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Dial-Up's Alamo
SBC Heads Below $20
by Karl Bode 09:59AM Thursday Oct 28 2004
SBC has announced that new users who also sign up for their "all distance" service can get a 1.5Mbps/384kbps DSL connection for less than $20, starting November 1. This comes on the heels of a move a move by Sonic.net to lower their standard 1.5Mbps dynamic DSL package to $21.95. Meanwhile, companies like Earthlink are still pitching a $22 dial-up package, while AOL still markets their traditional dial-up service for $24.

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dslwanter
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Mineral Ridge, OH

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Ok

Holy Toledo I just junked my pants. DSL for less than $20 that's more than 1mbps???? I am now paying $26.95 a month for my, I wonder if I could get my price lowered. I wonder if they will lower the other DSL packages as well. Hell maybe they'll bring 6mbps back.

It will now not be known as only $3 more, but around $3 less for A-O-Hell!
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gdm
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Mchenry, IL
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Re: Ok

Yup very cool...but notice you have to have the all distance package which last time I checked was $48.95 a month at least in atech region.

dslwanter
It's coming
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Mineral Ridge, OH

Re: Ok

said by gdm:

Yup very cool...but notice you have to have the all distance package which last time I checked was $48.95 a month at least in atech region.
I have the all-distance phone package.
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gdm
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Mchenry, IL
kudos:3

Re: Ok

Your set then

Passing through

@hstntx.swbell.ne
Close but no cigar SBC.

People know how to add and compare.

This is still a Comms Bundle in excess of 70 bucks a month with only a portion of the feature & plan benefits of VOIP.

Priced about 30%+ more than one needs to pay.
ross7

join:2000-08-16

Wake up MCI!!

Why haven't MCI and its' resellers lowered prices, or increased speed? They must be looking to get out of xDSL service, or they think recent FCC rulings will force them out and they intend to suck up every buck possible until then. I'm getting kind of tired of paying $50 a month for 1.5/768, even for static IP service. They better get off the dime pretty soon.

93388818
It's cool, I'm takin it back
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Dallas, TX

Re: Wake up MCI!!

said by ross7:

Why haven't MCI and its' resellers lowered prices, or increased speed? They must be looking to get out of xDSL service, or they think recent FCC rulings will force them out and they intend to suck up every buck possible until then. I'm getting kind of tired of paying $50 a month for 1.5/768, even for static IP service. They better get off the dime pretty soon.
Nobody is forcing anybody out.
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extreme100
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Coloma, MI

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Pffftt!

$49 (all distance) + $20 ( 1.5/384 dsl ) + $10 (misc taxes and universal slush fund ) = ~$79

or

$52 ( 4/384 Comcast HSI ) + $20 (Packet8) = ~$72

So Comcast delivers over 3 times faster downloads and Packet8 offers more calling features for $7 less per month than SBC.

And Comcast is actually available in too rural for DSL Coloma township.
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Omega
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Denver, CO

Re: Pffftt!

Um, where are you getting the $49 from?
extreme100
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Coloma, MI

Re: Pffftt!

said by Omega:

Um, where are you getting the $49 from?
Ok, $48.95 to be exact.
Anyway, from the tmcnet article:
"The All Distance bundle delivers unlimited local and nationwide direct-dial long distance calling, Caller ID, voicemail and the choice of two SBC calling features for just $48.95 a month. SBC Yahoo! DSL Express is one of the fastest-growing high speed Internet services in the United States, offering download speeds of 384 Kbps - 1.5 Mbps and upload speeds of up to 384 Kbps, virtually unlimited e- mail account storage, industry-leading safety and security features, and award-winning parental controls package.
"
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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA

Re: Pffftt!

ahh no if you don't have cable tv from them look at the price of $63.95 or at least that is what my cable cost.
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icp1
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join:2000-10-13
Saint Louis, MO
said by extreme100:

$49 (all distance) + $20 ( 1.5/384 dsl ) + $10 (misc taxes and universal slush fund ) = ~$79

or

$52 ( 4/384 Comcast HSI ) + $20 (Packet8) = ~$72

So Comcast delivers over 3 times faster downloads and Packet8 offers more calling features for $7 less per month than SBC.

And Comcast is actually available in too rural for DSL Coloma township.
Sure looks like a good deal either way to me. This is called COMPETITION. Some people will be scared off from VOIP because of poor uptime/911 issues, and others hate cable or phone so much they will go to the other no matter what. Either way looks like a win to consumers to me.

