bought it.), while newer ones don't? | |
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Kim JongMo Dollar Plz Premium Member join:2002-09-01 North Korea |
Kim Jong
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2004-Jul-12 3:02 pm
muahah'though several in the "scene" inform us it's expected this week' people in the 'scene' don't talk about 'scene'. | |
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Dream KillerGraveyard Shift Premium Member join:2002-08-09 Forest Hills, NY |
BSThat kind of "protection" should be illegal. It behaves the same way as a virus does. It's just not beneficial to user or vendor. | |
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Wejo
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2004-Jul-12 3:08 pm
Re: BSI bet we can find some lawyers ready to sue the hell out of them ! | |
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dadkinsCan you do Blu? MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA |
LOL!Doesn't Alcohol 120% bypass it? | |
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Re: LOL!i use alchole120% to emulate my kids games only about half the games work when playing off a virtual cd rom. I have droped over 500$ in reader rabbit and jump start cd's for my 3 year old son and 5 year old daughter I think i have a right to make a backup of the cd or play the game without using the cd. Who in their right mind would want to let a 5 year old handel cd worth 75$
I wish there was no cd hacks for kids games | |
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HiVolt Premium Member join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON |
HiVolt
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2004-Jul-12 3:08 pm
WTF?Isn't it friggin illegal to deliberately cause malfunction of someone's computer, even if the supposedly pirated software is removed? | |
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KeepOnRockinMusic Lover Forever Premium Member join:2002-11-08 Beaverton, OR |
Yawn If it isn't another copy-protection scheme. It will miserably fail just like all the others have. The good software release groups will have cracked this before they release their "warez" onto the internet.
This is just another way to keep the honest people honest. It does nothing to deter people who want still want to pirate the "protected" software. They will find a way.
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| HardcoreThe Sausage King Premium Member join:2002-08-23 Albany, GA |
Hardcore
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2004-Jul-12 3:15 pm
Re: YawnIt reminds me of the hell I went through with Warcraft III and it's patch that surreptiously installed SafeDisc with it...and ruined it. I ended up being on the phone with Blizzard and email tagging them until they released a patch that corrected the problem. | |
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B04
Premium Member
2004-Jul-12 3:13 pm
Talk With Your Wallets, FolksWhat crap. Take your money elsewhere -- it got Intuit's attention in a hurry when TurboTax's crazy boot sector hijacking copy protection got publicized and people started switching. I thought we got over this kind of nonsense after the days when Lotus required a run-time floppy. Good thing I don't play games. What a boatload of crud you people put up with. If there were a way to take a chunk of flesh before every game play and verify your DNA, these companies would do it -- and a lot of sheeplike users would comply! (No offense, sheepexplode .) -- B | |
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Re: Talk With Your Wallets, FolksThen just don't buy any games! If you want to play some games you can always download, besides there is a huge community of cracked servers online. Spend your money on something worth it Oh and here is a link to removal tool » www.jeffjones.org/files/ ··· lean.zip | |
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Re: Talk With Your Wallets, FolksFrom GG forum
List of games
AceSaga N/A ? N/A StarForce
American Conquest N/A CDV Software Russia StarForce 3
Anito: Defend A Land Enraged N/A Anino Entertainment Asia StarForce 1 Anstoss 4 N/A ? Germany StarForce 3
Army Men N/A 3DO Russia StarForce
Bandits: Phoenix Rising N/A Tri Synergy N/A StarForce 3.03.036.001
Breed 1.0 CDV US StarForce 3.3.33.06
Breed N/A CDV France StarForce 3.3.33.08
Broken Sword 3: The Sleeping Dragon N/A
Revolution US StarForce
Chrome N/A Strategy First Russia StarForce 3
Codename: Outbreak N/A Virgin Interactive Russia StarForce 1
Cossacks: Back To War N/A CDV Software Russia StarForce 1
