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Juice Boosted Scam
Pyramid Scam roars on
by Karl Bode 02:38PM Monday Aug 09 2004
As we mentioned last week, a scam outfit is taking the bold claims of dial-up compression over the line, promising users not only free "broadband", but also payment if users receive spam, a 404 error, or virus once their phantom product is installed. As ongoing discussion in our our forums indicates, the scammers have ripped off their site design from a legit dial-up compression service dubbed OnSPeed. While dial-up compression providers often skirt legal guidelines (and occasionally cross them), they're usually bright enough to avoid outright fraud. One user points us to lengthy discussion over at the Scam.com forums as well. It's frightening that there's any debate over the legitimacy of the operation's ridiculous claims.

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JohnQPublic6
Premium
join:2002-03-22
Xanadu

Once again...

Say what you want about all of the false promises by the marketing department, but you have to give them credit for getting the product and domain name right. Follow along:

Juice: 6. Slang. Funds; money.

Boost[ed]: 5. Slang. To steal or rob, especially by shoplifting or pickpocketing.

Any questions?

Source: Dictionary.com
--
"[Our enemies] never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." G.W. Bush (8/05/2004)

insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

Re: Once again...

said by JohnQPublic6:
Say what you want about all of the false promises by the marketing department, but you have to give them credit for getting the product and domain name right. Follow along:

Juice: 6. Slang. Funds; money.

Boost[ed]: 5. Slang. To steal or rob, especially by shoplifting or pickpocketing.

Any questions?

Source: Dictionary.com

Hilarious, thank you for that insight.

JADE1

@callplus.net.nz
DOSE ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE JUICE BOOSTED SITE, DOSE ANYONE REALLY NO WHAT IS GOING ON, PRITTY SHALLOW TO JUMP TO THE DEEP END WITHOUT FULL PROOF, IF YOU HAVE ANY PLEASE POST IT, SICK OF READYING RUBBISH FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA
raythompsontn

join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN

Because................

on the web a sucker is born every second.
B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28

The Original Juice Scam


Sorry, couldn't help it. After all, paying this much attention to the new scammers is probably unwarranted at this time?

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function

DaSneaky1D
what's up
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou

Re: The Original Juice Scam

No, not unwarranted. Many people use search engines and posts like these will help them find info on frauds like this.
--
] :: my trivial ramblings :: [
B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28

Re: The Original Juice Scam


Fair enough, sir!

-- B

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39
quote:
Many people use search engines and posts like these will help them find info on frauds like this.
My thoughts exactly.
B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28

Re: The Original Juice Scam


Yes, fine, I see the point now, but if that's the goal shouldn't you include the dreaded name "JuiceBoosted" or "JuiceBoosted.com" somewhere in the body of the article, rather than merely in a link?

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

Re: The Original Juice Scam

Just "juice" and "scam" should be enough.

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=U···ice+scam

Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX

Re: The Original Juice Scam

And the third link in Google points back to BBR's original
article on the juiceboosted scam. But less net savvy
surfers are probably going to buy this one thinking its
for real.
B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
said by Karl Bode:
Just "juice" and "scam" should be enough.

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=U···ice+scam

Actually, Karl, you're proving my point. First, nobody who's checking it out will immediately think to use the search term "scam" -- rather they'll just type the product name.

Further, Google lists your older article highly for »www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&···G=Search precisely because you usd "boost" in the text. Note how DSLR does NOT show up on the first page of Google hits fr "juice boostED" at »www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&···G=Search

So my humble suggestion (to incorporate at least "boost" in the text) still stands.

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

Re: The Original Juice Scam

Actually, I would type "scam" and "Juice" if I was interested in seeing if Juice was a scam, but I see your point and will add boost to the subtitle....
joebear29

join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL

Re: The Original Juice Scam

I also am in the habit of googling the name of something followed by scam when checking something out. I'm sure others do as well.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

1 recommendation


Hat and bloody-gloves ISP provider
Juice Scam? I thought that was the nickname for O.J. Simpson's criminal trial!
joebear29

join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL

1 recommendation

Maybe they are looking for bank info

My theory as to what this might be:

When you sign up to be an affiliate, they ask how you would like to be paid. The last two options are safe (paypal and mail) but the first is direct deposit and wants bank account details. This is where they are clever. Anyone with a clue knows never to give out bank information, so most won't, but there are bound to be some fools who give complete bank information to get their direct deposit. If Juice gets 100,000 subscribers (hypothetical) and 5% choose direct deposit, that is 5,000 bank accounts. Because bank info is not required, it doesn't leap out as the reason for the company.

