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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
clubs:
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| Re: You know what they say Well then lets just call it sh*tware. I don't care what name you give it.
Actually, I do. It is a program that installs without the users permission, does things NO user wants (I dare you to find me one who WANTS spyware/adware/crapware), is very difficult to remove, effects system performance, gathers information.....
Where along the lines did we decide to call it anything but a commercial Virus anyway?
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join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| said by Eddyisgreat  :'Free From spyware' instead of 'Free of spyware' Exactly! The software is free because it is funded by spywa...adwa...um...um...
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | I would like to see..... .....all of these so called sites that have changed their terminology for iDownload.
And, how many have not changed?  | |
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hroo772
Darkness Fears Me
Premium
join:2002-04-05
Mclean, VA
clubs: | This is... ...Unheard of. I have had to clean off 3 computers that were infected with their crap. I hope these people get sued for that they are doing. I can't stand their product. | |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | Spyware IDownload and Spyware ISearch The same CEO that couldn't/wouldn't name one single site. LOL What a Spyware King! His whole concept is Spyware. | |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
Premium
join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
clubs:
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| Re: Spyware IDownload and Spyware ISearch \Go !@$% yourself Idownload. How can it be that just because someone critisies your work mean you can sue and take down a website and then gloat about it? Wow I didn't like some of the websites I went to I'm gonna call them crap on my personal website. Are they going to come take my site down because I voiced my opinion. THe internet is no longer of free speech and all that good jazz now it you have money and power you rule the internet god I hate our god damn goverment. | |
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Davebo_
join:2002-11-19
Canada | Re: Spyware IDownload and Spyware ISearch Perfect time to wheel that picture out again!  | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Re: Spyware IDownload and Spyware ISearch So that's where Baghdad Bob is employed nowadays. Or did
tha riaa lend him to IDownload for their propaganda PR campaign? | |
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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
join:2001-08-18
Naples, FL
·Comcast
| Stifling independent review sites? So independent review sites cannot provide their own opinion of the product anymore? It sure seems like spyware to me, but if I call it that, they're going to threaten to sue me?
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dadkins
Living on a Blu Planet
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| YO! Hey, IDownload and ISearch! Your SPYWARE SUCKS! In all definitions, it *IS* MALWARE!
Wanna sue me now? Bring it!
Words to live by:
"Crap is crap. Even if you cover it with Chocolate Sprinkles... it's sill CRAP!"
Awaiting your Cease and Desist letter(so I can start the bar-b-que!)  | |
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britt519
Premium
join:2005-02-24
Slidell, LA | Re: crap ? LOL! That is great  | |
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not quite right
I'D Tell You,But Your Head Would Explode
join:2001-06-23
Puyallup, WA
| Re: YO! said by dadkins :Hey, IDownload and ISearch! Your SPYWARE SUCKS! In all definitions, it *IS* MALWARE! Wanna sue me now? Bring it! Words to live by: "Crap is crap. Even if you cover it with Chocolate Sprinkles... it's sill CRAP!" Awaiting your Cease and Desist letter(so I can start the bar-b-que!) Damn it! You beat me to it!!! 
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hdman
Flt Rider
Premium
join:2003-11-25
Appleton, WI
 ·Alltel Axess
| You know that little white spec on top of...... This garbage is MALWARE....PERIOD. That little white spec on top of chicken shidt is still chicken shidt.....
Amazing how this company feels they can intimidate any website that offers a review of their product as BAD. I hope the CastleCops stick to their guns with regards to their review and assessment of this garbage.
To the iDownload CEO: You product is not only Malware, it is JUNK. I hope your vendors run as far as they can from you in the coming days....
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friscotx64
join:2005-01-24
Frisco, TX
| What's in a name? "A rose by any other name ... "
"Democratic Republic of Vietnam"
"People's Republic of China"
"Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
"German Democratic Republic"
"Lao People's Democratic Republic"
etc.
Right.
Calling yourself by a high-sounding name doesn't make it true.