And of course, neither the comcast deal or SBCs deal will be available for everyone/everywhere, but it's a start.
fenrir903

join:2001-03-07
Eau Claire, WI

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said by extreme100:


$49 (all distance) + $20 ( 1.5/384 dsl ) + $10 (misc taxes and universal slush fund ) = ~$79

or

$52 ( 4/384 Comcast HSI ) + $20 (Packet8) = ~$72

So Comcast delivers over 3 times faster downloads and Packet8 offers more calling features for $7 less per month than SBC.

And Comcast is actually available in too rural for DSL Coloma township.
I would take a hard line phone line anyday over VOIP (if that is what Packet8 is) at this point. VOIP just isn't quite there for me.

Matt

Denjin

join:2001-01-18
Schaumburg, IL

Re: Pffftt!

He included Packet8. I'm not sure what their $20 plan is, but other VOIP providers at least do unlimited domestic calling at that rate.
said by fenrir903:

said by extreme100:



$49 (all distance) + $20 ( 1.5/384 dsl ) + $10 (misc taxes and universal slush fund ) = ~$79

or

$52 ( 4/384 Comcast HSI ) + $20 (Packet8) = ~$72

So Comcast delivers over 3 times faster downloads and Packet8 offers more calling features for $7 less per month than SBC.

And Comcast is actually available in too rural for DSL Coloma township.
I would take a hard line phone line anyday over VOIP (if that is what Packet8 is) at this point. VOIP just isn't quite there for me.

Matt

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sivran
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Irving, TX
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Re: Pffftt!

A land-line's only 20 bucks too...

brandon
Some truth included in this post.
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Hurley, MS
That $52 for Comcast HSI...is that with or without CableTV service?
alfnoid
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Re: Pffftt!

that is WITH cable TV and that is not the normal package...normal is 3000/256 for $42 IF you own your cable modem.

he is also rounding down for his quote and up for telco's

peace
extreme100
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Coloma, MI

Re: Pffftt!

said by alfnoid:

he is also rounding down for his quote and up for telco's
peace

That's because the telcos round up when they advertise their DSL product's connection speed. Yah, I know, it's the PPoE overhead thing but with Comcast I actually get the advertised speeds, even during the Internet rush hour.
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MackMarvel

join:2004-02-15
Benton Harbor, MI
said by extreme100:

$49 (all distance) + $20 ( 1.5/384 dsl ) + $10 (misc taxes and universal slush fund ) = ~$79

or

$52 ( 4/384 Comcast HSI ) + $20 (Packet8) = ~$72

So Comcast delivers over 3 times faster downloads and Packet8 offers more calling features for $7 less per month than SBC.

And Comcast is actually available in too rural for DSL Coloma township.
You can get cable Comcast internet in Coloma. I wish they just buy out greene county cause they are taking forever to roll out cable internet. I've been on SBC DSL for about 4 years now but I would really love to have cable so I can finally ditch my POTS line.
extreme100
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Coloma, MI

Re: Pffftt!

said by MackMarvel:

... but I would really love to have cable so I can finally ditch my POTS line.
I've heard that Motorola and Nextel are developing a cell phone that will route calls through a wireless cable modem while in range and through the Nextel cellular network when away from home. I suspect that will pretty much be the final blow to POTS.
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Mr Anon

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post subject

I don't know if its just me, but after doing a speed test on the SBC speed test page I clicked the link for the offerec SBC speeds... 1.5/384 wasn't listed to my supprise 1.5 - 3.0/384 or 786 - 1.4/128 was. Now myabe they were hiding the it because its what I already have. Weird. Oh and don't for get the port 25 closing GRRRRRR.
krobar
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Columbus, OH

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Re: post subject

uhm, port 25 hasn't been blocked for anyone yet (at least no one who's posted about it yet) and isn't that big an issue since your email provider should allow other ports anyways.

Secondly, they don't show it as 384 upload yet because they're not done converting all the CO's and RT's over to it, but as they do the people on it get bumped up automatically.

I think this is cool, that comcast $52 price for 4/584 doesn't include regular cable though, which I'm thinking is a minimum of $10, to get the best price they offer for their cable internet. Therefore SBC still comes in under that figure.

