  MikePremium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA |  Good Jorb!
Firefox runs on anything.
biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050125/sftu069_1.html close enough | |
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 |  exocet_cmBuckle up, it's the lawPremium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2 | Re: Good Jorb! lol | |
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|  keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB
1 edit | Here is what Mozilla says it is compatible with, which means it might run on something else, and you might want to try that on your own PC, but you don't want to be a company saying it will.
»www.mozilla.org/products/firefox···nts.html
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Firefox System Requirements
Windows
Operating Systems
* Windows 98
* Windows 98SE
* Windows ME
* Windows NT 4.0
* Windows 2000
* Windows XP (Recommended)
* Windows Server 2003
Minimum Hardware
* Pentium 233 MHz (Recommended: Pentium 500MHz or greater)
* 64 MB RAM (Recommended: 128 MB RAM or greater)
* 52 MB hard drive space
Linux
Software Requirements
Please note that Linux distributors may provide packages for your distribution which have different requirements.
* Linux kernel - 2.2.14 or higher with the following libraries or packages:
o glibc 2.3.2 or higher
o XFree86-3.3.6 or higher
o gtk+2.0 or higher
o fontconfig (also known as xft)
o libstdc++5
* Firefox has been tested on Red Hat Linux 8.0 and later
Minimum Hardware
* Intel Pentium II or AMD K6-III+ 233 MHz CPU (Recommended: 500MHz or greater)
* 64 MB RAM (Recommended: 128 MB RAM or greater)
* 52 MB hard drive space
Mac
Operating Systems
* Mac OS X 10.1.x
* Mac OS X 10.2.x and later
Minimum Hardware
* PowerPC 604e 266 MHz (Recommended: PowerPC G4 667MHz or greater)
* G3, G4, 64 MB RAM (Recommended: 256 MB RAM or greater)
* 72 MB hard drive space
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| | BPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Re: Good Jorb! Actually, Mozilla (and by extension SpeakEasy) is lying.
I don't think it will run on Windows 98 UNLESS you significantly upgrade Internet Explorer! We've had one or two threads about it, but in short, the Fireweasel depends on a component that is ordinarily supplied ONLY with an Internet Explorer upgrade.
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| | |  dleehendHowdyPremium
join:2002-03-11
Malvern, AR | Re: Good Jorb! That is very interesting.
I have 7 computers here at the house using firefox without any IE updates at all. In fact the first thing I do once I install from my win98se full install disk is install firefox so I can use it to search for any updated drivers.
I have had no problems at all.
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join:2000-10-28 | Re: Good Jorb! said by dleehend:That is very interesting. I have 7 computers here at the house using firefox without any IE updates at all. In fact the first thing I do once I install from my win98se full install disk is install firefox so I can use it to search for any updated drivers. I have had no problems at all. Yes, because SE, I imagine, has the required component. Windows 98 does not.
It's a minor quibble, EXCEPT when you try installing on a new Windows 98 installation (by ftp or CD) without having to touch IE. I've tried.
Note: They may have fixed this in the last few releases, but I doubt it.
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| | | | | | | Re: Good Jorb! said by B: Yes, because SE, I imagine, has the required component. Windows 98 does not. It's a minor quibble, EXCEPT when you try installing on a new Windows 98 installation (by ftp or CD) without having to touch IE. I've tried. Note: They may have fixed this in the last few releases, but I doubt it. -- B It might be assumed that running an older non-updated IE might be like looking for a hooker at the AIDS clinic. Kinda dangerous, wouldn't you agree? | |
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join:2000-10-28 | Re: Good Jorb!
That's the point. I wasn't RUNNING it at all, and had no intention to, which was exactly why I was trying to install the Weasel.
Anyway, I generally find myself happier with the real Mozilla suite.
