Swimming Upstream - RBOCs start to deliver upstream speeds

Swimming Upstream
RBOCs start to deliver upstream speeds
(old news - 03:37PM Tuesday Aug 10 2004)
tags: bandwidth · telco

Telephony On-line notes that with SBC's decision to increase upstream speeds (see forum discussion), the RBOCs have largely buried the paltry 128kbps upstream speeds of recent memory. Verizon and BellSouth are pushing toward 384kbps with their standard packages, and Qwest is on track to take upstream speeds closer to 1Mbps. As the article notes, the popularity of digital photography, on-line gaming, and VoIP services are largely responsible for the shift.

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sunny8294 Shqipe join:2001-03-15 Localhost ;)	Great! 1 Mbps upload is great and no caps please -- .:: Sunny ::.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 15:04:02 ·

EnzonE join:2000-03-23 Indiana, PA	Re: Great! Geez I really need to live closer to the CO, lol!
	permalink · 2004-08-10 17:49:53 ·

ropeguru Premium join:2001-01-25 Grafton, WV clubs: ·VOIPo	Great!!! How about extending your infrastructure a little more and get RT's to those of us that are right on the border distance wise. It is getting VERY old that users who already have DSL are just getting higher speeds and those of us that have nothing still remain with nothing. How about pushing out to some additional users and stop always upgrading current users. Screw the RBOC's.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 15:06:05 ·

Aggie Dan
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Re: Great!!!

It's about retention. Once you lose a customer it is REALLY hard to get them back. No one wants to hassle with changing their service and then changing it back. Or at least very few do.

That's why cable companies and RBOCs are fighting to hold on to their existing customers first with speed upgrades. It is cheaper to upgrade an area speedwise than it is to build a new area. And you can be sure of how much of a return on investment you will have by reducing churn in that wire center.

Although, I can attest to the fact that expansions are still being done. Until a few months ago the only broadband option available to me was Comcast. Now that my local telco has seen fit to give my neighbourhood DSL I've jumped off the Comcast service and gone to SBC.
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permalink · 2004-08-10 15:18:32 · Print ·

ropeguru Premium join:2001-01-25 Grafton, WV clubs: ·VOIPo	I agree, but the issue I am seeing is that they are upgrading all that currently have access and those that are far out and leaving all of us that are border line with no options. I know for a fact that I can get a loop length as low as 15,900 feet is not less. But because they want to play games with everyone they refuse to give me a connection.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 16:01:57 ·

SquareSlinky Premium join:2004-05-25 Tampa, FL ·Verizon FIOS ·ViaTalk	No offense to those that can't get high speed where they live. I am sure it is very frustrating. I would probably complain as much as all of you do as well. Speaking for myself, I would move. It is that important to me. I believe my wife would agree.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 16:06:48 ·

ropeguru
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·VOIPo

It is to me too. And believe me I have been looking at moving to a new location. But when you are in a situation where you own two homes, in two different states, both need work in order to be able to sell and you have no vacation time to take to fix them up to sell them and only one income, it is kind of hard to just pick up and move.

I am in an area where the only high speed connection for internet is cable. And there are two things with cable that do not work for me. Low upload speeds and not able to run servers. The first I could live with at a 384k speed. The second I cannot. Plus I need the static IP.

permalink · 2004-08-10 16:19:11 · Print ·

zoom314 Superman Premium join:2001-04-30 Yermo, CA	Yeah and Verizon is doing something about It, Cable only has one thing to fear, Ma Bell coming to the Outskirts near You someday, offering DSL. Maybe SBC is taking a hint from Verizon. -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3 Windows XP Pro SP2 v.2158 -- Proud to be a member of Team Athlonmb.com! Frogs rule!
	permalink · 2004-08-10 21:03:01 ·

ropeguru Premium join:2001-01-25 Grafton, WV clubs:	I will probably be dead by the time they decide to deploy here.
	permalink · 2004-08-11 09:24:59 ·

AthlGrond Premium,MVM join:2002-04-25 Aurora, CO ·Comcast	Kicking Cable Where It Hurts I see this as a move that cable internet providers are unlikely to be able to match. (Yes that is in general, I know OOL does 1Mbps up thankyouverymuch ) -- System protected by Impregnable Ignorance (TM)
	permalink · 2004-08-10 15:57:08 ·

TexasGuy 49 States And Texas Premium join:2002-12-02 Houston, TX 1 edit	Going crazy here, bit by bit... As I was finishing "...services are largely responsible for the shift." I read it as "...services are largely responsible for the shit." I almost fell out of my chair. -- My way of dealing with problems, ignore it and it will go away. Who drank has died, who drinks will die. Is he immortal who is sober?
	permalink · 2004-08-10 15:59:22 ·

bmn ? ? ? Premium,ExMod 2003-06 join:2001-03-15 hiatus	Really? When did this happen? "Verizon and BellSouth are at 384kbps with their standard packages," I don't know about Verizon, but last I checked, Bellsouth still had a 256kbps upstream on the service I have and I have the "standard" service... -- No Confidence 2004 "Nationalism is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race." - Einstein
	permalink · 2004-08-10 16:09:48 ·

Boogeyman
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Re: Really?

