 belawrenceThey'll never let you in join:2000-08-06 Santee, CA | Wouldn't work for my house - we easily go through 5GB in 2 to 3 days on a slow week, and it's only going to get worse once content providers insist on all "my" content being streamed from the cloud. | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | LTE coverage areas w sat only now could be growth area
In areas where currently satellite is the only option, but that can, or soon will, get LTE coverage, this could be a very nice growth area for cell carriers. | |
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| Re: LTE coverage areas w sat only now could be growth area said by jjeffeory:Not with the caps in place. Wrong. Even with "low" caps, LTE is quite preferable to satellite. And a residential fixed-LTE package will certainly have more generous caps or throttling. | |
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| Re: LTE coverage areas w sat only now could be growth area said by elray:And a residential fixed-LTE package will certainly have more generous caps or throttling. LOL
Why in the world would they do that? | |
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| Re: LTE coverage areas w sat only now could be growth area said by DataRiker:said by elray:And a residential fixed-LTE package will certainly have more generous caps or throttling. LOL Why in the world would they do that? Because they can, and they want the business. | |
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Or are you just making stuff up? ( this is my guess ) | |
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 vpokoPremium join:2003-07-03 Boston, MA | Oy Very clever use of that picture... again. | |
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 BiggA join:2005-11-23 EARTH Reviews:
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| Fishy This seems a little fishy. Maybe at a vacation home or something, but basic usage for two relatively un tech-saavy people is 10GB/mo, so any household staying under the cap is a pretty far-fetched idea, unless they simply have no other option (even 1.5mbps DSL). | |
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it always turns out to be expensive, too slow, and with a cap way too low. so why do my customers get it?
because its no contract prepaid and they can't get cable or DSL without higher up front cost and large deposit if at all. all because they did not pass the credit check.
but people are also moving quickly from using a usb dongle to tethering from smartphones. | |
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 |  | | Re: it about the credit checks i want add one other reason some people use mobile broadband.
i notice many non tech savvy people perceive a single dongle in a USB port as 'simpler' than dealing with a DSL/cable modem + router + computer settings. they want less devices, power blocks and cable clutter. for these people the self installing USB dongle is easier to setup and maintain.
the first time i heard this i was a bit surprised but hear it several times a week lately. | |
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 |  BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:2 Reviews:
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| I was tethering in the early days of mobile internet, my mobile internet cost the same or less, it was faster than dial-up, not quite dsl, and it worked where my phone was. All I had to do was use my phone as a modem, bluetooth, or usb, and dial a code. The carriers changed this behavior, and started making people pay more for it, or charging for tethering even if they had the same data caps. It's just ridiculous to charge for, or prevent tethering with data caps.
I used to get unlimited mobile data for $10 then they started charging $20 for it, then as it got faster they charged $30, or more for it, putting caps on it. Even for $20 the mobile internet was good until they put very low caps on it, and preventing tethering. -- I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires- Susan B. Anthony Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent out necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G. | |
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 FronkmanAn Apple a day keeps the doctor awayPremium join:2003-06-23 Saint Louis, MO | so what people also buy celine dion and justin beiber albums. just because people do something doesn't mean it is a good idea... -- Everyone should own a Mac! Go Bucks! | |
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 |  mogamer join:2011-04-20 Royal Oak, MI | Re: so what said by Fronkman:people also buy celine dion and justin beiber albums. just because people do something doesn't mean it is a good idea... +1 | |
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| DSL upgrades With about 10 years of dsl service at the same location, I have experienced exactly ZERO days when my service was upgraded. Friends on cable have seen many upgrades, others with fixed wireless service have seen upgrades, people with cell phones and data have seen upgrades.
It's not light users ditching dsl, it's people that see it being the same over many years getting something that is moving forward. The people not ditching dsl are the ones stuck with it and no other better or cheaper options.
Short sighted people run dsl companies, so the customer that calls the business on the phone 3 times or less every 10 years (yes that is true) is just extra gravy for them and not a target for better service apparently which is probably 75% or more of all long term dsl customers. -- Say no to JAMS! | |
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 |  TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium join:2000-11-08 Da Bronx Reviews:
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| Re: DSL upgrades said by firephoto:With about 10 years of dsl service at the same location, I have experienced exactly ZERO days when my service was upgraded. ..... [...] The people not ditching dsl are the ones stuck with it and no other better or cheaper options. I agree! After years on Verizon DSL, the service actually degraded due to aging copper and Verizon's unwillingness to replace it. DSL was the only option where I live until ClearWire appeared. I dumped my 1Mb DSL, which struggled to get 760Kbps for WiMax. I now see 8 to 10 Mbps, UNLIMITED data (I consumed over 60 GB last month).