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| | |  Denjin
join:2001-01-18
Schaumburg, IL | Bollocks.
said by B:Actually, Mozilla (and by extension SpeakEasy) is lying. I don't think it will run on Windows 98 UNLESS you significantly upgrade Internet Explorer! We've had one or two threads about it, but in short, the Fireweasel depends on a component that is ordinarily supplied ONLY with an Internet Explorer upgrade. -- B
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| | |  muzscmanMr. PresidentPremium,VIP
join:2002-02-15
Florissant, MO
kudos:3 | then what about linux?? i use it on my linux box and it requires nothing to do with IE on that box. i guess it could use a file from mozilla then....
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| | | | BPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Re: Good Jorb!It's a Windows issue; the developers of the Windows port relied too heavily on specific Microsoft DLLs.
Last discussion at DSLR starts at the bottom of the page at »CWS = The most dangerous program...
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join:2000-10-28
1 edit | Re: Good Jorb! Then you've either had significant updates to Win95, or installed DCOM ( »www.microsoft.com/com/default.mspx ), or else you know something developer Ben Goodger DOESN'T know, because he admits to the Firefox problem, and to the corresponding FALSE system requirements, right on page two of that thread:
Yeah we show that dialog on clean Windows 98 systems too... I think you need a few service packs or another app that includes the right version of the dlls. We will get around to fixing this bug eventually so you don't have to do that. »forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic···start=15
So maybe they've fixed it by now. But I kind of doubt it. They've been too busy raising money for strange "NY Times ads" and getting hired by Google to actually work on the program.
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| |  reub2000Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | LOL @ Linux Requirements
Not even debain stable is still running linux 2.2.14 nor XFree86. If your running a linux system that barely meets the linux requiremnets, you need to upgrade your OS. | |
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 LostintechPhillydudePremium
join:2004-11-21
Philadelphia, PA | Go speakeasy WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO whowhowho firefox Is such a better browser than I.E. because of security flaw's and I mean like every day there is a new security flaw discovered and I bet that speakeasy will get less calles That "page not found crap" So there for less tech support people=mor profit GO SPEAKEASY NO MORE I.E.
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| | | Re: Go speakeasy Wow I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek humor, or if this guy really is stupid.... | |
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| | | | Re: Go speakeasy said by MalakoPlus:Wow I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek humor, or if this guy really is stupid.... dunno, but his heart is in the right place. | |
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| LostintechPhillydudePremium
join:2004-11-21
Philadelphia, PA | What is that supposed to | |
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| LostintechPhillydudePremium
join:2004-11-21
Philadelphia, PA | Mean | |
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| |  pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | Re: Go speakeasy Don't ask us. You're the one who wrote it. | |
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 TrueAudio192khzPremium
join:2002-02-24
Richmond, CA | Figures.. So in essence they will be just adding "their" bloat to a different browser then IE. Big freakin deal.. wait.. lemme get the phone and call and order. This is a deal i cant refuse! Pffft! | |
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| | Cool Sounds like a good idea. Its in their interest to provide their customers with a superior and trouble free browsing experience. Its also in their and their customers interest to reduce IEs dominance, as more diversity makes it harder for viruses and malware to be successful. | |
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|  KnappPremium
join:2004-02-14
San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: Cool I think this guy has the right idea (just needs to register . I like Firefox, ive used it since it was called firebird. I'm wearing my firefox shirt right now! I think this will be some healthy competiton for IE, and give both the initiative to make us, the user, happy. I think its great what Speakeasy is doing, maybe this will get companies and webmasters to make their websites FF compatible. I'm anxious to see whats to come of this browser battle. | |
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| |  nyr9
join:2000-12-14
Hopewell Junction, NY | Re: Cool I agree that competition will bring out the best in I.E and firefox or other browsers. In the end we users will reap the spoils of this browser war.
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| | Yea Babby That's what I'm talking about.
