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dslhater
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join:2001-09-24
Chicopee, MA
clubs: | Re: Quitting the Internet Like a drug addict they will be back lol | |
|  | kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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Manchester, NH
| Re: Quitting the Internet It's a little like giving up on the telephone because of telemarketers... how many of them will really leave?
On the other hand, maybe there'll be fewer spambots and virus-spewing boxen out there if more people unplug out of frustration.
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Wescomperson
@65.242.x.x | Re: Quitting the Internet What is ....Internet you said ?:D | |
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53059959
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PwnZone | THATS IT!!!! I QUIT!!! I just can't find the "any key" | |
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Rickez
Goinginsane
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Three Rivers, MA | Re: Quitting the Internet The internet? They have that on computers now? | |
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lupinia
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join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA | Re: Quitting the Internet OMG! They actually had to put that on their FAQ? Damn, the average intelligence of the internet has dropped another point  | |
| | | kdhamann
join:2003-11-08
Medina, OH | I put "ANY" on the spacebar of one of the computers at work...still gets a laugh every so often.  | |
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LesL
@sbc.com
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| There seems to be a false sense of security with users that have anti products installed. Many products that clean do not see everything. Just getting the latest updates is not enough. Each product sees items that the other does not. Those of you running one or two products should try another (even if its a trial version) just to see for yourself. | |
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
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Salem, OR | Re: Quitting the Internet (sarcasm) I use sneaker net, it is a lot faster than AOL (/sarcasm)
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mike1965
Geek4rent
join:2002-09-23
Marion, IL
| the problem is most casual users don't want to take the time to learn about their computer..orhave no one to show them.....they just want to point and click and be done
recently I made a house call for a 60 some year old woman she could not get her DSL connected (was full of spyware) i got her hooked back up...downloaded adaware and spybots and a good free antivirus and explained to her to scan with each and keep them updated...she was very happy and is now surfing with no problems
the other problem is computer retailers seem to just want to sell you a computer and make some $$$ and offer no education I mean how hard could it be to include a piece of paper explaining spyware and viruses for the novice user....
too simple i guess.so it will just keep me makin money 
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| | | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Quitting the Internet said by mike1965 :
the problem is most casual users don't want to take the time to learn about their computer..orhave no one to show them.....they just want to point and click and be done
recently I made a house call for a 60 some year old woman she could not get her DSL connected (was full of spyware) i got her hooked back up...downloaded adaware and spybots and a good free antivirus and explained to her to scan with each and keep them updated...she was very happy and is now surfing with no problems
the other problem is computer retailers seem to just want to sell you a computer and make some $$$ and offer no education I mean how hard could it be to include a piece of paper explaining spyware and viruses for the novice user....
too simple i guess.so it will just keep me makin money
This is, by far, one of the most intelligent things anyone has said about the whole issue of spam, spyware and the frustration most people have when dealing with the internet.
Look at the 2 parts I bold-ed. Most people fall into those categories.
Most of us here on BBR are NOT the typical user. We do this for a hobby, because it is our job, or just because we plain like it. We are not the majority when it comes to knowing about computers. I would venture to ask, even though most of us drive cars or trucks, do we really understand the inner working enough to repair it should it break down? | |
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@qwest.net
| i'm sure someone has posted something comparable to this but i don't care & i'm not going to take the time to find out. the general public never has been or ever will be ready for a personal computer let alone the Internet whether it be in their home or office. i hope the door doesn't kick them in the ass on the way out because i want to thank them for calling our toll-free numbers for computer support & keeping those of us that are literate employeed at multiple levels, (ka-ching). some people are just not cut out to point & click & make it happen. as we all know, the majority of computer/ Internet problems lie between the chair & keyboard. i have to say this...how in the hell can anyone just quit the Internet, i can understanding just quitting a job, that happens everyday but the Internet, that's just not cool. happy new year to all! | |
| mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ | Click, Dialtone Goodbye | |
| | mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ | Re: Click, Dialtone Nahh, I was just kidding.. I got rid of all that Microsloth crap and got a Powermac G5. POOF.. all my virii and spyware problems went away and never came back. | |
| | | electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | Re: Click, Dialtone ah yes "the computer for idiots... sorry parents." | |
| | | Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by mariolanning :Nahh, I was just kidding.. I got rid of all that Microsloth crap and got a Powermac G5. POOF.. all my virii and spyware problems went away and never came back. ...and later sets in the "I can't run anything" and "my computer blows up on the drop of a hat" blues.
