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Verizon Vs. Pennsylvania
Telco applauds self, dodges history
by Karl Bode 02:22PM Friday Nov 12 2004
Verizon's latest press release applauds itself for spending some $8 billion on getting DSL to much of the state. It doesn't much discuss how Pennsylvania taxpayers paid billions for a fiber optic network never deployed, nor how the telco was let off the hook by well lobbied state regulators after receiving said tax-based incentives. The press release's purpose is to gather support for new statewide legislation backed by Verizon, which many consumer advocates say actually holds Verizon less accountable for deployment in the state, while delivering them billions in additional incentives.

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enOehT
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Langhorne, PA

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Verizon should be ashamed.

Verizon stole billions from PA.

ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Re: Verizon should be ashamed.

Corporate greed at its best...

Steimes
I make internets
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join:2002-01-08
Belle Vernon, PA
kudos:1

Re: Verizon should be ashamed.

And government corruption.

bad-decisions

@optonline.net
MUNICIPAL FIBER ROLLOUT, STATEWIDE, EASE VERIZON OUT
OF PENNSYLVANIA ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Albo8

join:2002-09-06
Brooklyn, NY
I allways belive that Verizon its the worst company.(Period)
i just want my money back that they owe me from overcharging my account

borborpa
Slipping Slowly Into Oblivion
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join:2002-02-20
New Cumberland, PA

Well...

Sounds like it's time to bend back over....

Musicscom
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join:2004-08-24
Washington, DC

Which is stove, which is frying pan?

Know what I mean?

Verizon stole nothing from Pennsylvania that Pennsylvania didn't steal from it's citizens.

However, Verizon does a better job of not lying about a self-destructing and one-time state income tax.

You'd have to know politics to get this right; the ideaology goes "now Verizon owes us fiber," which will come from the legislature and speed up that fiber deployment. And about time too.

Next on Verizon and Pennsylvania's agenda is to get Texas and UU [dubya] to live up to their end of the bargain for billions in tax incentives for moving DSL HQ to Texas by issuing Federal Funds.

I'd say, George, about $20 Billion out to satisfy us here in Pennsylvania.

Remember when some Texans tried to buy Bank of America? Cash McCall didn't know how to play poker with an Easterner tenderfoot. To date, Texas already owes us 20 Billion for that deal, and we still own the bank, marvelous.

And now, for the payments for Verizon deal . . .



Let's see, Verizon beat the R.I.A.A., it is providing DSL and pushing for fiber for us Pennsylvanians, at least giving us something for our tax monies, and we still own Verizon. Yup, I'd say keep on trucking Verizon; kick their butts!

And thank you Pennsylvania legislators for helping them. We congratulate you. Now, after Washington boys!

Yee Ha!
Round them doggies up!
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Dontcha Know When Its Wrong?

woody7
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Torrance, CA

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................

The problem just doesn't rest with the puc, if the people took the time to read, and ask questions of their legislature, this might have turned out different, the politicians know this, thats how they survive....
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BlooMe
Cod

join:2000-07-05
Kernersville, NC

Re: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................

I wonder how many times Broadbandreports.com can beat this story like a dead horse...I know I've read it atleast 5-10 times here in the last few months. Move on to more relavant news like the stuff BBR poaches from Slashdot & others.

Musicscom
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Washington, DC

Re: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................

New York doesn't even need a dead horse to beat, do they now?

There's enough fish stories in Appletown to satisfy any good journalistic horsebeater with subsitute fishbeating; it's a lot like McDonald's in NYC, they call it burger, but it's spelled "f-i-s-h."

Whatever happened to the guy from Connecticutt that reported McDonald's burgers were actually 50% fishheads and guts from Cape Cod fisheries anyway?

Verizon and Pennsylvania are allies, not adversaries, maybe that's why they keep reporting with the wrong headlines.
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Dontcha Know When Its Wrong?