Denying a name - which others have called you - doesn't make it false. | |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| Scare Tactics Why do I think that this whole C&D scheme was a scare tactic with no real plans for lawsuits. They send out a bunch of C&D notices, claim success with an unspecified number of unnamed sites, and use that "success" to pressure other sites to cave. Not the brightest of plans, but then again this is coming from someone who used the phrase "shoot a gift horse in the mouth." (Why does that remind me of something the PHB would say on Dilbert?) The CEO again threatened lawsuits, but I somehow get the feeling that this is a toothless threat from a slimy company. (Oh, no. I called them "slimy." I am therefore disparaging the iDownload brand and might be sued by them!!! )
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | They should call it whatever they want... I think sites should be able to call it whatever they want, you shouldnt be able to "cease a desist" other peoples opinion on something.
If I wanted to setup an anti-microsoft site saying windows is spyware I Should have the right to do so. | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Patriot Media
·Cingular Wireless
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February 24th, @01:58PM
| Re: They should call it whatever they want... said by Vamp :I think sites should be able to call it whatever they want, you shouldnt be able to "cease a desist" other peoples opinion on something. If I wanted to setup an anti-microsoft site saying windows is spyware I Should have the right to do so. Well thats Consitutional, which liberal judges usually rule against.
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StraitShoot
Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak
Premium
join:2003-02-08
Clinton, MA
| Maybe we shouldn't be so hard on IDownload...
After all they have THESE products here, they can't be ALL bad... LOL...
»www.idownload.com/support/kb/ind···&catId=1
Just kidding, these folks are EVIL!
IDownload, you can plead your case all you want, the masses will drag you down! Spyware jerks! | |
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rwbullet
join:2002-01-31
Keller, TX
| crap is crap If I have to boot into safe mode to remove software because it keeps re-installing itself after being uninstalled, like the iSearch toolbar, then that piece of crap is nothing but malicious software. GG! idownload, try again. | |
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dick white
Premium
join:2000-03-24
Annandale, VA | Where can I send a donation... for the DSLR legal defense fund. It looks like being the last repose of truth is going to require a lawyer to fend off their petty harassment.
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Where can I send a donation... Nahh. Just counter sue for trying to stifle free speech. | |
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wiggum
join:2003-05-05
Vancouver, BC
| IDownload CEO Claims Success If they were really so innocent, couldn't they convince the website operators without C&D letters?
i.e. explain why their software isn't spyware.
I haven't had any experience with their software, but it always pisses me off when a company sends a C&D letter instead of just asking nicely.
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| Turn about is fair play. Maybe we should all send them cease and desist letters advising them to stop trying to install any code, or script, or program, or tracking cookies, or components thereof, on our PCs.
Further it could serve as an express written notification that we categorically reject in perpetuity any and all of their products. | |
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Unregistered user
| Re: Turn about is fair play. That occurred to me, too. Tell them that if they use browser vulnerabilities to install their junk, you'll sue them for the cost of removing it, billable at an hourly rate of $75.
Really, maybe that's the way to get back at these slimeballs. Go after them for unauthorized access to a computer system. Force them to defend their slimy business practices in front of a court. | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Turn about is fair play. said by Unregistered user:
Really, maybe that's the way to get back at these slimeballs. Go after them for unauthorized access to a computer system. Force them to defend their slimy business practices in front of a court.
That could even be grounds for Federal prosecution under
the USA Patriot Act. I'm sure that not only home users
are affected by their product, but also businesses and
government owned computers. I hope their CEO likes his
new accommodations if the Feds go after IDownload: Gitmo.
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
| Call it whatever you want You can call it "puppies-and-rainbows-ware", it doesn't change the fact that they trick their users into installing it. I don't care if your software cures cancer and balances my checkbook - don't use deception to get it onto PCs.
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Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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February 24th, @04:38PM
| I tried to find a photo of iDownload's CEO, Arlo Gilbert but there is nothing which is a terrible disappointment because I wanted to make a stick on with it so I could glue a copy in a urinal.
Hello Arlo I am pissing on you..... | |
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick
·Comcast
·Pacific Bell - SBC
·DSL EXTREME
·Vonage
·VoicePulse
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February 26th, @03:57AM
| Re: I tried Arlo Gilbert, or at least someone who claims to be him, posts regularly as "Hooper" at justblowme.com, claims a 7 digit income, and talks about all his attempts to make money running sex sites including maninpink.com, which no longer exists. He also ran clickfeel.com, another add click revenue service which also no longer is active. He brags about making lots of money off of spyware removal software, which is pretty laughable. Anyway, if this guy really is Arlo, here's his picture:
Another guy named "wiseman" claims to be the sales director for Arlo/Hooper and their various web enterprises including idownload.com Here's some interesting reading (warning, it's pretty porn heavy):
»justblowmeresources.com/intervie···man.html
His ICQ number is: 93186564
The second picture is reputedly "Arlo" / "Hooper" at Wiseman's wedding.