Cossacks: European Wars N/A GSC Russia StarForce 3
Curse: The Eye of Isis N/A Dreamcatcher Interactive N/A StarForce 3
Cycling Manager 3 N/A GMX Media N/A StarForce 3
Dead to Rights N/A Hip Interactive N/A StarForce 3
Demonic Speedway N/A ? Poland StarForce 3
Desert Rats vs. Afrika Corps 1.0 Monte Cristo France StarForce 3.3.31.19
DTM Race Driver 2 N/A Codemasters N/A StarForce 3.3.35.02
Emergency Fire Response N/A Dreamcatcher Interactive N/A StarForce 3
Enigma: Rising Tide N/A Tesseraction Games N/A StarForce 3
Etherlords N/A Fishtank Interactive Russia StarForce 1
Etherlords II N/A Strategy First N/A StarForce 3.03.031.021
Fire Chief N/A Strategy First N/A StarForce 3
Fire Department N/A Monte Cristo N/A StarForce 3
Gangland N/A Whiptail Interactive N/A StarForce 3.03.031.021
Heroes of Might & Magic IV: The Gathering Storm N/A 3DO Russia StarForce
Horse Race Manager N/A Cyanide N/A StarForce 3
Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter N/A Interplay UK StarForce 3
IL-2 Sturmovik N/A Ubi Soft Russia StarForce 1
Kicker Manager 2004 N/A Deep Silver N/A StarForce 3.03.036.001
Kill Switch 1.0 Namco France StarForce 3.3.33.08
Korea: Forgotten Conflict N/A CENEGA N/A StarForce 3
Magna Carta N/A Korea N/A StarForce 1
Magnamedia N/A Russia N/A StarForce 3
Mercedes-Benz World Racing N/A TDK Mediactive Spain StarForce 3
Might & Magic IX: Writ of Fate N/A 3DO Russia StarForce
Narsillion N/A ? Russia StarForce 1
Obscure N/A Hydravision Entertainment N/A StarForce 3.3.36.01
Pax Romana N/A Dreamcatcher Interactive N/A StarForce 3
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time N/A Ubisoft Russia StarForce 3
Pro Rugby Manager N/A Digital Jesters N/A StarForce 3.3.33.08
Rally Championship Xtreme N/A Warthog Entertainment Software N/A StarForce
Rendezvous 3 N/A ? Russia StarForce
Restaurant Empire N/A Enlight Software N/A StarForce
Revolution N/A Activision Value Publishing N/A StarForce
Runaway: A Road Adventure N/A Tri Synergy N/A StarForce 3
Seventh Seal: The Resurrection of the Dark Lord N/A ? Asia StarForce 2
Shtyrlits 3: USSR Agent N/A ? Russia StarForce 1
Siege of Avalon N/A Digital Tome Russia StarForce 1
Silent Storm N/A Nival N/A StarForce 3
Silkolene Honda Motocross GP N/A Midas Interactive Entertainment N/A StarForce 3
Sniper N/A ? N/A StarForce 3
Soldiers: Heroes of World War II 1.05.1 Codemasters N/A StarForce 3.03.036.001
Tennis Masters Series: Battleground of Champions N/A Microids Asia StarForce
Tennis Masters Series: Battleground of Champions 1.1 Microids Czech StarForce 3
The Heroes of Three Kingdoms N/A N/A Asia StarForce
The I Of The Dragon N/A Primal Software Russia StarForce 3
The Westerner N/A Focus Home Interactive France StarForce 3.3.31.21
TOCA Race Driver 2 1.0 Codemasters N/A StarForce 3.3.35.02
TOCA Race Driver 2 1.1 Codemasters N/A StarForce 3.3.36.01
TOCA Race Driver 2 1.2 Codemasters N/A StarForce 3.3.36.01
Track Mania N/A Nadeo N/A StarForce 3.03.035.004
Trackmania N/A Nadeo N/A StarForce 3
UFO: Aftermath 1.00 CENEGA Spain StarForce 3
V8 Supercars 2 N/A Codemasters Australia StarForce 3.3.35.02
Wildlife Park N/A Encore, Inc N/A StarForce 3
World War II: Frontline Command 1.0.0.0 Strategy First N/A StarForce
World War II: Frontline Command N/A Strategy First N/A StarForce 3
X2: The Threat N/A Enlight Software N/A StarForce 3.3.30.5
Xuan-Yuan Sword 4 N/A ? ASIA StarForce 2
Also they apparently include this protection with the demos of some of these games ???
Why ? | |
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Re: Talk With Your Wallets, FolksI thought the decision to include it with some demos was particularly interesting.....
Make demo users beta testers? | |
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| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium Member join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK |
to Anonymous88
I hope people who buy this software all send nastygrams to the companies about how annoyed they are...
Also, I'd put in lots of tech support help requests for all the side-effects the copy protection has too. | |
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exocet_cmWriting Premium Member join:2003-03-23 Brooklyn, NY |
Action[whisper]...lawsuit...[/whisper] | |
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David Premium Member join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL |
David
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2004-Jul-12 3:51 pm
This is one reason whyI have a dual boot computer...
I can just simply reinstall windows 98SE within 24 hours and it does not bother me at all.
