  kapilThe Kapil
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Chicago, IL | Cool! ...If Google brings the same creative ingenuity to its calendar as Gmail, I can't wait for the new product.
I mean...who thought webmail could be improved. From the old staples Yahoo and Hotmail to the kind being offered by every mom and pop portal...webmail was webmail. But Google found a way to make it better.
I look forward to any new product Google might have to offer.
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Gmail is quite possibly the most friendly, well coded, well thought out webmail available. If Google Calender is anything like Gmail, sign me up now!
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| | | | Re: Cool! Google is such a wondrous, mysterious company...everything they touch turns to gold! | |
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Milwaukee, WI | ...Except for its lack of HTML encoding, no add'l POP account checking/sending, no ability to sort mail by sender and general lack of customization. Labels are nice, but it needs work.
Ultimately GMail can be the top webmail service available, but they need to incorporate amenities that their competitors have been offering for years.
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kudos:3 | Re: Cool! said by IhatemyISP:said by Unxchay:...Except for its lack of HTML encoding, no add'l POP account checking/sending, no ability to sort mail by sender and general lack of customization. Labels are nice, but it needs work. Ultimately GMail can be the top webmail service available, but they need to incorporate amenities that their competitors have been offering for years. Cheers, TOM Gmail beta Major features aren't typically added to beta and subsequent releases of anything. Google is relying upon their search indexing to make-up for the lack of standard sorting features. It works for some but not all, just don't expect them to add those sorting features now.
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| | | | | A lack of HTML encoding is one of the main things I like about it. Text only email is much safer and should be the world wide standard. | |
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| | | | | said by Unxchay:...Except for its lack of HTML encoding, no add'l POP account checking/sending, no ability to sort mail by sender and general lack of customization. Labels are nice, but it needs work. Ultimately GMail can be the top webmail service available, but they need to incorporate amenities that their competitors have been offering for years. Cheers, TOM hmmm... I can easily sort by sender by using their innovative label feature. Lack of customization?? I can specify a lot more customizations via their settings interface than I could ever do with hotmail.
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|  technickPremium
join:2000-12-16
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kudos:1 | I hope they integrate it directly into gmail. I'd like to receive email notifications when things are due, etc. Maybe a SMS text feature as well... | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Cool! Yahoo calendar does that now.. And you can syncronize it with your outlook calendar with their free plugin.. I use it to sync my home outlook with my work outlook.  | |
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join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Re: Cool! As long as there are nerds that write code, there will be nerds that will find a hole in that code. It's just a part of life in the digital age.
It's sort of how you accept the risk of falling out of the sky when you fly on a commercial airplane....could it happen, YES!. But will it, probably not.
Could someone exploit the weakness in Google's code to attack me...YES! But will it happen...probably not because A) I'm not that attractive of a target and B)Google is a lot more prudent about patching up holes than many other companies.
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| | | | | Re: Cool! Funny how that approach is taken with google but if MS would do the same thing it's a whole new ball park! | |
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Chicago, IL | Re: Cool! 
I earn a living working on Microsoft technology. As such, I keep MS bashing to a minimum. Having said that, I feel that Microsoft has certain responsibilities that come with being a market leader that Google, for now, does not.
It's sort of how we accept that there are people amongst us that can't tell the difference between 'your' and 'you're' or that a certain number of us will cheat on our wives....but we expect our presidents to adhere to a higher standard.
Just about every computer in the world runs Microsoft software, it seems. Including, I presume, some mission critical systems at the best and the brightest of American (and international) enterprises.
If all Microsoft systems were to crash all of a sudden, it would bring the world's economy to a screeching halt. If Google goes away, we can use another search engine, another webmail service or, GASP!, go back to looking things up the old fashioned way.
All I'm saying is, a certain amount of MS bashing is warranted because Microsoft appears to put money before everything else. That is in stark contrast to Google's hippie-style culture where everyone shares the love and gets high on new javascript from India.
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| | | | | | | Re: Cool! Constructive criticism and intelligent posts are one thing and I agree there is no problem with this sort of "bashing" no matter what company it is or their position in the market.
However over looking majour security issues while saying "google is the best I love google". Whilst turning around and slamming MS for silly, insignificant things is insane.
People seem to forget that Windows is a product not a public service. They owe you nothing, yes the SHOULD do things because they are a market leader but that doesn't mean the legally HAVE TO.
Look at the DRM or whatever, in media player. This is a feature that is easily turned off and is circumevented by a click of a mouse button and by ignoring stupid files yet all hell breaks loose.
Turn the page and Google has a massive hole in it's email that allows anyone to access your personal inbox easily and it is okay because it's in "beta". | |
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join:2000-11-21
Miamisburg, OH
kudos:3 | Re: Cool! This sort of double standard has existed for years now, and it goes both ways. Microsoft has its fair share of fanboys, just like Google, and they will defend MS tooth and nail. Neither side is necessarily wrong, but they lack the objectivity it takes to see the situation for what it is. Two competitors vying for market share. Take your predispositions regarding good vs. evil out of the equation and you might be surprised at what you find.
...and before you go placing the 'evil' moniker anywhere, lets I remind you that Bill Gates is one of the largest contributors to charitable organizations in the world? Just a thought...
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join:2001-04-26
Alexandria, VA | "or that a certain number of us will cheat on our wives....but we expect our presidents to adhere to a higher standard."
