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join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN | Nice Product So far the product seems to work well and caught some stuff that Ad-Aware did not catch. | |
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Jameson
10-8
Premium
join:2004-05-28
Fallbrook, CA
clubs:  | Re: Nice Product im going to try it when i get home!!! | |
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join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | Re: Nice Product IT is not labelling it as spyware.
It is saying that piece of software acts and does things that spyware may do.
Besides it recommends that you keep it. | |
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join:2002-02-19
Battle Creek, MI | Actually VNC violates your EULA with Microsoft. But we too use RealVNC. Love the Antispyware beta though. | |
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click_310
Eat my shorts
join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
| Re: Nice Product said by campbelc  :Actually VNC violates your EULA with Microsoft. How?
NOTE: I have never in my life read the MS EULA. Don't feel like wasting a perfectly good Friday afternoon doing it either. | |
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join:2004-09-15
Sebewaing, MI
| Re: Nice ProductHe's probably talking about this part... (this has been there since Windows 2000, BTW)
Except as otherwise permitted by the
NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop
features described below, you may not use the Product
to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
executable software residing on the Workstation Computer,
nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display,
or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless
the Device has a separate license for the Product.
So, technically, to VNC to your windows box from your linux box, you would need a windows license for your linux box.
I remember someone once mused on what this phone call might go like:
MS: Hello, Microsoft Licensing, may I help you?
U: Yes, I need to purchase a windows license for my linux box.
MS: ok, what version of windows do you currently have?
U: I don't have windows. I need a license for my linux box so I can remotely connect to a windows machine at work.
MS: So what version of windows do you have?
U: I DON'T HAVE WINDOWS. I HAVE LINUX.
MS: Oh, well we don't support linux. Thank you for calling Microsoft! | |
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anon7007
@rr.com | The king of spyware making an anti-spyware product. Yeah I trust that. Not. | |
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join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | Re: Nice Product Microsoft isn't the king of spyware...
They are the king of selling really expensive products. | |
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Persona
Premium
join:2004-07-07
Gravenhurst, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
| I like it - found some legitimate stuff ad-aware and spybot over looked
Uses a little too much RAM as it idles in the systray though - I believe. | |
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Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA | Re: Nice Product Yeah it works real good,got rid of stuff that adaware and other spyware programs did not | |
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Tech-2005
@pacbell.n
| Here is the list of antispyware that I ran before installing Microsoft antispyware:
SpySweeper 3.5 (latest version)
SpywareBlaster
Ad-Aware SE personal
Spybot S&D
McAfee antispyware
I also have Norton AV 2003 with all current updates & the latest Zone Alarm Pro 5.5 with privacy settings set to block mobile code, cookies, etc.
I ran a scan with Microsoft antispyware (Giant AS) and it came up with three severe security threats. One adware and two spyware. One I think was found possibly in the McAfee AS quarantine directory, one was associated with the browser. The other one was just sitting in the Windows system directory.
I run scans every day with all the other AS programs mentioned and yet this MS antispyware program picked up THREE severe threats. All that "other" spyware protection with TWO of them blocking on the fly in real time and I still had three severe threats found by the Microsoft antispyware.
My suggestion is that everyone who has any sanity regarding security to download this completely free Microsoft ( Giant formerly) product ASAP and run a scan ! | |
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PunkGod
join:2003-02-02
| I like it. It found two items adaware SE Pro, spybot and spyware doctor didn't. It found Grokster and WebHancer, two items I never knew were on my computer and this is after a reformat not to long ago. I had a feeling something wasn't right with my computer cause web pages were acting weird and slower than normal. I'm using opera browser if anyone is wondering. | |
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Tech-2005
@pacbell.n
| Re: Nice Product PunkGod...You are correct about that...
On my system it found WebHancer, KCGame (RAT), and SearchSquire.
Even with the new MS Antispyware running now in the background along with my other AS programs...because of these spyware programs removed...my browsing speed has increased quite a bit. This Giant AS program that Microsoft bought is tops in the antispyware game. I really like it. | |
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Soujiro Seta
Hiten Mitsurugi Ryuu
join:2003-05-29
Santa Monica, CA |  Does it really work? i mean more effective than mcaffee? | |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | . He said WHAT?