(Numbers based on COX cable in my area since I can't get exact pricing for Comcast since it's not in my area.)
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extreme100
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Re: post subject

said by krobar:

I think this is cool, that comcast $52 price for 4/584 doesn't include regular cable though, which I'm thinking is a minimum of $10, to get the best price they offer for their cable internet. Therefore SBC still comes in under that figure.
Are you suggesting someone could live without TV?
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Nightfall
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Re: post subject

said by extreme100:

said by krobar:

I think this is cool, that comcast $52 price for 4/584 doesn't include regular cable though, which I'm thinking is a minimum of $10, to get the best price they offer for their cable internet. Therefore SBC still comes in under that figure.
Are you suggesting someone could live without TV?
Either that or go with another provider like I do with DirecTV with Tivo.
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steelyken

join:2002-03-04
Plainfield, IN

Re: post subject

Geez, would you people either stop quoting the previous post or put quotation marks around quotes... It is making my head hurt trying to read what appears to be double posts!

Sorry for the rant....

Pz_

join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
Directivo is freakin awesome. I actually watch tv now. Before when I had digital cable, I would maybe catch like 30 mins a week or so. Now I watch tv almost everyday, its great.

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Re: post subject

said by Pz_:

Directivo is freakin awesome. I actually watch tv now. Before when I had digital cable, I would maybe catch like 30 mins a week or so. Now I watch tv almost everyday, its great.
Oh yea. I rarely watch live TV anymore. Watching that Boston vrs St. Louis baseball game last night with all the commercials was a pain. I record a ton of stuff, and it is amazing how many shows you can watch when you skip the 12-15 minutes of commercials in a hour long show.
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krobar
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Columbus, OH
said by extreme100:

Are you suggesting someone could live without TV?
I've been without cable tv since I cancelled Cox back in February, haven't missed it except for very rarely when something is on sci-fi or comedy central that I want to see. I subscribe to netflix, get pretty good reception (considering our apartment is half buried in the ground) for local channels, and Buy all the TV shows that I miss.
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Re: post subject

You get good reception with netflix? How is this possible? netflix is an online dvd rental service.
krobar
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Columbus, OH

Re: post subject

lol, sorry, was on a phone call here at work, I meant I get good reception for the local tv channels just using an antenna in my apartment. I get movies from netflix. Missed separating those two points.
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
SBC does make you check your username and passwords before you can send mail. if you use another provider you have to work around their system. i had them for DSL and its a pain in the ass to check email from another provider such as work from home or if you are away from home on a laptop on a hotel network or such.

thats why they have yahoo for E-mail--for problems they say use webmail. then no support or problems

That was even their way to fix my problems sending email from my POP Account---"use Webmail it will always work, that's why we give it to you."

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quote:
1.5/384 wasn't listed to my supprise 1.5 - 3.0/384 or 786 - 1.4/128 was.
Because the migration is not complete, SBC still advertises the basic service as 1.5/128. It will probably start out with the 384 upload for most people at this point, if not, will soon be upgraded.
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electric_dsl

join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON

o canada

again i am surprised at the amount of cash you guys hand out for your broadband.

You can get 1.5 meg here for 24$ CAD after taxes and 3 meg for 45$. then you have cable which is the same price or cheaper with higher speeds in some areas. Like Cogeco that has something insane like 10 megs for 50. Don;t quote me I will have to look that one up

Authority
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join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA

Re: o canada

said by electric_dsl:

again i am surprised at the amount of cash you guys hand out for your broadband. You can get 1.5 meg here for 24$ CAD
Darn - that's what like $10 US? Amazing!
stridr69

join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA

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Re: o canada

Yeah...and I'll bet the Canadian government pays a portion of that as well. Which means EVERY citizen of Canada pays for broadband through TAXES. Whether you have broadband or not.
Which means, well...you know how socialism works....right?
BBWEST

join:2004-09-05
Port Angeles, WA

Dial-up isnt dead because QWEST lives

if you live in a QWEST area you might never get DSL

DAMN YOU FCC

QWEST = JSTP
Jack Sh*t to Premises.

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DSLExtreme offers $21.95 DSL access also

And it's available in all SBC areas except CT. No phone bundle required.

»Re: DSLX's lowers price on DSL

The story makes it sound like SBC's deal is a reaction to the competitive move by Sonic.net. The reality is probably that SBC lowered their wholesale price in anticipation of their own deal. As usual, DSLX and Sonic were just able to take advantage of it before the SBC machine could start offering it themselves.

-- Rob
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ced06

join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA

dialup

Here I am, paying $24/month for 56k @ 28.8k. Good job Towanda!