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Bush Signs Net Access Tax Ban
Extends the moratorium through November 1, 2007
by Optimized 10:16AM Saturday Dec 04 2004
President Bush on Friday signed into law a new four-year ban on state and federal taxation of Internet connections, retroactive to its expiration on November 1, 2003, and extends the moratorium through November 1, 2007. The latest version of the Internet Tax Nondiscrimination Act expands the original dial-up definition of access to include DSL, cable modems and wireless Internet connections. It also blocks states from differentiating for tax purposes between dial-up and broadband hookups. The new law also grandfathers the 12 states that were taxing Internet access before the passage of the 1998 act, a major victory for states' concerns about losing tax revenues.

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lupinia
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join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA

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Yay

One of two items I actually applaud Bush for, yippee skippy. I'm not sure that keeping internet access tax-free will help increase broadband penetration like he says, but it can't hurt it, and it's a tax cut that non-multi-millionaires can actually benefit from

EDIT: It's been five minutes and no one else has posted? Am I the only user who has to be at work today?

jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
Premium
join:2003-10-25
Savannah, GA

Re: Yay

Nope. I'm about to go to work too.... This law is good news though - with rate hikes by everyone and mysterious additional fees being tacked on by DSL providers the internet is getting to be expensive enough as is..

EL_TB

join:2003-05-03
Fairfax, VA

Re: Yay

I think I am looking at the right tax. If it is, whoo hoo! I save like a buck! WHoo hoo!

Nightshade
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Salem, OR
Probably so since it's Saturday.

Bush signing the four year ban is a good step in the right direction and applaud for him as well in taking this action.

Now it needs to be taken to the next step and be permanent.
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ricep5
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Jacksonville, FL

Re: Yay

nightshade sez:

"Now it needs to be taken to the next step and be permanent"

If there is one thing about taxes and government, nothing is permanent. If its not in the Bill of Rights, or carries a Constitutional Amendment, the government will tax it.

By "renewing" the tax ban, they are saying "we reserve the right to tax it later"

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

Re: Yay

said by ricep5:

nightshade sez:
If there is one thing about taxes and government, nothing is permanent. If its not in the Bill of Rights, or carries a Constitutional Amendment, the government will tax it./BQUOTE]Just because it is in the Bill of Rights does not mean the government will not tax it. Try purchasing a newspaper, bible or firearm without paying any taxes.
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Nightshade
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Salem, OR

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All constitutional admendments can be changed dude, all it takes is another constutional admendment to supercede the orginal admendment. Think about the Prohibition Era

Even the Bill of Rights are not immune because they are also admendments to the constitution, no more and no less.

What I said was my opnion, or an idea as well. Just becuase I said it does not mean it will come to be.

Politians are deaf and dumb to ideas and opnions of the citizens they represent becuase they can only hear what the money is talking.

Now please excuse me. I feel like listening to a certain AC/DC song right about now.
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Vchat20
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Columbus, OH
couldnt agree more. ive been highly anti-Bush ever since the election started. but i have to applaud Bush for this. good Job GW!

Stewy85
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I just hope this doesn't cause VOIP to be taxed.
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Lone Wolf
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I wonder how Al Gore (the guy who invented the internet) feels about this.;)

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Nerdtalker
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Re: Yay

said by Lone Wolf:

I wonder how Al Gore (the guy who invented the internet) feels about this.;)

Tax and spend, tax and spend!
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mwf

join:2000-11-26
Granite Quarry, NC
I'm not a millionaire and I benefitted from the tax cuts, just because I have two kids.

Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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Seward, AK

Re: Yay

I'm a single white male and was 22 at the time of the tax cuts and I saw a nice fat return from it.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: Yay

said by Boogeyman:

I'm a single white male and was 22 at the time of the tax cuts and I saw a nice fat return from it.
Almost the same boat and I saw no return at all. I was a little older though.

No taxation for 4 years will allow it to grow. Then they tax it then and make a killing. Sort of like those $20 a month offers from comcast. After month 6 you get hammered.
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mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
said by mwf:

I'm not a millionaire and I benefitted from the tax cuts, just because I have two kids.
I also saw a large benefit both in dollars and %. What people fail to realize is that it was a tax cut geared towards families. A family of 4 making 40K now pays nothing in income tax.

sbdjaro
I Dunno
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Grand Junction, CO

Internet(s)

Yeah, but which one???

lupinia
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Harrisonburg, VA

Re: Internet(s)

The one that the fundies keep clean of porn, scams, and malware

Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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NYC Metro

The New George?

Good job for BUSH!

I hate George Bush for his unjust war in Iraq and other things..... But this is a good thing he has put into effect. I applaud him and hope this is a sign of change in his administration, though I don't believe this will be true....

-Tzale

Bill
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join:2001-12-09

Re: The New George?

... He has always wanted to lower taxes and he gave out tax breaks for people during his first 4 years.

This is nothing new.

lupinia
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Harrisonburg, VA

Re: The New George?

But this tax cut will actually benefit someone other than multi-millionaires

Bill
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join:2001-12-09

Re: The New George?