Seriously though, Macs are a great solution for people who can't manage proper basic online etiquette. If not running every executable you find on the 'net, not clicking "Yes I want my Crapware!" buttons, etc. is too much, you deserve a Mac. | |
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Paladin
Sage of the light
join:2001-08-17
Chester, IL
 ·New Wave Communica..
2 edits | Re: Click, Dialtone Fallacy ad hominem. I've never had a problem with my Mac, and I do complex Unix tasks on it. Such BS...
Acutally, Mac users (at least the ones I know) can use Windows better than 95% of people on Windows, and have the highest level of online conduct that I've seen.
Sorry but I can't stand for a lie. Oh, and one more thing, you M$ apologists are becoming like the dinosaurs, so just keep your spyware and virii. Just don't pester those of us who have moved on... | |
| | | | | Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
1 edit | Re: Click, Dialtone said by Paladin :Fallacy ad hominem. I've never had a problem with my Mac, and I do complex Unix tasks on it. Until I find a Mac-friendly version of GTA2, I disagree.
said by Paladin :Acutally, Mac users (at least the ones I know) can use Windows better than 95% of people on Windows, and have the highest level of online conduct that I've seen. Heh, guess my site's just fulla idjits then. The whole "you closed the windows, not the application" seems to trip them up time and time again on the Mac OS. The second most common foul-up is not downloading the appropriate Mac version/replacement application for whatever their needs are. Quite often the desktops are riddled with XXXX.EXE, and they don't know why it isn't running.
Our "stupid Mac user tricks" list here rivals that of our "stupid Windows user tricks". Just because you feel your OS might be superior...stupid users are stupid users. They will crash UNIX, Linux, Mac, Windows, whatever stands in their way.
said by Paladin :Oh, and one more thing, you M$ apologists are becoming like the dinosaurs, so just keep your spyware and virii. I have AV, my software is up to date, and I have no problems. You want these idiots on your platform? Fine by us. | |
| | mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ
| Yeah, well.. at least on my mac I dont ever hafta spend a single minute installing any type of anti virii and 234567534 different versions of spyware removers to get rid of crap.. oh.. and the average cost of $19.95 you window suckers pay for this crap to secure the swiss cheese OS you have.. HAHAHAHHA.. As for the idiot that says that OSX is for dumb people.. I'd like to see you figure out the 20000 different unix commands that can do WAY WAY more than a windows machine.. grep is sooo much better than your windows searching tool that takes 4 hours to find a single file on your tattered NTFS file system which farts and blows chunks. As for the misinformed peple that think you cant use cross platform files, you should read up on stuff before you talk trash about it. | |
| | | Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Click, Dialtone said by mariolanning :oh.. and the average cost of $19.95 you window suckers pay for this crap to secure the swiss cheese OS you have.. HAHAHAHHA.. Funny, considering that AV is now free for Windows, PLUS we don't write Apple an extra $300-500 check for the hardware "privilege" of running Mac OS X. Very funny indeed.
said by mariolanning :As for the idiot that says that OSX is for dumb people. It is. Mac OS X is for a world drowning in wizards, system resource hogging super-flashy-fun-time GUI, and options left at a bare minimum, to lock down any chance an idiot might want to do something really technical. You want the full features of a program you're running, without having to delve through umpteen preventative pages of options? Try Windows.
said by mariolanning :As for the misinformed peple that think you cant use cross platform files, you should read up on stuff before you talk trash about it. Again, until Mac OS X can get my GTA2 to run, I disagree. (But I'm sure that not being able to play games is a "feature", right?) | |
| | | | jboyo
join:2004-06-10
North York, ON | IT's more like rocket science.... ....for some people. I think some of us would be surprised how difficult it is for somepeople to understand it's importance. Other's just dont like to learn new things.