Go join "justblowme.com" and look at what "Hooper" and "Wiseman" have posted claiming all their various ventures, many of which haven't panned out, but their successes which they claim are idownload.com and anti-spyware software. The language is really disgusting. | |
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Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: I tried Damn these two dweebs are an insult to a urinal. What a waste of skin. This is the face of spyware. I guess this is what you get when for clone a human from a foreskin. | |
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jmorlan
Crescit Eundo
join:2001-02-05
Pacifica, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by prestonlewis :Arlo Gilbert, or at least someone who claims to be him, posts regularly as "Hooper" at justblowme.com, claims a 7 digit income, and talks about all his attempts to make money running sex sites including maninpink.com, which no longer exists. He also ran clickfeel.com, another add click revenue service which also no longer is active. He brags about making lots of money off of spyware removal software, which is pretty laughable. Anyway, if this guy really is Arlo, here's his picture: Another guy named "wiseman" claims to be the sales director for Arlo/Hooper and their various web enterprises including idownload.com Here's some interesting reading (warning, it's pretty porn heavy): » justblowmeresources.com/intervie···man.htmlHis ICQ number is: 93186564 The second picture is reputedly "Arlo" / "Hooper" at Wiseman's wedding. Go join "justblowme.com" and look at what "Hooper" and "Wiseman" have posted claiming all their various ventures, many of which haven't panned out, but their successes which they claim are idownload.com and anti-spyware software. The language is really disgusting. I'm not sure if this post was modified. I understand Arlo requested the images be removed. Anyway, I believe the photo at the bottom of the interview is Wiseman. I'm pretty sure Arlo is the guy on the left in the pink vest at Wiseman's wedding here:
»www.jamieandryan.com/gallery/Wed···Lane_147
At least it looks like the avatar used by Hooper aka Arlo on the "justblowme.com" web site.
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OceanaJones
join:2004-10-18
Suffolk, VA
| Boycott Maybe the best defense is to boycott the companies that use
IDownload and ISearch. Hit them right square in their pocketbooks. If an unwanted pop up sends you to a site of "their" choice, take the time to notify them of your intention to support a web wide boycott of the arrogant way they get customers. You know their attorney(s) are laughing all the way to the bank. If they really have attorneys. | |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
Premium
join:2003-05-31
Erie, PA | Re: Boycott Boycotts sound good.
Will have to wait to see how Ad-Aware fairs in the retail sector to see if the past few days will even faze them. | |
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christos
join:2002-01-09
Bridgewater, MA
·Comcast Formerly ..
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February 24th, @09:29PM
| Small claims court suits? Maybe its time for me to start sending a bill to all the crapware companies for the time it takes to clean a machine. Wait 30 days and if they don't pay (which I am sure they won't) file the bill with the local small claims court. I am sure they will not show up at the hearing, which means the judgement will go my way. A few thousand of these small claims against the principals of crapware companies might get their attention.
Time for me to read up on small claims. | |
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catseyenu
Ack Pfft
Premium
join:2001-11-17
Fix East
clubs:
| Take The Money & Run? Try this one on for size...
Pump up the name and numbers with some cheap publicity, sell out... take the money and run.
The clown's probably read the writing on the wall and is looking to sucker some other sleaze ball into buying him out before legislation is passed that outlaws this crap.
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GamerSupreme
join:2004-08-31
|  Couldn't think of a title...
In actual fact they categorized it as Spyware/Malware/Foist ware in their search definitions.
Also here everyone is going on about iDownloads bluff of taking it to court but if its that obvious then why don't the anti-spyware companies see that?
And finally in my opinion, if it uses shady installation techniques then 99% of the time it has something sinister to hide so if they are in the 1% they should state why they exploit flaws otherwise their software is unwanted and should be removed if installed. | |
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