Re: No wonder
quote:You're doing exactly what they want you to do. Namely blame what is purely a price-hike on Uncle Sam, not the provider.
Am I happy? no. would i rather pay $1.50 and keep the gvnmt out of my voip than pay AT&T level fees & taxes?
It allows them to raise prices, advertise the old price, and make more money while you blame someone else for it.
The Regulatory Recovery Fee is not an official fee, and is not going to the USF, it's going right into their pockets.
| |DonLibesPremium,ExMod 2001
SunRocket has a good model That's what I like about SunRocket. Rather than quoting the cost *before* taxes and fees, they only quote the cost *after* taxes and fees. You can't hide bogus taxes, tariffs, surcharges, penalties, or whatever subterfuge you choose when your policy is always to show the bottom line in the advertising and bills.
Re: SunRocket has a good model Yes! That's right, demand the final price AFTER taxes before you begin service so you know exactly what your in for and paying, also read the fine print of any voip contract to see what the 'unlimtied' minutes REALLY stands for (is it 3,000 5,000, or skys the limit to the theoretical max? 60minutes times 24 hours, times 30 days?)
Which, if you do, you really need a life...
but the sunrocket model sounds the best, even at some piont if you have the price so low, it still beats many providers 2:1 on price
| |Logan 5Enjoying the CataclysmPremium,MVM
Re: this one is easy
said by ossito16: Why kill technology with promise just because you don't agree with their current billing practices??
Cancel your Voip services. Voip is way to new, and nobody is dependent on its technology yet. People can easily do without it. A small drop in revenue will kill a lot of startups.
That attitude reminds me of going deer hunting with a RPG Launcher.....Effective? Sure it is......Overkill....you betcha!!
There's better ways to address this issue (like stopping the fees at the source by making their collection illegal) then condemning a whole technology to "Cyber Genocide".
Fairfax Station, VA
said by hrobins:Actually, the Spanish American War:o...
The excise tax was put in place to pay for the Mexican/American war. Most telcos don't want to get rid of it because its money in their pocket.
Any they cry about being taxed...... You can't have it both ways.
Either stop charging the fee or be taxed AND regulated like a telco.
I was considering switching but not now. Just as bad as the normal telcos.
The Rise of 'Unfees' One good approach here is to refer it to the FCC, to perhaps scare them into backing down. Michael Powell, head of the FCC, has been making big noises about keeping VOIP in the largely-unregulated domain. Also, make noise to your congressmen and senators.
I received today from Lingo my notice that they will begin adding among other fees a 3% Federal Excise Tax. Now, if they collect a "fee" which they claim is a Federal tax, they will be legally obligated to pay that amount to the federal government.
I pay my Lingo bill through my AMEX credit card. I intend to contest the 3% claimed Federal Excise Tax through AMEX as an illegal charge to my credit card b/c there is no law AT THIS TIME that makes this a requirement for Lingo service. Join me in the effort.
| |SpitefulCrowInsert Witty Tag HerePremium
said by tparker1:That doesn't even make sense. It's the USER'S bandwidth that he's paying the ISP for. What's wrong with the user deciding to use some of his bandwidth to subscribe to a VoIP service?
I wasn't impressed with the VOIP quality anyway and it doesn't seem right to tap into Cable and use Bandwidth that doesn't belong to them to make money.
It's not run by the cable company? So what? This is why VoIP is able to compete with the telcos. Vonage doesn't have to build its own last-mile network because all it needs is an IP address. This is the way things work now. You pay for bandwidth and an IP and then you can run whatever services you like over it (as long as they don't violate your provider's ToS).
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Oh, the irony I'm surprised that no one has commented on the irony that the story preceding this one on the main page is about the states trying to tax voip. If it's not the businesses trying to take your money, it's the government (or both...).