The tax cut he gave benefitted my family, and we sure as hell ain't millionaires

But I do applaud you guys for actually saying you like something Bush has done. Enough of this "If Bush likes it, I hate it" crap.

anon745

@okcyok.swbell.ne
My wife and I fall wayy short of millionaire status, say $950,000 short, and we received a considerable tax break last year. What a nonsensical line of thinking only the "rich" benefit from the tax cuts last year.

And on topic: Excellent news on the tax freeze

Thaler
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Los Angeles, CA
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Re: The New George?

said by anon745:

My wife and I fall wayy short of millionaire status, say $950,000 short, and we received a considerable tax break last year.
So how did you like your tax-rebate Big Mac?
mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA

Re: The New George?


A family of four can buy a lot of big macs with the extra $1,000 at least they got. $800 more in Child Tax credit, the increased excemption, and the huge increase in standard deduction (FINALLY making the married SD twice the single), the addition of a 10% bracket, then later expanding on that bracket.

Families of 4 making 40K saw a 100% tax cut. I saw a drastic cut in the percentage I paid as well.The percentage was in the 20's IIRC.

Nerdtalker
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said by Tzale:

Good job for BUSH!

AMEN!!! GW won over the BBR crowd! :D:D
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Re: The New George?

said by Nerdtalker:

said by Tzale:

Good job for BUSH!

AMEN!!! GW won over the BBR crowd! :D:D
One step to winning us over. Still a considerable distance left to walk in that mile
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Ghostmaker

join:2003-01-20
Brunswick, OH

Looks like Ohio is going to fight it

Federal legislation known as the Internet Tax Freedom Act, effective October 21, 1998 imposed a three-year moratorium on State and local taxes on Internet access and on-line services. Specifically excluded from the moratorium are taxes that were in effect prior to the effective date of the Federal statute and generally enforced. Ohio's inclusion of electronic information services in the definition of a sale was enacted in 1993, and the same services would have been considered automatic data processing under the law that existed prior to that date. The application of sales and use taxes to these services has been generally enforced. Therefore, Ohio's tax on Internet access and on-line services is not subject to the Federal moratorium

Ohios tax was passed ST 1999-04 - ON-LINE SERVICES AND INTERNET ACCESS - January, 1999 Thats one year after the new federal law.
PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

How Sad ...

... so this is the full extent of all he's going to do to fulfill his campaign promise of universal broadband by 2007?

How is this going to result in broadband being deployed to the tens of millions who don't now have it?

In reality, the guy probably doesn't even know what broadband is. The objective of the campaign promise was in all likelihood just to get this tax ban passed, to make telco and cable company contributors and lobbyists happy.

Us folks wanting BB will continue to be screwed.
BosstonesOwn

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Re: How Sad ...

said by PDXPLT:

... so this is the full extent of all he's going to do to fulfill his campaign promise of universal broadband by 2007?

How is this going to result in broadband being deployed to the tens of millions who don't now have it?

In reality, the guy probably doesn't even know what broadband is. The objective of the campaign promise was in all likelihood just to get this tax ban passed, to make telco and cable company contributors and lobbyists happy.

Us folks wanting BB will continue to be screwed.
I bet that the white house has dual ds3 and he knows what broadband is. He is probably surfing for porn as we type.

GWB : Hey Laura you gotta see this lady on the internets. You type in the window and she does it. Look honey I told her to put up a GWB sign and she did. Wonder if she knows where Osama is hiding.

BTW why does every one rack on him for the "internets" comment technically there is 2 "internets" available. Just not to all of us.
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Neil6
Stop All The Downloadin

join:2003-08-20
New York, NY

retroactive to 2003?

I don't like the sound of that.
sycopathman

join:2003-09-23
Abilene, TX

What states continue to Tax

Which states get to keep the tax?
MontyMan
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Sumter, SC

Re: What states continue to Tax

Colorado, Hawaii, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin.

grunt187

join:2001-11-19
Hornell, NY

Re: What states continue to Tax

Where did you find this list of 11 states, and isn't it supposed to be 12 ?
FishNET

join:2004-07-01
Haddonfield, NJ

Wow

Wow, for once Bush does something *GOOD*!

Finally, I'm tired of seeing internet prices go up cause of new taxes all the time.

•••

Shamayim
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This is no surprise

Repubs/Conservatives lower taxes; Dems/liberals raise them. I expected this.
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xpandergt

join:2004-07-10
Baltimore, MD

George Bush Rules!

George Bush RULES!! He rocks on the war on terror and he rocks on the war on fighting tax and spend demoRATS. Iam so glad I voted for him.lol. Uh is the war in iraq unjust or illegal because the UN said so? lol if thats the case four words OIL FOR FOOD SCANDAL;)

paulhaskew
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join:2002-01-10
Vancouver, WA

Re: George Bush Rules!

heh , oh, beware the trolls...
chickenhq
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here

They are taxing it.

begin in 2007... Wake up infowars.com
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gmavro

join:2001-10-30
Stratford, NJ

Copy of the Bill stating extension to 2007

Does anybody know where I can get the latest copy of the Internet Tax Nondiscrimination Act? I found a few sites, but they only have the 2003 version which doesn't include P. Bush's extension to 2007.

The reason I ask is because I called up Earthlink to get a refund for the months that they still charged me tax for and they said they wanted a copy of the Bill as proof mailed to them.

Thanks in advance.