EnzonE

join:2000-03-23
Indiana, PA
I'm glad they're keeping this alive to set an example from others to learn from. Who knows maybe at some point in the future a similar thing may happen in your state, and you would remain grateful like us that this site is making others still aware.
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Verizon 768k/128k @ 16,200 feet from CO.Activated June 13 2001.Now at 17,047 feet+ !

sbhusted

join:2000-05-14
Bethlehem, PA

Don't blame Verizon...

Our representatives in the State Government let them get away with it.
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Scott B. Hustedhttp://www.Husted.cc

wage_slave

@comcast.net

Only a few billion

Heh! If Joe Sixpack cheats the state or federal treasury out of a few grand at tax time, he'll soon find his cheeks sizzling in the fire. Corporate America seems able to play by a different set of rules though.
ced06

join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA

Ok.

I'm in Pennsylvania, I don't have Verizon DSL. I can't get any form of broadband. Verizon doesn't even offer landline service in my area. There is no chance of FIOS.

ropeguru
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Mechanicsville, VA

Just found this...

Maybe Verizon is looking to do something in PA. I just found these job opening for their FTTP division:

Oct 07 US-PA-Washington Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Pottstown Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Norristown Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Colmar Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Trevose Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Doylestown Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Malvern Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Coatesville Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Kennett Square Splicing Technician

Oct 07 US-PA-Feltonville Splicing Technician

BrianDamage06
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX

Re: Just found this...

Companies post non-existent job openings all of the time. Some do it just to see how much feedback they will get, others just to shine on the economists.
Suffice it to say that Verizon has been boondoggling their way in and out of liability in Pennsylvania for years. This story is very old news. I remember commenting on this very topic as far back as two years ago.
They have done the same in other areas as well.
I live in a Verzon-controlled area. I have lived here since December 2000. I couldn't get DSL then, and still can't get it. I ended up getting a cable modem from Comcast.
When asked Verizon will say that they have been working on remoting fiber fed RTs out to where I live. Funny....I've seen no one digging, laying fiber, or putting up enclosures.
Of course, it's the same old song and dance since I moved here in 2000. They have done nothing. Be not surprised in PA either. I haven't been there since 2002, but, when I was there, I was putting in wireless internet systems in and around Pittsburgh for Allegheny Power because someone had to step up and provide a broadband alternative for PA subscribers.
I will close by saying that I use ATT wirelesss for phone service, Comcast for broadband internet, and totally kicked Verizon out of the premises. No land lines necessary these days.
They should take a hint. Incumbent carriers are rapidly becoming outdated.
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"It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm wearin' milk bone underwear."
caktusrn

join:2004-01-10
Palmyra, PA

Hmmmmmm

No dsl where i live in S. centeral ,PA ...
Boobie1998
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Whitehall, PA

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Re: Hmmmmmm

Spend all that money but still here i am cant get DSL. where it go! I guess they forgot about the Lehigh Valley.

BrianDamage06
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX

Re: Hmmmmmm

Like I said, no DSL here where I live either. They didn't forget...they just are doing nothing to implement it.
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"It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm wearin' milk bone underwear."
ebubman

join:2002-01-17
Mechanicsburg, PA

what a shock...

i have cable broadband; we booted our verizon landline out the front door last year when we opted for a national gsm shared cell plan. despite their "we're here to help you" press, verizon's rates are far too high & they continually look to loot the public tills based on future services they fail to provide. the telcos need to wake up. in a wireless world, they're much like neatly arranged chairs on the deck of the titanic......

mamoon

@fdn.com

Don't you understand yet?

Politicians are elected by contributions(with attached promises) by large donations from corporations. Loyalty is to the money, either political contributions or tax income. That's the way it is. Change the way people are elected and change the system. Otherwise, live with it. That's the choices. Another way is to get "V" out by the wallet-no customers, no "V".

FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA

Fry them all.

Verizon is slow, and irrisponsible. I want my 10 mbps fiber please. It will cost less to run a fiber-ized state than a copper-ized state. The sheer bandwith gain alone is enough to offset much of the cost. Anyone up for recycled copper landlines from verizon?