Just a trend a lot of people have noticed Im sure. | |
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south1178
Buckeye Stangs
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join:2001-12-17
Cleveland, OH
clubs: | Re: IT's more like rocket science.... They will be back. | |
| sharksfan3
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join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY | Good! I hope more of these 'techless' people quit. That means less open spam relays. | |
| | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Good! said by sharksfan3 :I hope more of these 'techless' people quit. That means less open spam relays. Most of those open relays are by IT professionals who won't read the f%$#ing manual, not the casual user.  | |
| Trumpetguy01
join:2003-12-01
Davenport, IA | Don't let the door hit you... This is fine with me. Now maybe there will be less suckers out there. It is exactly these types of users who aid the spread of viruses and make spammers profitable. | |
| | mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ
| Re: Don't let the door hit you... Its not that I'm techless. LOL.. Its that MOST people on the internet dont have 12 hours a weeek to run all the updates, spyware removers, anti virii programs in triplacate to make sure every little new thing that came out THAT week was removed. Not to mention the agravation of the 20 reboots required when installing a hotfix or patch. | |
| | | electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON
| Re: Don't let the door hit you... IF you spend 12 hours a week doing that then you are doing something very wrong and are most definatly TECHLESS and commonsenseless.
I spend very little time on my PC at home as I spend 9+ hours on one at work.
Downloading and installing updates is all set to automatic, took a minute to do that. Plus with XP it is rare that the PC will need to reboot after. If it does its automatic.
Second if you have enough time to download pron and illicit music files + every other thing you can download then you have enough time to keep your AV and ASP up to date.
Third my AV and ASP run and update automatically in the wee hours in the morning, I scan the report at my leisure, takes a few minutes.
Finally I never ever have problems with my PC at home because I use it with commonsense. Thats all you need.
Could you imagine if when walking around downtown you took every free flier and item that was offered to you? So why would you do it on a computer? | |
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: Don't let the door hit you... said by exocet_cm :More bandwidth for me HEAR HEAR! | |
| electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON
| one sided This is a pretty one sided article. I mean What are thse people doing and downloading to get spyware?
Some spyware comes through IE but not very much, the really shitty stuff comes from P2P and those free smiley programs.
I bet these people feel the need to download every free product crammed in their face. | |
| | user_hater
join:2001-12-14
Tyler, TX | Re: one sided agreed, when i look at someones computer that is seriously infected with spy/ad/malware. the same list of programs is found on most of them, smiley this, weather that, accelerate whatnot, fileshare whynot.. and so on... | |
| | | six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA | Re: one sided I agree.....weather*, hotbar, searchbar, this bar, that bar, smileys, outlook, a lot of crap that looks neat but is a scourge. | |
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blablablabdgd
@chcgil.ameritech | ? More bandwidth for those who stay. | |
| six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA
·Comcast
1 edit | Who is really at fault though... Is it M$ for putting out swiss cheese for software? Is it Dell for selling it? Is it these people clicking yes to install comet cursor? Is it people downloading Kazaa and Gator without knowing just how BAD they are for their system? Is it people "unsubscribing" from the spam that asked them if they wanted to be a male pr0n star?
Sure you could say Linux is the answer. Sure you could say yes to the rest of it. People I talk to blame the virus/spyware/adware writers. I blame the folks that allow it. I blame the companies who leave holes in their systems that allow this. Just look at Mozilla, they find a hole in Firefox and it's patched a few days later. Find and IE hole and it's not fixed for weeks, months, or years.
I will partially blame M$ here. And I do that because of this fact. You CANNOT have an XP Home box secured. You are either User or Admin. Anyone else see something wrong with that? I had built a 2k box a few years ago for a buddy. I gave him power user rights with no registry editing access. He would keep getting Blaster to try to install but it could not. He recently got XP Home (without consulting me first) and asked if I could do the same thing. Reluctantly, I had to say no. There was no way to make him powerful enough to do a lot of things but not powerful enough to be dangerous. He was either God or a pee-on. What is with that logic? I could not restrict NTFS permissions, could not give him limited access without crippling him. That is pitiful if you ask me.
Additionally, I can say with confidence that my mom and dad, 62 and 72 respectively, have NEVER had a virus and NEVER had a big spyware infection other than the random tracking cookies. However, they have a home built box with all updates, a bit of security, anti-virus that is updated and they use Mozilla. They have never used Outlook. They are also on dial-up and their XP is fully updated. It can be done if properly set up. Now had they bought a Dell with all the crap on it.....I would bet a pitcher of beer on the fact that they would have some of this junk. Once my mom asked me about the smiley stuff she thought was neat. I told her NO WAY IN HELL DO YOU INSTALL THAT...besides it won't run with Mozilla mail and will only give you spyware.
