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FCC Opens More Spectrum for WISPS
A big plus for rural broadband in America
by korym 10:41AM Friday Mar 11 2005
An operator of a wireless ISP in Vermont, yesterday posted to WISP Centric that "from what I can tell, the FCC is giving us the 3650-3700MHZ spectrum with some restrictions." Late yesterday the FCC confirmed via press release (pdf) they have opened that spectrum up, adopting what they're calling a "hybrid approach" to licensing, with the intent of bringing increased wireless broadband penetration to rural areas. Users in our WISP forum celebrate the decision and hash out the details.

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Hoo Hoo Hoo Hee Hee Hee


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korym
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Still partying...

There's still a bunch of celebration going on amongst the various WISP-related mailing lists and discussion boards. Certainly there are many questions still be to be answered from the FCC but this is definitely a huge step for the "little guys."

It'll definitely be an interesting time to watch the FCC's actions.

I'd like to publicly thank Justin, Karl and the entire BBR team for posting this valuable submission as the FCC's action will ultimately help WISPs provide even better service to their current and prospective subscribers.

Just my two cents, of course.

Regards,
Kory
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Re: Still partying...

That's excellent!

With 5.4 GHz and its 255MHz and now 50 MHz at 3.6 GHz that is wonderful.. I wonder if this small 50MHz is just to experiment with to see if this new hybrid approach will work and then if it does, much more spectrum will be opened up..

cheers,
Paul

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Re: Still partying...

The 50 mhz segment might be in trouble most all of this area is a US Military allotment. Having said this there are portions of this band that are given over to public service organizations. I know The Wyoming Highway Partrol still has frequencies in this area they have not used in decades.

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Re: Still partying...

Uh...that's a 50 MHz 'wide' chunk at 3.6 GHz, not 50 MHz.

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said by RadioDoc:

Uh...that's a 50 MHz 'wide' chunk at 3.6 GHz, not 50 MHz.
Oops, sorry when I typed this I had a drunk dope-head screaming in my headsets calling me names even I had not heard of. so I was a little distracted at the time taking notes.:D
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What hardware is available for this?

Are there band plans and channel assignments out for this already?

From the pdf... this part seems... amazing?
quote:
Fixed stations will be allowed to operate with a
peak power limit of 25 Watts per 25 megahertz bandwidth, and mobile stations with a peak power limit of
1 Watt per 25 megahertz bandwidth.

25 watts? I guess it's not the cook your eggs freq but this still seems a little excessive unless they are talking about the erp and not the measurement off the amp.

Also the "per 25 megahertz bandwidth" does that mean they are only assigning 2 channels or are they referring to something else?
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korym
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Re: Still partying...

Excellent questions. As I mentioned there are still many questions to be answered. Fortunately, you're not alone in asking as similar questions are being asked within this thread with possible answers and speculation:

»isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wir···541.html

Of course, the FCC will ultimately have the final/official say but, fortunately, now they're definitely taking input from groups like WISPA.

HtH!

Regards,
Kory
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PDXPLT

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Yes. It's EIRP (I read the FCC Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in detail).

This band up to now is used by receive-only satellite earth stations. So the rules are written so that WISP's can use these frequencies, so long as they are not operating in the boresight of any of these earth stations. Since most of these are on the coasts, aimed at birds over the ocean, this isn't much of a restriction.

Yea, 3.7 Gig ain't great for NLOS, but for line of sight, 25W will go a long, long, way.

In order to use that much power, the sites must be fixed, and professionally installed.
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i dont think military channels would be much worry, 25 watts isnt enough to mess with something unless they are hovering their chopper right over your transmitter. im guessing unless every state bans muni-ISPs the gain from this will far out weigh the bad things.
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Interference with Wireless USB?

3650-3700 is right in the middle of Wireless USB's Band 1 »www.techonline.com/community/tec···sb/37308 We can hope there will be no interference issues.
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I'm don't need any 3.5 g I need 800-999 Mhz

Really this does not help me one bit all my customers are NLOS and 3.5 does not work well in those kinds of conditions. So how about a 100+ mhz of sub 999. for us rural WISP's

Flushls

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Re: I'm don't need any 3.5 g I need 800-999 Mhz

Actually, this might be helpful to you because of the increased power range. Just a thought.

Regards,
Kory
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Re: I'm don't need any 3.5 g I need 800-999 Mhz

I hear a lot of people talking about the "increased power", however without clarification as to whether this is TX power or EIRP there's little to say about this.

If it's only EIRP then the power limits are little better than what is in place now with PTmP rules and are close to PTmP rules.
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said by flushls:

Really this does not help me one bit all my customers are NLOS and 3.5 does not work well in those kinds of conditions. So how about a 100+ mhz of sub 999. for us rural WISP's
Just wait... there's another Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to let WISP's operate in TV Channels 5 to 51, if there's no TV station in the area using it.

At 6 MHz per TV channel, that's LOTS of spectrum below 700 MHz for use by rural WISP's, where typically there are few TV stations in operation.