I also have the basic package and 256 upload, when are we going to see this new powerful super duper fast screaming cheetah 384 upload? (sarcasm) Even though its still not anything to brag about, I would really like to see uploads that fast.

I think they should just go and make upload at least half of your download. Then I think most of us would at least be content, if not happy.

EDIT* Added the (sarcasm) so you all dont think I'm retarded.

EDIT* Had to add it again without the tag identifiers because it thinks its a valid html tag for some reason.

permalink · 2004-08-10 18:41:52 · Print ·

Jeffrey One day closer to Spring Premium join:2002-12-24 Dix Hills,NY clubs: ·Optimum Online ·Verizon FIOS ·Vonage ·magicjack.com	for once, im lucky :) I'm CV subscriber to their Optimum On-Line cable modem service, and while their newserver sucks and mail is semi unreliable, speed is fantastic. I've topped out at ~1.2MB/sec down and 1MB/sec up. So, I guess I'm not going anywhere until DOCSIS 2.0 lol Jeff
	permalink · 2004-08-10 16:11:12 ·

Jeffrey One day closer to Spring Premium join:2002-12-24 Dix Hills,NY clubs:	Re: for once, im lucky :) I have to learn to read my posts before I post. 10Mb/1Mb.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 16:14:40 ·

deramon join:2000-09-20 White Plains, NY clubs:	Re: for once, im lucky :) It is crazy..jeff because just try and use that 1 mg up.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 17:00:53 ·

en102
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How about these speeds...

permalink · 2004-08-10 18:51:49 · Print ·

supertbone join:2002-04-04 Pleasant Grove, UT	Re: for once, im lucky :) Lucky bastage
	permalink · 2004-08-10 18:55:57 ·

mogwai_UT join:2004-06-06 Lancaster, CA	How did you get 37Mbps down and 20Mbps up....something has to be wrong there.
	permalink · 2004-08-10 21:15:49 ·

en102 Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA	Re: for once, im lucky :) Good ol DS-3 connection - 45Mbps symmetrical
	permalink · 2004-08-10 22:20:02 ·

mogwai_UT join:2004-06-06 Lancaster, CA	Re: for once, im lucky :) ahhh work. I thought a DS-3 was 90Mbps.
	permalink · 2004-08-11 02:33:02 ·

indigo join:1999-08-22 Covina, CA	Just remember, don't use that upload for anything.. or they will cap it down to 160kbps faster than you can say "bait and switch" -- UT2004 18 player Onslaught server
	permalink · 2004-08-10 17:59:12 ·

Vamp 5c077 Premium join:2003-01-28 MD	Gaming.,, I just want to be able to host my own game server, and have atleast 20 people (so maybe 1 - 1.5 mbps of upload). -- :: My current desktop ::
	permalink · 2004-08-10 16:31:14 ·

indigo

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Amazing

There has to be a catch here somewhere. As it is, 1Mbps upload is still not a lot, I'll be impressed once they start offering 1.5-2Mbps and higher for upload, with no data transfer caps or prohibitions on servers. That's the way broadband should be. Even if they do this, however, DSL still suffers from the distance curse, and so the only people who will be able to have that kind of speed are the lucky ones living close to the CO.
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C0deZer0
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Obviously, this will take some heavy planning...

IF the companies actually want to do this right and not be half-arsed about it.

Obviously the whole infrastructure that is theirs will have to be improved for the obvious need of higher capacity(believe me, any improvement of speed will be used immediately).

Though I can't help but wonder how much longer from when these new changes are implemented to where we have posts about people bitching that only then are they getting the speeds they were promised before, when they're probably living in places with substandard wiring and or building quality.

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Great!

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Great!!!

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Kicking Cable Where It Hurts

Going crazy here, bit by bit...

Really?

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for once, im lucky :)

Re: for once, im lucky :)

Re: for once, im lucky :)

Re: for once, im lucky :)

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Gaming.,,

Amazing

Obviously, this will take some heavy planning...