It's all about education. And calling India does no good. What are they going to tell folks? Insert their restore disk and restart? Believe it or not, HP Indian support told me once that XP Pro would not run at all on a P4 2.8HT, 512, 160gb. Will not run??? Give me a freakin break!?!
People need to be educated. That begs to question, are they too lazy or is there no good way to learn? If someone comes to me, I'm sure I inevitably talk "geek speak" and they get lost. You can see the need for education both in this case and in the case of wireless networks. The latter is more a matter of RTFM, but still. How many "linksys" and "Netgear" SSID's are there because someone was too lazy to RTFM? How many spyware infections are because people don't RTF EULA? | |
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Logan 5
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join:2001-05-25
The WasteLAN
·Pacific Bell - SBC
3 edits | Why in the hell are these idiots Getting pissed off at Dell when it's their OWN fault for being clueless and not taking the proper responsibility for properly educating themselves on the workings of a modern PC... Ted's a moron.
said by LAtimes article:
But 2004 "was a real turning point in a bad direction," said technology analyst Ted Schadler of Forrester Research. "People are getting really angry. They're angry at Dell and Microsoft and their cable providers, and that's appropriate. They should be."
Anyone else also notice how much this article plays up the FUD angle?:
said by LAtimes:
Once a weakness in Windows is discovered by hackers, a virus can wreak havoc on millions of computers before Microsoft can offer a patch — which typical users may not take the initiative to download.
Looks like the LAtimes also picked two "old school" people for their article who only recently learned computers and don't really grasp the significance of what they're using and how to protect themselves:
said by article example #1:
Gerald Stark, 52, trained on computers in school and in the Navy before starting a small cleaning business in Lisbon Falls, Maine. A virus killed one machine. Then spyware infested the next one, wiping out a year's worth of receipt records.
Stark read five years' worth of computer magazines just to keep up with how to defend himself.
Even with two firewalls and antivirus and anti-spyware programs running, Stark stopped looking for new business deals online. He said he would buy only from places he had dealt with before, preferably in the physical world rather than the virtual one.
"I'm not letting my guard down again," Stark said. "Never."
..... I wonder if he ever heard of backing up his data??? If he's running 2 of everything(firewalls, AV & anti-spyware)it's no wonder he's still getting infected as he's guranteed to have mis-configured something or has a software conflict that's leaving him vulnerable.
said by article example #2:
Henry Stiegel didn't think he needed his guard up in the first place. Pressed by his stockbroker and friends, Stiegel got his first home computer in 2003.
"I thought it was going to be like a television set — I'm going to sit right in front of it all day and have some control and learn things, scan for airfare and travel," the former Grumman Aerospace Corp. engineer said from Homosassa, Fla.
Even after studying in computing classes, the 77-year-old Stiegel was swamped by hundreds of viruses, other malicious programs and pop-ups.
"I still have windows I can't delete when I want to get rid of them. When I send an e-mail, I get interrupted and have to start all over," Stiegel said. "I have actually pulled the plug out of the wall so I could reboot."
..... Sounds like he's using an unpatched Windows 9.x machine (there was a problem with W98 & W98se and rebooting/shutting down the computer) if he had to remove the power cord. Another example of someone not understanding what it is they're using, because if he did, he'd be using XP
A navy trained computer operator and an engineer from Grumman who are both retired and can't properly operate computers then blame others for their ignorance....does this bother anyone else to read this garbage??? You would think that they would have better critical thinking skills then the rest of us, but apparently not even close.
The worst part is that someone who actually knows WTF they're talking about in the article, gets the least amount of space:
said by LAtimes article:
"The part that worries me most is the tremendous amount of money that can be made by tricking people into installing junk on their computers," said Ben Edelman, a Harvard graduate student who has testified against spyware companies. "It's a great business."
And last, this quote from a representative of the FTC seems to sum up the Governments thoughts on and their current approach to solving the Malware problem:
said by a clueless moron:
Enacting new federal bills "would be helpful," said Lydia Parnes, acting director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. Spyware "needs to be understandable to consumers, and it needs to be presented in a way that's kind of visible to them."
If this is the direction being taken by people in a position to do something positive about these issues then we have all just had our worst fears about this justified and brought to light....