I don't want the games garbage tainting my powerhouse OS on the other boot partition.. | |
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Re: This is one reason whyCareful, using separate partitions doesn't offer total protection either. Protection schemes like Macrovision's SafeCast/C-Dilla also write to space in the first track of your hard disk, which is usually used to hold your master boot record and sometimes boot loaders or drivers. Intuit used SafeCast for Turbo Tax 2002. | |
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Re: This is one reason whyIntuit is still saying sorry to users for that crap. They were quick to realize that people buy their program to do more than just their own taxes and that sometimes users need to use it on diff comps. I am sure Intuits competitors loved the year 2002 version. | |
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TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY |
Poop for BrainsHow do these idiots expect make any money, thank God I am not a gamer I gave up with Commander Keen | |
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Re: Poop for BrainsI liked the Keen series to, enjoyed the Leisure Suit Harry series, as well | |
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20 years of trying...Anyone who had a Commodore 64 back in the day will remember that disks were coded with errors deliberately to foil some copying software. The drawback to that was that the 1541 disk drive which most of us had back then would then literally bang it's read head against itself. Do that enough times, and it would either make the head go out of alignment or become disable altogether. This scheme sort of reminds me of that. | |
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skelet0r Premium Member join:2004-04-26 Florence, AL |
skelet0r
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2004-Jul-12 5:19 pm
Simple as thisIt is really as simple as this. I am 28 now and have been playing games since the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64, so I pretty much grew up on games. I begged for 2 years before I could get a NES, and it had pretty much spent every free cent I had on video game systems and games. Around 6 years ago I got my first PC after seeing a friend playing Unreal Tournament, and changed my major three times to learn more about computers. One of the main reasons, besides UT and porn, that I got a PC was because I spent alot of time with my friend who taught me the fine art of file-sharing. Basically I have spent around 10,000 dollars for systems and games that lose thier value exponentially after the next better system comes out. They show no respect for gamers anyway, charging insane prices for games and new systems when they hit the market, only to drop the price to $99 after the system bombs or they decide to make a new system. The way I look at it, they owe me, so screw them. Right now I modded my Xbox with over 100 games on the HD and have over 75 PC games that I acquired. I plan to only pay the very minimal on any system or game that I buy from now on out, and although I could, thoretically, never pay for a game again, I will if the game is actually worth the money. | |
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Paul_CJ
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2004-Jul-12 6:41 pm
Now this is interestingUsers also aren't alerted to the driver installation by the end-user license agreement present in most of the games that employ the protection technology
Now this is interesting, a company could be sued for not informing the costumers about this software (being installed on this computers) in their licensing agreement. | |
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Combat ChuckToo Many Cannibals Premium Member join:2001-11-29 Verona, PA 1 edit |
I'm surprised....people are just now figuring this out? Star Force has been around and running poorly for a while now.
I find it funny that most of the games that use SF are steaming piles of crap that aren't worth the price of the plastic and foil they're distributed on.
BTW, don't consider that list all inclusive, there are others. | |
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Illegal...Starforce is illegal....as illegal as a virus would be. | |
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Gandalf1315Freelance Philosopher join:2001-05-23 Indianapolis, IN |
catchy titleI quit PC gaming about a year ago. I probably bought a $1000 a year worth of PC games for 4 or 5 years in a row. All my gaming is with consoles now. PC gaming just became too much of a hassle. I even had a dedicated gaming PC. It has now became my dedicated Linux PC. | |
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Re: catchy titleCAN YOU SAY LINUX:) AND CROSSOVER:D | |
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Now I know betterI used to think that buying a game or app would be best, as long as your pc met the system requirements. But now that I've heard this, I'm thinking that pirated software could be better than the retail copies. | |
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SFisEVIL
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2004-Jul-13 12:37 pm
Re: Now I know betterPirated software has been better since they started putting CD checks on games. None of them even remotely qualify as proper CDs, causing lots of older CD-Rom drives to give up. My copy of HOMM III needs to be ejected and re-inserted about 10 times in order for it to not just hang at the splash screen because of SecuROM. | |
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yes (sadly?) this is the case for many softwares. not just pc games. but of course the annoyance is worst with pc games, because of the damn cd checks! i always download a no cd patch for the games i buy, they always run better and smoother afterwards. and you dont have to listen to the damn cd drive spinning sound! (i hate that noise lol) | |
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different experienceI play some games protected with this Starfuck on it. I don like it. But I never had any such troubles. Though my friends here. Neither a slow down nor a crash. Once, with a new external USB drive, I had a problem. But I got both a driver update and the removal tool, from their helpdesk. Btw, the removal tool comes from the StarForce people, and not from a "user". Maybe some one wants to make money with a stolen software, here. I don like protection, but I have learned to live with it. Is is simply worldwide fact. So why waste time arguing. | |
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Talk with your Wallet (- I like that phrase)I hope the day dont come where i pop in a bought music cd and load up nasty driver viruses.
Do you think they are planing this with other software? | |
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Freshie
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2004-Jul-14 12:24 pm
Re: Talk with your Wallet (- I like that phrase)Check out the news of the Beastie Boys new album, or Velvet Revolver. These CD's install anti-copy software when you put it in your drive... | |
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CrazyPunk
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2004-Jul-16 10:27 am
Re: Talk with your Wallet (- I like that phrase)I was gonna buy Soldiers heroes of ww2 , but when im reading about this Starforce i dunno....... It has been said before on this forum.... but when i buy a game, and paid like 40 Euro's/Dollar for it, i want to make a copy of it. I wont be the first time to me that a Original Cd will be damaged (im a bit chaotic some times with my cd's). Ive got no problem supporting a developer by buying there game , if the game is good.....but this .... I understand if u made a game, and u wanna portect it , but this is bull. If it was only that u cant copy the cd (for backup!!!) i would be fine by me , But crewing up ure system Thats a no go for me!!!! | |
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