| |CorvusFlaming Tards Since 2003Premium
Re: Bell Canada Gets Naked
said by Fraoch:Funny how competition is changing things? Videotron is currently heavily harvesting Bell customers with our VoIP service. The soup is getting hotter, Bell know it's better keeping a DSL access than loosing everything.
Heh, heh, just asked someone about this at a Bell World store a month ago.
Back then it was "impossible". They did state it would be "possible" when Bell introduced their own VoIP service near the end of the year.
Gee, how times change in a few weeks!
Don't worry, it's not loaded. ~~Terry Kath, musician, Suicide playing Russian roulette. January 23, 1978
Re: I Smell A Corporate RAT....
said by karlj1:Not an issue, other ISPs can run a copper dry line to your house and offer you free naked DSL.
Notice how only Sympatico users can get Naked DSL?
Oh wait, you trying to tell me those companies dont want to run copper to your house for free?! SUCH NERVE!!
Sympatico Ultra + Rogers Extreme Dual WANage
| |RadioDocPremium,ExMod 2000-03
La Grange, IL
Where's the facts? "Responding to complaints, regulators in a growing number of states have ruled the tactic to be illegal."
What states, what complaints? Complaints here don't count. Where are the actual, filed complaints about line sharing?
"It's an issue many argue the FCC should have addressed long ago"
Why? There is no reason for the FCC to even stick their nose in this on their own motion. You can't have the deregulation that allows independent CLECs and VoIP providers to exist and then turn around and whine when that process results in a situation you don't like. Anyone can order an unbundled loop. Nobody wants to pay for it though. Sounds like you want it for "free".
"though the market is slowly forcing telcos in that direction naturally"
If this is the "way it should be" then it will get there through market forces. "Naked DSL" is little more than a marketing/PR buzzword. Ameritech/SBC (for example) ran all DSL on unbundled loops for a number of years until they were forced to line share. Some of those circuits are still in service. How ironic is that? Make up your mind whether you want to have your cake or eat it, Karl Bode .
Sympatico only? I've been looking around and calling all kinds of DSL carriers for the last week (Including Primus, whom I've been with for several years) looking for one that would offer me naked DSL, and not one said that they could do it yet.
Of course, I called Sympatico back, and they begrudgingly said that yes, they could provide me a naked DSL service.
There *IS* a surcharge, but the signup lady couldn't quote it exactly - she "Believes" it's less then $10 per month, but wouldn't quote it exactly.
So, after departing Sympatico a few years ago when they first imposed the bitcaps (Which have since mysteriously dissappeared since customers like me defected) I had no choice but to return in order to get a dry loop.
Since I want to move to Voip since LNP came my way earlier this month, I had little choice - I didn't want to pay for a POTS line when I was not going to use it any longer.
Funny how that bitcap dissapeared, though.. Although I *never* ran up against it, I refused to be capped, and left for Primus, who never has had a bitcap. Rarely do I transfer more then 10 or 20 gigs a month, and that's exceptionally rare.
I guess Bell learned the hard way that "Unlimited" internet really should be "Unlimited".
So, once again, within a few days I will unfortunately be a Sympatico customer....and being forced to rent a modem again that I don't actually need, as I own my own.
One can bet that I won't be around any longer then necessary to allow the other DSL carriers to catch up and start offering Dry DSL themselves, at which point I'll likely move again to another DSL carrier that has better pricing, and actually offers a discount for those that own their own modems.