No, i expect our presidents not to lie under oath and abuse their power as president to cover up cheating on their wives. (which is a federal felony) The fact that they cheat on their wives is inconsequential... It's the fact that they just dont fess up and move on that's of consequence.
As for M$. When it takes 3 months to address the ease of pfishing in their browser, i think we have reason to coplain. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Cool! Right but they messed up because they didn't pursue the perjury they proced on the sex.
"As for M$. When it takes 3 months to address the ease of pfishing in their browser, i think we have reason to coplain."
THis just shows your ignorance when it comes to programming.
First of they have to research the problem, then write the code. They then have to make sure the code doesn't open new holes, fixes the old holes AND make sure it doesnt break any other programs, services etc. etc. etc.
3 months is nothing for an issue of that size. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Cool! They also audit similar code developed by the programmer who made the mistake in the first place. This allows them to close other holes that have yet to be found.
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|  jwardl
join:2000-08-12
Spring, TX | Another gem in Google's bucket: Google Maps. It competes with Yahoo! Maps and other online offerings, but has a much cleaner look, and you can DRAG THE MAP to take a look around. Try it.
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is a bigger integration of google into firefox
would be awesome
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join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
kudos:2 | Google is You can rearrange the letters in Google to spell
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Leg Goo.
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join:2002-04-25
Chesapeake, VA
kudos:73 | I dont think so. Google and MSN's bots have been hitting my PHP iCal non-stop for over a year. This is no indication that Google is going to have a calendar service.
Their bots are just spidering through the many, many, thousands of infinite links that the php script creates.
I admit I could be wrong - all I'm saying is that this is nothing new, and is not proof of Google offering or thinking about offering a new service. | |
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|  F walkerHey Intern, Get Me A CampariPremium
join:2003-04-10
Anchorage, AK | Re: I dont think so. said by CoxTech1:Google and MSN's bots have been hitting my PHP iCal non-stop for over a year. This is no indication that Google is going to have a calendar service. Their bots are just spidering through the many, many, thousands of infinite links that the php script creates. I admit I could be wrong - all I'm saying is that this is nothing new, and is not proof of Google offering or thinking about offering a new service. good point.
but "they" (we being a part of they) have to have gossip to mull over
would be nice though.
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Richmond, VA | said by CoxTech1:Google and MSN's bots have been hitting my PHP iCal non-stop for over a year. Well, FWIW, Google and MSN bots seem to hit just about any PHP page pretty hard. They're always at the top of the bots list in my server logs. Makes me wonder if they're doing that to monitor various PHP-related apps. Yeah, could be far-fetched, but it has me curious.
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<meta name="robots" content="index,nofollow">
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|  ke9nrPremium
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Las Vegas, NV | said by CoxTech1:Google and MSN's bots have been hitting my PHP iCal non-stop for over a year. This is no indication that Google is going to have a calendar service. I don't have any PHP or any calendars, but the MSN bots are so overactive that I blocked both netblocks at my router.
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join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | gCalender whats wrong with the calender I have on the wall?
it (usually) has enough room to write (yes, with a pen) in appoitments / data, tells me what day/date it is, shows holidays, and even has some theme relavent picture I get to look at all month.
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| Noah VailSon made my AvatarPremium
join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
kudos:2 | It was better when. Here! Here!
These newfangled contraptions are just a waste of time.
Back in my day we had our old steam powered computers and they did just fine.
You're all just a bunch of hooligans, now git out of my flower bed!
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Were It Not for Calendaring I would not have had to deploy Exchange for my company. The one big part of Exchange that every one of my users wanted was a shared calendar service. The iCal based calendar tools that are out there just haven't been 'ready for prime time'. If Google changes that, then it really lifts the need for Exchange, at least in situations like I was dealing with. I'd be especially happy if a good, integrated calendar server (with a good MAPI plugin) for Unix came out, because I then wouldn't need to have any Windows systems in my infrastructure.
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|  jkreuzigWhatever
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Yorba Linda, CA | Re: Were It Not for Calendaring said by nixen:I would not have had to deploy Exchange for my company. The one big part of Exchange that every one of my users wanted was a shared calendar service. The iCal based calendar tools that are out there just haven't been 'ready for prime time'. If Google changes that, then it really lifts the need for Exchange, at least in situations like I was dealing with. I'd be especially happy if a good, integrated calendar server (with a good MAPI plugin) for Unix came out, because I then wouldn't need to have any Windows systems in my infrastructure. -tom Two words for you: Oracle Calendar. Previously know as Corporate Time Calendar, it can be deployed as a Unix based solution. It has a shared calendar service, and would probably fit the bill for what you are looking at. | |
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| | nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | Re: Were It Not for Calendaring said by jkreuzig:Two words for you: Oracle Calendar. Previously know as Corporate Time Calendar, it can be deployed as a Unix based solution. It has a shared calendar service, and would probably fit the bill for what you are looking at. Heh... Oracle... My boss would have shit the bed had I suggested something that expensive. See, we're a small startup. Exchange was expensive enough.
We also had two other considerations. One was the MAPI connectors; the other was ongoing maintenance. Any of the solutions we'd looked at as alternatives had basic issues with the MAPI connector. We also needed something that, once set up, we could be decently confident that a low-skilled individual would be able to keep running (as the rest of the consultants are on the road better than 60% of the time).
Oh well, too late now.
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