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| N Yazdi
join:2004-04-19
Omaha, NE
| internet problems I am a windows xp user with a fully patched/updated system running a software firewall, antivirus, NAT router, and several antispyware programs. I have not had the problem some of these people are complaining about. I download music occasionally and look at porn sites but have never had a virus or browser hijacked. Furthermore the rates of spy/ad ware on my computer has been almost nonexistent. Even surfing wares sites I have only come across trojans twice. What are people doing that they have so many problems? | |
| | the niTz
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join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ | Re: internet problems yep same here lots of attempts but nod avg and mr firewall all stop that | |
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
Premium
join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
| The same exact thing you are doing but with the following differences;
Software firewall is not installed
A router with the NAT disabled, poorly configured, or better yet don't even have a router at all becuase it is the only computer in the household.
XP is not fully patched and updated as well as the antivirus program.
One, maybe two antispyware programs that like thier XP and antivirus programs is not fully up to date.
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| joewho
Premium
join:2004-08-20
Las Vegas, NV | innocent We are a long way from the days when people innocently turned on the computer and the dern thang just worked. | |
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rstrandb
Premium
join:2003-04-17
Albany, GA
·Mediacom
| Funny to me The guy in the article was complaining about the porn pop-up ads he was getting.....then the son went off to college. Hmmmmm, ever wonder who was visiting those type sites to get that spyware? I know, what about you?
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| xm4yh3mx
join:2005-01-11
Princeton, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
·EarthLink
| ya right!!! lies nothing but lies from la times
"...pop-up ads from a piece of spyware he couldn't wipe out spewed sexually explicit images..."
hmm i wonder what kinda sites he went 2 lol. i bet he surfed too many low-end porn sites if you know what i mean..
"Then her daughter went on the Internet to research a paper on the issue of breast-feeding in public..."
yea right that's a good excuse ill remember to use when im on my mom's computer. you know she was just pleasuring herself...bad bad girl
how hard is it to install adaware? | |
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lesl
@sbc.com |  Re: ya right!!! lies nothing but lies
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| jlsand
join:2001-04-19
Portland, OR | stupid people I'm willing to bet these people who are quitting the internet are Bush voters... Just my opinion. | |
| | N Yazdi
join:2004-04-19
Omaha, NE | Re: stupid people lol | |
| | N Yazdi
join:2004-04-19
Omaha, NE
| a funny thing about that... i was setting up my grandparents computer, both of them are fanatic republicans, and my grandfather got upset when i put zonealarm and antispyware programs on his computer, i tried explaining internet security and his response was "take all that junk off of my computer, i dont care about internet privacy i just want to surf the web"...unbelievable! | |
| | six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA
·Comcast
| It's not always just straight up stupidity. Sometimes it is logic that screws people over.
Conventional wisdom would tell you that if you "unsubscribe" then you would be rid of spam. After all, you tell a telemarketer that you don't want calls, they take you off the list. You tell a salesperson to quit bugging you and he does. So why not tell a spammer trying to sell you hot girls or viagra that you're not interested? People don't think like those scumbags.
I talked to a couple people at work today about this. I'm looking for a good spam filter, btw. I have my eye on the Barracuda appliance, oh please powers that be give me the money. Anyhow, the folks I talked to were "unsubscribing" because they knew no better. They never even thought that they were making the problem worse. When I explained to them that all they were doing by replying was verifying them as a real address and making themselves worth money, they cringed. They could not believe it. They truly thought they were doing the right thing. Stupidity or being naive? Hmmmmm. | |
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GilbertMark
Premium
join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ
·Cox HSI
| wow Should have bought a mac. I'm glad to see these people are taking their zombied computers off the internet, less garbage that way. I've never had any of these problems. I can't believe people just accept it and put up with it as standard behavior. Get a book and learn about or get rid of your computer. | |
| xm4yh3mx
join:2005-01-11
Princeton, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
·EarthLink
| ya yea bush voters are kinda backwards retarded middle age mentality christian fanatic freaks but anyway... yes i do have another program that detects a few spywares that adaware doesnt. i have 3 spyware programs 1 provided by earthlink, adaware, and spydoctor. as for viruses i never got any xept when i downloaded malicious files on p2p by accident. | |
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA | OMG 1 QU1T0RS!!1111!! LOLWTFHAX0RSMYG0TM3!!111!! | |
| JPCass
join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| Dealing with a couple of realities A lot of everyday computer users - exactly the sort of people who aren't represented in a technical forum like this - are really struggling with technical issues, and even to keep their computers running. Many don't want to be bothered with too much learning and upkeep, and others probably don't have the particular aptitude to be educated into savvy computer users. Some need just basic internet, e-mail, and word processing, and others want some multimedia features like the ability to make music CDs, but not necessarily all of the bells and whistles that come with Windows - and bring in its vulnerabilities.
