 KAIFS V I PPremium,MVM join:2001-01-11 CHEEEESE WI | they will fold they will fold just like most CLECs did. Not to mention, VoIP will become regulated, in my opinion, and that will kill most shady companies right at the root. -- Bush told us he would create jobs - he just didn't tell us they would be in China, India and the Philippines. | |
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 |  DaSneaky1Done wall to block them allPremium,MVM join:2001-03-29 The Lou Reviews:
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2 edits | Re: they will fold Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. Likely, there will be a "Covad" affect once the telco get into the ring.
After all the small outfits are killed off, a bigger name like Vonage will be subsidized by a telco just to say, "Hey, there is competition." -- ] :: my trivial ramblings :: [ | |
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 |  DonLibesPremium,ExMod 2001 join:2003-01-19 | My prediction: I doubt the FCC will take any active regulation unless serious problems appear (and they haven't so far). The ILECs and Cable companies will not be competitive. There will be mergers though and 400 will shrink to dozens or less. Anything below that and there will be opportunities for new players to compete on price. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: they will fold I would expect the next move to be in the Courts, given the ambiguity of the Communications Act and the desire of a number of States to thwart the potential loss of revenue resultant from a user shift from POTS to VoIP. | |
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| Re: they will fold The practical problem of actually reaching these providers may preclude serious regulation--if the regulation is too heavy or too taxing, they'll just move offshore.
Any offshore VoIP provider can connect users in Pulver fashion almost without effort, and connections to the PSTN can be bought. While PSTN connection may be a bottleneck or choke point that regulators may try to control, it won't be easy.
Realistically, state regulators and taxing authorities looking at VoIP are about like the Chinese thought police looking at the Internet. They may say and think that they can control it, but they are fooling only themselves.
calvoiper -- VoIP--the death knell of remaining voice monopolies! | |
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 |  |  | | said by DonLibes:My prediction: I doubt the FCC will take any active regulation unless serious problems appear (and they haven't so far). The ILECs and Cable companies will not be competitive. There will be mergers though and 400 will shrink to dozens or less. Anything below that and there will be opportunities for new players to compete on price. I disagree,
I believe the bigger cable companies will thrive. They have the pipe that is capable of providing VoIP, Video, and Internet right now. The phone companies have to invest a LOT of money to make VDSL work and IMHO I don't think it ever will fly.
A lot of the smaller players will disappear but ultimately we will have more competition which is always good. | |
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 |  GO BLUE1Greed Is GoodPremium join:2004-03-08 IN YOUR MIND | it will be like the highlander series..."IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE"....LOL -- WOLVERINE | |
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 |  |  | | Re: they will fold said by GO BLUE1:it will be like the highlander series..."IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE"....LOL This statement should go right up there with that famous IBM CEO quote back in the 50's or 60's. "I think there is a worldwide market for maybe 12 computers", or something like that. LOL!
Just like the Airline industry or anything else, there will be expansion, contraction, consolidation etc. but ultimately, over the long term, competition will grow. | |
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 woody7Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................ Thats whats great about this country.....someone found/created a service that the major players weren't offering, now they all want in the game, some a little late, and when the biggies get involved will have the rules changed to force out everyone else....and offer mediocre service....for an inflated rate.... -- BlooMe | |
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| Re: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................ said by woody7:.... and when the biggies get involved will have the rules changed to force out everyone else....and offer mediocre service....for an inflated rate.... Didn't you know? That's what the FCC telecom policy is - give the incumbents what they want, when they want it and how they want it. | |
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 | | It will all be free.. Sort of Too bad voip will become like e-mail. A value added service from your isp. Sure there will be your few have nots on the legacy system, but eventually local will go the way of long distance and be free.
Becuase of things like the no call list there may be things offered such as ... Ket us telemarket you for a free phone. 
Speakeasy has a VOip package now. How long before they simply give it as part of their service.
After the shake up in voice video will be next. No one will be immune. And the consumer will be the big winner. States will have to find new ways to rape us with taxes and rocket scientist will be able to work as scientist instead of interpreting our phone bills. | |
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 |  | | Re: It will all be free.. Sort of said by Freezone:Too bad voip will become like e-mail. A value added service from your isp. Sure there will be your few have nots on the legacy system, but eventually local will go the way of long distance and be free. Wow, you have FREE local phone service? How do you get that? | |
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