I am wireless now, and loving it. It's the first real Broadband I have ever had!
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 amungusPremium join:2004-11-26 America Reviews:
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| no choice Count my parents amongst those who have no other choice (satellite/dialup [at 28.8kbps] notwithstanding).
My dad is happy enough with wireless. His little Sprint USB modem is just fine for random use. I, however, would be over the cap in no time flat. There are bundles and bundles of fiber less than 1mi. away, and a DSLAM could easily be added to the area, but according to AT&T, "it'll never happen there."
My parents would also LOVE to be able to get, say, a Roku. Good luck with ANY serious streaming on a 3g connection, let alone sustained use. 4g having stupid low caps is also not promising in this regard. It's a huge letdown.
That's the biggest problem with any of it - caps. "Fixed" 4g service needs to aim for at least current DSL level caps, or it'll never be worth it to anyone who would put it to use for more than random surfing/youtube clips.
Capping the only option (besides satellite) to smartphone based levels of usage is a bad move, esp. as 4g comes out. Even w/3g, there should be "fixed" options for those situations (and the carriers could track this to make sure that 95% of use is one 1 tower). If that 3g card literally sits in one place most of the time, I don't see the harm in offering a better plan where 100-150GB of use is within reason at the current billable rate. They're still going to rake in cash........ | |
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 |  jgilles join:2010-10-06 River Falls, WI | Re: no choice Agreed on all counts.
I also only have mobile broadband as an option (other than dialup/satellite). AT&T refuses to expand DSL service even though it's only about 1/2 mile from me. Yet I have LTE coverage now and my friend's smartphone pulled down 12 Mb/s on a speed test. I'm not planning to switch due to the 5GB cap. And the 10GB plan is too pricey, IMO.
I'm currently using AT&T mobile broadband because at the time, it was the only option with a strong signal and good data rates. DLs are usually between 2-3 Mbit. Maybe when my contract is up, I would switch to LTE, but with the same cap (5GB), I'll just hit it faster and it feels pointless if I can't USE the faster speed for anything.
I can't do any serious streaming, a little here and there, but that's it. No major software downloads, always have to get DVDs for games, etc.
I usually hit my cap and go over, but most of the time we can keep it at 8GB or less, so it's still better and faster than satellite.
I truly can't understand why they don't offer a fixed option, like you said. Verizon could be offering 3G home internet to TONS of people with no alternative. Unless they really can't support the bandwidth, but I'm skeptical of that. | |
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 |  syslockPremium join:2007-02-03 Ann Arbor, MI | There are many areas in MI where its dial up only or there is no cable co.
People in these areas are using cell phone dongles to get on line because its way faster than dial up.
Satellite is a joke. | |
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VZW's LTE ends just a few miles to my east, which means it will be forever until we see it. I was extremely disappointed that they put such a low cap/high cost on the service, and it won't fly if they're trying to market it as a home service. | |
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 lordfly join:2000-10-12 Homestead, FL | Confused by terminology
At my residence, I dropped DSL and went with a 'wireless' ISP or (WISP) over a year ago. However, it seems that this article is talking about mobile broadband, not wireless broadband. Do you see my confusion? | |
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 |  jgilles join:2010-10-06 River Falls, WI 1 edit | Re: Confused by terminology "Mobile Broandband" refers to products offered by the major cellular carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile) that gets you internet access using their cell network. WISPs are usually for fixed service at home and don't use cellular. | |
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 | | LTE User My home internet is mobile hotspot thru my phone via verizon which is supposed to be unlimited. It is fast but very unreliable, a problem endemic to verizon lte phones. I would have landline if it was available. Why havent any stimulus funds gone to new landline internet and ftth only instead of ceo's pocmets? | |
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| technology overlap in some places, you can get faster cellular data access than you can DSL, which is ironic because the pricing (for prepaid, "unlimited" service) is beginning to overlap with DSL pricing. dsl is still priced between $20-$50.. and that's taking the same space with MetroPCS and Sprint's unlimited prepaid services, as well as StraightTalk(verizon/att/sprint delivered), and Net10(at&t/sprint delivered).
That will begin to erode the worst of the worst in telecom land (centurytel) because wouldn't you rather take your broadband anywhere you want rather than pay a company the highest price in the industry per bit of service outside of postpaid cellular? | |
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