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hpguru
Curb Your Dogma
Premium
join:2002-04-12
| Re: . said by B :He said WHAT? -- B At least he didn't call them terrorists. 
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Boundlessly expands the sky and nothing stops the white clouds from freely flying about. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: .
I do admit the whole copyleft thing is pretty transparent, but I think reasonable people can draw distinctions between Marxism, real mundane economics, and "F"ree software.
In other words, communism is silly, but Free/open source works great. Precisely because software exists in a virtual world in which the cost of replication and distribution is negligible.
I know I'll regret this.
-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function | |
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
clubs:
| Re: . said by B :I know I'll regret this. Why?
You made sense.
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Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism. | |
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| raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
| said by B :He said WHAT? -- B Microsoft is a position of "damned if they do, damned if they don't". I would prefer the Microsoft release such products as Microsoft knows the inner workings of their OS better than anyone else.
I also like the ability of the Microsoft product to restore any browser that has been hijacked.
Downside is that the beta expires in 206 days and then I will have to get something. But if this beta is any indication then Microsoft may be the way to go for me. | |
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
clubs:
| Re: . said by raythompsontn : I also like the ability of the Microsoft product to restore any browser that has been hijacked. That should be changed to read "most" browsers. There are plenty of people who use Windows ME on down on the Internet that suffer from spyware.
This beta says "Let them eat cake" to me.
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Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism. | |
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join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | Re: Didn't know they where making one. SP2 was supposed to turn of the messaging service (i believe)... maybe you should get sp2 | |
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slick2684
We Can't Stop Here. This Is Bat Country.
Premium
join:2003-11-15
Santa Barbara, CA
clubs: | Re: Didn't know they where making one. That would be on XP. I'm at work on Windows 2000.
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join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | Re: Didn't know they where making one. there you go slick.
windows messaging service can be used to spam the shit out off you.
SOOOOOO at home they turn this off. However at work it should be no problem.
So whats your point? Its doing what it is supposed to do | |
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GlenQuagmire
Giggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo
Premium
join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | Who Cares Microsoft releasing Anti-Spyware is like the mod asking for protection payments. If IE did not have the security problems that is does spyware would not be as bad is it is. | |
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost
| Re: Who Cares said by GlenQuagmire :If IE did not have the security problems that is does spyware would not be as bad is it is. IE is not the only way spyware gets into a system. | |
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join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX
1 edit | Re: Who Cares It's the primary way. | |
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join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | Re: Who Cares No SOftware that Bundles Spyware is the Primary way.
See. Kazaa, Smiley downloads, this new exeem, AOL, weather bug etc. etc. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Who Cares Not in our family, and around a lot of places.
Most people have seen or heard their share of ad/spyware, and at least know that most free software comes at a price. The other part of the puzzle is the exploit/hijacking of a web brouser's bugs to get into the juicy part of the OS inside.
Ad/spyware riddled programs are at least advoidable. Browsing around (or having a family member/friend do it)...then suddenly puzzled w/ a diluge of pop-ups and home page rerouts is just damn annoying, and can happen to the best of us. | |
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost
| Re: Who Cares said by Lostintech :This Guy is like an internet explorer FREAK Damn straight. | |
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost | Re: Who Cares IE is too buggy, so you use Firefox?
ROFL, thanks for the excellent comedy.  | |
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Kompressor
Premium
join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA | IE is the most secure browser there is. The problem is, it's the most attacked. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Who Cares Backed up by the huge quantities of data, review, and code analysis! ...or, er...sorry, that's just your opinion. NM.
IE is the most popular browser there is, that is a proven fact. Being so, it is also the most attacked. Secure though...that really has yet to be proven. This is akin to the OS debates as to what is more secure or not as well. Alternatives (ie. Firefox, Macintosh, Opera, Unix, etc.) are out there, and also have their bugs too. However, most zombie breeders, adware income generators, etc. want the most bang for their buck, and target the widest audience for the best results.