Just my theory, I'm sure the true purpose will be revealed in time.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

1 recommendation

LOL!

This sounds like what Amway/Quixstar would be like if they were a broadband ISP
joebear29

join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL

Re: LOL!

Funny but true.
I take exception to your comments about Quixtar. Never has been a scam. Income is made by people buying product. Most of those who I know who earn the big money work hard at it. Sorry about that.
This Juice thing does have some legitimate concerns. They say they don't go for spam, but how do they expect people to market it? You can't market Quixtar by spamming people. If you are caught, you WILL lose your registration. And your downline will do what you do. They are good learners.

Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3

BBR Supporting Juice! Thanks Google!

Well, thought I might bring this to someone's attention in this thread...but on the "ads by Google" section, there are offerings now FOR this exact Juice service.

Does BBR have any control over what ads Google sends them? I mean...it's kinda wierd to have a scam ad IN the same anti-scam thread!

Sefirato
Turambar, Master of Fate
Premium
join:2002-05-08
Anchorage, AK

Re: BBR Supporting Juice! Thanks Google!

Be like me, get the Premium account with BBR - it's only $10 in tool points and you'll never have to see ads ever again.

Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA
kudos:1

Re: BBR Supporting Juice! Thanks Google!

OR just ad Google ad servers to your HOSTS file

My point is I never purchased something to get rid of the ads and never will. Nobody is going to make me do it.

On the other hand if a service/product/subscription is worth the money I will pay.

BBR sure is
--
"Stealing" software since 2002

Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX

Google for "juiceboosted scam" and you'll find

...another forum thread, this at Scam.com, that is talking
about this as an MLM/Pyramid scam:

»www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=26···=1&pp=10

And within that thread there appear to be juiceboosted
affiliates (or others trying to defend them).
--
"Kayura or Badamon, whichever you are, you should know that I will never give up this battle. By the will of the Ancient, I shall succeed!" - Shuten (Anubis) from the Ronin Warriors.

Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA
kudos:1

1 recommendation

Idiots

Affiliates are bitches.
michaelgc1

join:2004-08-28
Garden City, KS

Re: Idiots

said by Anonymous:
Affiliates are bitches.

EXCUSE me? I just happened upon this forum and thread tonight (actually, I got an email from another webmaster letting me know it is here) and have enjoyed the information I have found here.

But I must take offense at this blatantly generalized mis-categorization of an ethical and hard-wroking group of Internet marketers who are 'affiliates'. Granted, I understand you intend this remark to be directed specifically toward JUICE affiliates, but you did not so state. There are a LOT of legitimate companies out there willing to pay for referring customers to them and which also pay and pay on time.

Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA
kudos:1

Re: Idiots

No actually I did generalize it. I hate marketing in any form, also I hate people that are spreading it and yes those people include affiliates of any kind.

There are so many sites online that exist because people are naive or stupid and help spammers, scammers and 'legit' marketing people (they are all the same to me).

Sites like www.freeipods.com, juice thing etc.
--
"Stealing" software since 2002

Adf

@219.95.x.x

go catcha them igf they...

go catch them if you think they doing scam, report to the police, why mumbling here for nothing, make people sick of reading your comment, though, i mean get a life or a job or something, stop show off instead do it right quitely are more better.

marcibabes

@cable.ubr01.wake.blu

Re: go catcha them igf they...

Because the police won't do squat fool... don't ya think that many peeps have brought legalities into stuff like this in the past?? It's very rare it gets anywhere... the authorities aren't interested as it costs them far too much to do anything about it. The only thing people can do is raise the general public's awareness of such scams. Hence the need for threads such as this. Engage yer brain...

Some folks just shouldn't be allowed on the net... they're a danger to themselves and others


Darm

@172.25.x.x

Damn Arseholes

I'm glad i did search juice boosted, and happend upon this site. Scamming arse holes.
DoDoHead6

join:2004-08-19
Baltimore, MD

How Do You Know...Paid

how do you all know that juiceboost affiliates don't get paid??? has anyone got screwed real badly or not paid????

jasoncanvin

@ntl.com

WOW

Well thanks for the heads up chaps, i was really thinking wow, looked through all the faq's and then saw the bank account details.....Yep something wrong here. so checked the web for juice scam, and hey presto, just as i thought, but still very convincing at the time, nice site, proffesionally done as well.