The slowdown in growth of internet commerce is a really interesting issue. Is it more a sign of general slow spending, a saturation point being reached in online commerce, or real user hesitance because of security issues? If it is really related to security problems, there is likely to be a lot of lobbying by business interests to come up with solutions.
I'm curious as to what is going to provide a solution that is attractive to average users. Microsoft has taken some steps with XP SP2 including a firewall and locking Windows down more tightly be default, automatic updates, and more recently by acquiring their own anti-spyware utility. Mac doesn't seem to be having too much success appealing to these sort of users, in spite of lessened vulnerability, perhaps because of its premium pricing, and perceptions that a lot of software doesn't run on it. And Linux doesn't seem to have succeeded in making itself attractive as a utilitarian option for basic users, though it would seem to have a lot to offer in terms of being an inexpensive option providing basic features and greater security.
What would make a good choice or alternative for a lot of casual users? A very locked-down version of Windows? A really comprehensive security program that could be operated in a very locked-down mode, and able to warn users of dangerous links in e-mail and other threats? An attractively marketed version of Linux, with basic internet and e-mail, and a Word-compatible word processor, and user-friendly enough to compete with the perceived ease of use of Windows? The old ISP as ASP model, where users would have a dumb terminal or only a little more, and connect to servers running software maintained by someone else? (Web-based e-mail has elements of this approach) Or is increased security only going to come through tougher enforcement, improved internet and e-mail protocols, and perhaps some hardware solutions, none of which seem to be emerging quickly enough to address the threats? | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Both papers owned by Tribune Company Since both the Chicago Tribune and the LA Times are owned by the Tribune Company, it seems the real problem here is that they aren't exchanging info between their papers fast enough. Maybe they are short of bandwidth between their offices?
We can probably soon see this popping up at other Tribune rags, including NY Newsday, The Baltimore Sun, The Orlando Sentinel and some lesser lights in the northeast.
Paper chains sometimes do this with a story they think might get "legs"--they'll run it in one paper, and if it isn't jumped on by a bunch of media giving them credit (for cr*p, in some cases, including this one) then they'll wait a few days or weeks and run it up the flagpole somewhere else. It's sort of like taking a house that hasn't sold off the market for a while, and then dropping it back in as a "fresh" offering....
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Jerm
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Richland, WA | Thanks calvioper You have the first worthwhile comment on this whole thread. Congrats. | |
| the niTz
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Sahuarita, AZ
·Cox HSI
| :D ALL UR BANDWIDTH ARE BELONG TO US
now back to the topic, these people need to hire there local nerdz to get them back on track with a fresh install a free copy of avg, and a firewall along with a security redo and give these ppl pwer users and set the registry permissions and ntfs permissions to tight along with auto updates and reboots after updates at a certain time they wont have a prob anymore and pay the kid some more and he'll teach u how to use ur os:p | |
| | Gundam_Toon
join:2004-09-03
Noblesville, IN | Re: :D I agree. The person is smart and aware but people are idiots and panic | |
| | | hskrfan23
join:2004-03-18
West Sacramento, CA | Re: :D uhh, thanks K | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Re: :D Another way of looking at this is by drawing an analogy to the early days of the automobile.
Some people tried to drive, but gave up--usually after scaring the living daylights out of themselves or someone else. They then relied on others to drive for them, or attempted to avoid the effects of "progress" by continuing to use horses.
Eventually, driving became "standard", and even taught in schools. Realistically, PC usage has probably already passed that point--but we don't see newspapers running stupid stories about people "abandoning the auto", even though some people do choose not to drive--usually when living in congested/dense areas.
Yes, sometimes you'll see a profile piece or article about city-dwellers who don't own cars, but without the "chicken little" aspect of these stories blaming it all on horror tales of carjackings (viruses), expressway ramp beggars (popups), or windshield leaflets (spam).
calvoiper
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