I'd have to say that IE is no more secure than the alternatives out there, but you have temporary security now in using something not on the bandwagon. For browsing sites that are...erm, questionable at best, I have a specific "Security" account, in which I am a Limited User, and browse using Firefox. Now, if they can jump both of those hurdles and install still into my OS, that's damn impressive. | |
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GlenQuagmire
Giggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo
Premium
join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | Re: Who Cares What about ActiveX | |
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join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA
| Re: If anyone noticed That's really amusing. Who, not owning a legit copy of XP, is going to go out and spend $100-200 for a legit copy of XP in order to download a Spyware beta application?
Maybe they'll just offer those silly enough to try to validate a non-legit XP install an XPlite they are selling overseas for $99. | |
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AthlGrond
Collectivism Breeds Envy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO | Re: If anyone noticed I think Gates got it wrong, free culture advocates aren't communists they are just cheapskates!
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Smitedogg
Uzbekikitty
Premium
join:2000-11-11
Pueblo, CO
| Re: If anyone noticed said by AthlGrond :I think Gates got it wrong, free culture advocates aren't communists they are just cheapskates! We have our reasons:p
Dogg | |
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AthlGrond
Collectivism Breeds Envy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO | Re: If anyone noticed Because GNU is free you are a cheapskate? Seems like you would have more money to spend as a result. 
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ceocio
join:2004-04-16
Columbus, OH
| So, how does it compare to spybot S &D? So, how does it compare to spybot S &D?.
Guess I don't really need both to eat up my resource..
Looking for opinions from ppl who have actually tested both.. I know many think MS sucks in general, but let's hear some objective opinions regarding this particular product. thanks. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
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I think the Giant version did very very (surprisingly) well in Eric Howes' and others' tests. Although it throws a lot of false positives. You can search the security forum here for "Giant AntiSpyware".
Many people who tried it have stopped using it.
-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function | |
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| ceocio
join:2004-04-16
Columbus, OH | ok, i installed it. It found 4 threats. fixed 3 and messed up 1. It f*ked up my flashget install. well, given it's beta, it's stil acceptable.. Hope they'll fix it in official.. | |
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SirXILE
The SolWar 2-1
Premium
join:2001-02-24
Brooklyn, NY | Works good It does work good. Loads quick & catches some stuff Ad-Aware doesn't.
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There can only be one..."X.I.L.E" | |
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join:2001-05-21
Greenville, NC |  Re: Works good
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lfb001
join:2002-02-02
Framingham, MA | Giant Antispyware You have to uninstall Giant Antispyware to install MS Antispyware | |
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C_
Kill The Socialists
Premium
join:2001-03-19
| Re: Giant Antispyware said by lfb001 :You have to uninstall Giant Antispyware to install MS Antispyware considering they're pretty much the same product with a few minor changes
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"and no matter how drunk you get .. don't lick the wall socket to test polarity..." | |
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ogar
join:2001-12-05
Ephrata, PA
clubs:
| Nice Product with One Flaw It does not seem to scan 3rd party browsers. I did not catch any trackers or cookies that spybot caught in my Firefox browser. These where not questionable cokkies there cookies had, XXX, Tracker, Ad aware in the files name. Other then this flaw seems to work pretty good. | |
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join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | Re: Nice Product with One Flaw looking at pron eh? | |
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ogar
join:2001-12-05
Ephrata, PA
clubs: | Re: Nice Product with One Flaw Actually no I haven't proabbly got it from going to cracks.am | |
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mcfrisch
Revelare Pecunia
join:2000-07-02
Lakewood, OH
1 edit | Neither does Spybot S&D, AFAIK. | |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | Re: Nice Product with One Flaw Actually, Spybot does. | |
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Blocker3
@rr.com
| MS Anti-Spyware The BETA Version is free for the testing. After the 90 Day Trial, Microsoft will Charge a $99.00 Licensing fee, per year.
