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Debate mirrors our own
(old news - 02:00PM Thursday Feb 03 2005)
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The same interference debate that rages over the future of broadband over powerlines (BPL) here in the States, also rages in Australia. PCWorld notes how the debate is almost a mirror image, with amateur and emergency radio operators warning that the ongoing trials pose a significant risk, and BPL advocates pushing forward anyway.

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  5. IBM Hopes To Reach 200k Customers With BPL
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  7. Powerline Broadband Just Won't Die
  8. New Docs Show FCC Glossed Over BPL Flaws
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netwire
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Umm..

Do these people pushing for BPL not care about the lives of those who will use their service? We already know what it can do to emergency communications, and some of the things we enjoy today (like radio, sat.).
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone

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PwnZone

Re: Umm..

by the time we actually get bpl... we'll all have fiber. I still dont like ham radio. anything with the word "ham" in it should die.

guitarzan
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Skytop, PA
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Re: Umm..

maybe 'ham' radio dont like you .Hopefully bpl will die out in the face of fiber rollouts.I dont want any broadband with bpl attached to it.Hurry up fiber

rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

said by 53059959 See Profile:

anything with the word "ham" in it should die.
New Hampshire? Hamlet? MC Hammer?
hrobins
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join:2000-10-15
Regina, SK
clubs:

Say that when your left with no other form of commucation.
I find that people who what ham radio to die, are the ones that know nothing about it.

So before you want something to die, I dare you to go to a ham radio club meeting and find out what all my fellow Ham Radio operators do for the community. In my home state of Georgia, they allow ham radio operators to get their tag with their radio call for free. The reason why they do this is because Ham Radio operators do so much for the state, and do it for free. So I put it to you again, go to a ham club meeting and then tell say you want something to die.
I will be happy to give you a list of clubs in Vienna, Va.

Name: VIENNA WIRELESS SOCIETY
Specialties: General Interest, Contest, DX, Repeater, Digital Modes, School/Youth, Public Service/Emergency Comms, VHF/UHF
Call sign: K4HTA
Services: Help for newcomers, Entry-level classes, RFI help, Other
Address: PO BOX 418
VIENNA, VA 22183-0418
Contact: PETER L NORLOFF, KG4OJT
Phone: (703) 255-0711 (D)
Web: »www.viennawireless.org
E-mail: cq2004@viennawireless.org

Howard Robinson
KG4GSN/VE5GSN
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join:2003-07-16
Longmont, CO

Re: Umm..

Don't waste your time and knowledge on this puny gaming punk.
He will never even go and check it out. After all downloading his pxrn and games is what's more important. These are the kinds of people that promote and support things like BPL no matter what damage it causes. When there is an emergency in his area, he will be the first one to cry out "is there a ham around?" But we would still help him regardless of his pros and cons. Perhaps he should put a sign in his front yard saying "hams stay out" then he will get no help from us when it counts.
jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

said by netwire:
Do these people pushing for BPL not care about the lives of those who will use their service? We already know what it can do to emergency communications, and some of the things we enjoy today (like radio, sat.).
We should ask the FCC that question... they are the idiots who endorsed it in the states. Glad Powell retired to promptly!

Transmaster
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Cheyenne, WY
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Oh hum

Reply #1: Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, BPL is the evil spawn of satan.

Reply #2: Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, Broadband in every pot, a 100,000,000,000,000 gbps connection so Blah!
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AtomicZero

join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL

Re: Oh hum

said by Transmaster See Profile:

Reply #1: Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, BPL is the evil spawn of satan.

Reply #2: Blab-Blah-Blah, Blab-Blah-Blah, Broadband in every pot, a 100,000,000,000,000 gbps connection so Blah!
Not unless....100011100100111001, 1101000101 even if 000101100! So 01110010010 right back at ya!

orion940
Paralyzed By Confusion
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Windsor, CT

It hasn't worked yet...why should it now?

I haven't seen ANYTHING that says BPL is viable given the current technology. Maybe it's time to re-think all this??

O.

linicx
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United State
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Doing It The Hard Way

When there is a true emergency such as the power grid failure or 9/11, and the radio Hams can't interface with each other to bring emergency help where it is needed most, the BPL will have learned a bitter lesson at the expense of human life. The opposing sides need to work together to implement a fail safe solution that meet the needs of all.

Greed only serves itself.

PS: When phone lines and power lines are down cell phones don't work. Hams do not need either one to communicate, but they do need space .
Goldengamego
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Okemos, MI


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Re: Doing It The Hard Way

said by linicx See Profile:

When there is a true emergency such as the power grid failure or 9/11, and the radio Hams can't interface with each other to bring emergency help where it is needed most, the BPL will have learned a bitter lesson at the expense of human life. The opposing sides need to work together to implement a fail safe solution that meet the needs of all.

Greed only serves itself.

PS: When phone lines and power lines are down cell phones don't work. Hams do not need either one to communicate, but they do need space .
Before some idiot posts "power lines being down brings BPL down".

It won't matter if the area they are tring to talk to also has BPL.
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memyselfneye

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Re: Doing It The Hard Way

But also in events like those listed above... YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO GET HELP FROM PEOPLE HALF WAY AROUND THE WORLD... Only those that are located within a few miles of the emergency... So, most likely, those same people that you are trying to get in contact with are also affected by the emergency AND THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE POWER... Bottom line, you will be able to talk to them...

Goldengamego
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Re: Doing It The Hard Way

said by memyselfneye:

But also in events like those listed above... YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO GET HELP FROM PEOPLE HALF WAY AROUND THE WORLD... Only those that are located within a few miles of the emergency... So, most likely, those same people that you are trying to get in contact with are also affected by the emergency AND THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE POWER... Bottom line, you will be able to talk to them...

Just what the hell are they going to do? The point is to get in touch with those that can actually help you...
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Goldengamego
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Okemos, MI

said by memyselfneye:

YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO GET HELP FROM PEOPLE HALF WAY AROUND THE WORLD...
What about the Tsunami? Their wasn't anyone within thousands of miles that could help.
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memyselfneye

@Dial1.Cin

Re: Doing It The Hard Way

It's not like the HAMS were the first to know about it... Christ, there were rescue services there immediately...
Goldengamego
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Okemos, MI

Re: Doing It The Hard Way

said by memyselfneye:

It's not like the HAMS were the first to know about it... Christ, there were rescue services there immediately...
Untrue, there were several very remote areas (read no roads, no phones, no medical services) that took some time to reach. If it wasn't for the HAM operators the rescue services would have had no information as to the situation and would have arrived unprepared.
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Bryan001
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Saint Louis, MO

Recent example

Weren't Hams used when the tsunami hit?
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NathanKF4TZO

@cox.net

Re: Recent example

yes they were used during the tsunami... »www.voanews.com/english/2005-01-05-voa24.cfm

being a network adminisrator and HAM myself, i dont like BPL, good invention but will not work, too much RFI.
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