When i get capped by optonline again I'll give speak easy a serious look. | |
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|  Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA | Regardless... Regardless if i use IE or something else, if the browser works for me and i'm happy with it. Who cares what browser people use? | |
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| |  banditws6Shrinking Time and DistancePremium
join:2001-08-18
Frisco, TX | Re: Regardless... As a website designer, it's my job to care. | |
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| | | Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA | Re: Regardless... From your POV, i see your point | |
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keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB | Moving too fast? I agree it is good to see ISPs promoting browser alternatives. I'm using FF with just a few of its most popular extensions. I don't know if it "appears" bug free enough for newbies yet.
There are its own little bugs.
Then there is the Catch 22 of not enough websites being tested and tweaked for it. Of course that won't happen until a the percentage of site visitors using FF reaches some management set threshold.
I think it might be better if ISPs start by adding links to FF, Netscape and Opera on their support pages, to endorse them so more computer literate people switch to an MSIE alternative.
Defaulting to installing them, even if not setting them to be the default browser, is a courageous step.
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|  CPMBroadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Moving too fast? Well I am kinda a bi Browser user. I go both ways using IE and FF. Depending where I am surfing. | |
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| |  JLElsonMy Drinking Team Has A Racing ProblemPremium
join:2001-01-19
Kokomo, IN | Re: Moving too fast? I use FF as my Main Browser here----I Love FF----so much better than IE by far...I use IE as a (Back-up):D IMHO here--FF knock's the $hit out of IE!:D
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| | |  drkkgtBooPremium
join:2003-08-26
Whittier, CA | Re: Moving too fast? Don't forget to get the two coolest extensions, IE view and firefox view.
They let you right click on a page within one browser and open it in the other. Need to go to microsoft from FF, right click and open in IE, see a link on microsoft.com to go outside of ms, right click in IE and open link in FF.
Very nice for anyone who switches back and forth. Very handy if a page renders funny in FF (fix your code people, stop using FrontPage) so you need to open it in IE.
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Newegg
join:2004-11-14
Lawrenceville, GA | FF is slow Right now I'm not limited by how fast my ISP is, I'm limited by how fast my browser is. Cant use IE... | |
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| KnappPremium
join:2004-02-14
San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: FF is slow I'm not sure this makes sense... | |
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| | KnappPremium
join:2004-02-14
San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: FF is slow I don't really even notice the full page load limitation. A co-worker of mine was talking about it, I didn't even notice it. Whats the big fuss? | |
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| LostintechPhillydudePremium
join:2004-11-21
Philadelphia, PA | Yeah relly this is Firefox and it's going slow but I.E. is even slower. And by the way My I.S.P. is having D.N.S. issues
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| | will this make a difference? I'd think that a customer who uses Speakeasy as opposed to their local telco or cabler offerings would be more technically savvy, and already much more inclined to use Firefox. This would be a bigger deal if Verizon or AOL was shipping Firefox with their products. | |
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| | | Re: Wippieeee Nothing bloated about it. Most likely it's the same as it was back in the Netscape/IE days where ISP's gave you an option to install one or the other. My guess is the disk you get with the ISP is doing just that. Nothing wrong with a company giving you more options. Better than being forced to use just one product. | |
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| | Support.. Hope they are giving their support staff training on it...But know most ISPs they will give their staff a one sheet print out and say "have at it". | |
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| | Good news for ignorant customers.... Most people who use the Internet are unaware of the dangers and all the spyware out there. Giving them a more secure browser should help them a bit.
I love FireFox and Opera which are the only 2 browsers I have really used since 2002.
Better features and good pop up blocker unlike IE or IE in SP2 service which sucked badly. | |
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| | | Re: Good news for ignorant customers.... Mozilla won't stop spyware.
AS long as there is weatherbug and kazaa and all those other apps that bundle spyware it won't stop. | |
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| |  Defiance82Computer ElitePremium
join:2002-09-11
Rochester, WI | Re: Good news for ignorant customers.... I could careless about them adding it to my CD ROM. In fact my install cd it on the disk. Never installed it and don't tend to. Still to many bugs that need to be worked out. | |
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