Updates will be available for a subscription fee of $45.00 per year, and will include any new variants of spyware.
This will only work on legitimate versions of the "Licensed" OS Software. | |
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laz45
join:2002-08-01
Orlando, FL
clubs: | Crack Somebody will crack it to get free updates | |
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DOStradamus
MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA | Re: Crack Somebody on crack will want updates. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| A howler! I was reading Bill Gates was presenting some sort of game in front of God, Country, and a room full of Techno-geeks.
at Lost Wages yesterday and instead of the game he got the Blue Screen of Death. I wonder who is going to get sent to the Falkland Islands MS Office because of this.
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Beggar Su
Drunken Master
Premium
join:2004-08-15
UK
| F/P Well it scanned and picked up McAfee AntiSpyware as a severe threat and should be removed immediately - lol and other false positives. I'm just going to stick with adaware and spybot and other tools.
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Jeffrey
Bye George, 1937-2008
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Huntington Station, NY
clubs: | Re: F/P Well, I tend to agree with the MS scanner on that issue. Anything McAfee is a severe threat. | |
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F14b0mbk4t
Walmart Is 73h L337 Yo'
Premium
join:2004-11-11
Above | Beta? No thanks I'll wait for the Alpha version. | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: Beta? No thanks beta comes after alpha in the software process. | |
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F14b0mbk4t
Walmart Is 73h L337 Yo'
Premium
join:2004-11-11
Above
| Oops, please excuse my misword. What I meant is that since it's beta it's still in the early stages. There might be a few bugs, perhaps big enough to ruin some software or programs running on your computer. I'll wait for more reviews before giving it a try.
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N Yazdi
join:2004-04-19
Omaha, NE | i like this product it found several instances of adware/spyware, a couple of which were high threat levels. It caught things that both Adaware and spybot missed. | |
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DOStradamus
MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA
|  It claims to smell a "RAT" or two. I differ..PUGH!
Like the cliche'd dimditted lab assistant, it lumbered off in search of vermin, not to my system partition (on P: ).. Thumbing through a Win98 setup I use occasionally BLAM! It said it found a "Remote Administration Tool" - C:\Windows\SYSTEM\sccrun.dll.. Odd.. it had same date as other DLL's from the Win98 release.. For "fun", I EXTRACTed a "fresh" sccrun.dll from my Win98 SE CD.. same file. Byte per byte.
It then let it loose on my system drive.. Likewise, another false positive in the Win2K Server Support tools...
It claims to have sniffed out 2 "RATs", I say "hoof hearted"! Giant flatulence. | |
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drkkgt
Boo
Premium
join:2003-08-26
Whittier, CA | Nice screens Seems pretty cool, although seems odd that they take all the time to change the logo, the name, and the menus, then still name the service GiantAntiSpywareMain. | |
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| yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | Re: Nice screens Yeah, I was just going to post that haha. | |
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OreoleO
Wanna Settle This Outside??
join:2004-05-22
Feasterville Trevose, PA | ... Anybody that's flaming this software, is stupid, it's called "beta" software, jeez. | |
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Derch
Premium
join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK | Re: ... But the release is Tuesday, flame on... | |
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DOStradamus
MVM
join:2003-11-04
Santa Rosa, CA
| A false positive on a garden variety document would be one thing, the same on a piece of, say Firefox, would be something of more noteworthyness. Finding spyware amongst the (virgin) ".DLLs" released with Ms Woid is unbelievable enough...
TWO false positives found among their released OS (Win98 SE and Win2K Server)!!! -- Get a reality!
Don't they test their stuff with their OWN SOFTWARE??
"Earth to Redmond... Earth to Redmond..." | |
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slimpickinz
join:2003-11-29
Conyers, GA | WTF... What is Spyware anyway? | |
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join:2000-06-21
East Peoria, IL | Re: ... I had a folder in my favorites called cracks and microsoft found it as a crackspider and deleted it,try it you will be amazed. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: ... Didn't delete mine! | |
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MS Anti-Spyware Released
Didn't know they where making one.
Re: Who Cares