Just goes to show, nothing is free on the net,you cant make money from get rich quick schemes, so much bullshit on the net and its getting worse.

Rant over, ill get me coat!!!

Cup of tea actually im from england LOL!!

purplespirit

@28.xx.203.touchtelin

Juice Boosted... a scam through spam??

how in the world...
can they compress data so much so that a petty 33 kbps modem will be faster than dsl ,Cable????

and if its possible....how can it be discovered after so many years and why were dsl cable invented when a chance of fast transfers was possible through the old modems?

Sm1 less technically literate wants to defy the laws of modern physics !!!

Affiliates cannot earn money throuh spam...bt what if someone in their downline does????In someway these ppl are encouraging spam in the lure of offering money!
zeyyxe

join:2004-08-19
Terre Haute, IN

Excuse me, but even God doesnt offer such a deal..

I am new to this site, but would think many of the Internet wizards and Telecommunications guru's here, have a pretty good handle on when they see a "Turd Merchant".

Turd Merchants come in many flavors. There are Politicians, Televanglists, Snake Oil Doctors, and now Internet Service Providers.

Yes, we all would like to believe we are "worthy" and deserve getting something for nothing. Remember, even God requires something for your salvation. The Devil is always in the details.

In my humble opinion, I have spent too much time thinking about nonsense, that I instead, could have spent time thinking about something constructive.
-***-
fusioncat

join:2003-03-07
singapore

Re: Excuse me, but even God doesnt offer such a deal..

Pardon me... hope this answers... in a subtle way...

Do not believe just because ...

…But, whenever you realize by yourselves that these are unwholesome, harmful or are condemned by wise people, and whoever fully undertake or observe them, they will lead to uselessness or suffering, you should abandon them.

…But whenever you realize by yourselves that these are wholesome, not harmful or are admired by wise people, and whoever fully undertake or observe them, they will lead to usefulness or happiness, you should undertake them. -Kalama Sutta

Wishing u happiness
---------------
Pardon me... if I do offend, I would rather attribute to my ignorance & defilement than to a believed perfect creator who creates me with these attributes, functions, intentions & conditions to & yet knowing it allow it & yet conditional with punishment...
whitelite

join:2004-08-20

So you won,t kick yourself later if it's legit

try this: »www.freewebs.com/boosted-juice ;)

gekka54

@attbi.com

This isn't that hard...

Let all of us that have the slightest knowledge of data tranmsission and the capabilities our hardware, dwell on this for just a brief second.......... what they offer in terms of bandwidth is physically impossible! Do some quick research and you won't have anymore questions about wether or not these people are scammers!

iram

@ntl.com

Re: This isn't that hard...

hiya i heard bout all this juice scam and i would like to know wether it will affect ppl with broadband...because my internet connection is not through a phone line its ntl broadband. so say if i do download dis software wot risks will i b entering into? can some one please reply bk 2 dis.
TANX

ATTENTION

@194.137.x.x

I hate these damn threads

This is really pointless. Why would anyone sign up to be an affiliate to something that does not yet exist???

I've put my name down for the Juice Boosted free access using a SPAM e-mail account (just to see what it really is), also I entered my e-mail at and internet cafe so they didn't record my ip address. So, I'll see what happens.

Whatever happens there is NO WAY I would enter into an affiliate scheme of something like this.

Convert to Apple!

anyonehome

@159.104.x.x

Has anyone considered...........

that this is just an email collection scam? they purport to be signing up millions of people who all freely give their email address.

Dieel

@aol.com

FFS

I agree with anyonehome


Pendra

@161.xx.220.lns02-way

Open Eyes

First of all I did a search using google with both the words 'juice' and 'scam' infact my search was 'juice scam'and this was the first site i come upon. so B ... sit down and shut up!

anyway thanks guys, i knew it was too good to be true and in a way i'm kinda pissed. 4x faster broadband with no bills and charges would have been fantasic but alas it is not to be

damn!

JUice boost arseholes!