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Direct Revenue Class Action
Spyware purveyor faces legal fight
by Karl Bode 12:21PM Tuesday Apr 05 2005
Direct Revenue's spyware is apparently so sleazy, it even uninstalls other competing spyware applications (MSNBC recently profiled the company, which has operated under a number of names). Spyware Researcher Eric Howes stops by our security forum to point out that a class action lawsuit has been filed (pdf link) against the company, targeting their sleazy installation techniques and business methods.

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Knnn

join:2003-01-27
North Vancouver, BC

About Tme

May be a few more class action suits would make some of the other crapware vendors think twice about their more dubious installation methods ... but probably not .... :/
BarneyBadAss
Badasses Fight For Freedom
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Re: About Tme

Ok,

So they get they get a judgement against this company... so what; big deal... then what?

They continue doing what they do? What happens if they just move their operations "Off Shore" where the long arm of the U.S. law has little or no effect?

Does anyone beleive this is going to change anything?

I'm not holding my breath on this... on the surface, it seems like a perfetly good waste of time and $$$$$ to me.... but that's my observation...

Time's going to tell on what happens here... bet they move the operatons off shore.....

No harm, no fowel... just something to be "PLUCKED" over...

technick
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Re: About Tme

I agree, I think instead of being civil about this we should send a team of navy seals to their office, arrest everyone there and haul them to the famous prison in cuba. Lock them up with the captured Iraq prisoners and let them rot.
MalakoPlus

join:2005-01-17
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Re: About Tme

Arrest? To much money just execute them on the spot.

Hammer + a rusty nail. Preferbly a claw hammer so the nail can be dug out and reused.

drkkgt
Boo
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Whittier, CA

Re: About Tme

Hammer and nail? Too many hits.

Let's help them to get overseas. We can using them as padding between the huge cargo containers that are loaded on ships.

(Sorry, watched CSI New York episode the other day)
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"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."-Mitch Ratliffe

fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
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Limbo

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said by BarneyBadAss:

on the surface, it seems like a perfetly good waste of time and $$$$$ to me...
The way I see it is if they're having to spend time and money to fend off class action suits, it's less profit for the owners and less money for development of more of their crap. I'd be happy to see more people throwing money at this because more money thrown at suing them means less money for them and if the people filing the suits want to spend their money to do it, more power to them.

As a bonus, it's more bad publicity for the companies being sued.
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bent
and Inga
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Re: About Tme

I agree 100%. Legal battles are very expensive to fight, just being involved in one can kill a company regardless of who wins. Hopefully this sets some sort of precedent, and we'll see more of the same.

Jason Levine
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USA
Nah, they'd probably just counter-sue for ruining their products reputation by daring to suggest that somebody doesn't like it.
mary102696

join:2005-04-19
Springfield, IL


I wish someone would bug the creator of Direct Revenue as much as they bug me at work. Quote unquote....what a complete pain in the ass and they're just STEALING my information. If you get an error report, do NOT send...that's how they're getting it folks!!!!!

Annoying bloodsucking leeches.

Mary Chapman

Mr Hogan

@64-146-131.ips.vib.t

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WTF?

Direct Revenues end-user license agreements (EULAs) that reserve the right for the company to reinstall its software if the user tries to delete it.

Sounds illegal
BarneyBadAss
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Re: WTF?

You know... it occurs to me, that by participating in any of these threads, someone might be called... for any number of things... perhaps even named as defendants in a counter suit... perhaps I'd better not post this

HangemHIGH

@taylor01.mi.comcast.

The only good Spammer is a DEAD Spammer !

It's about time these SCUMBAGS get a death sentence!

some guy

@dsl.milwwi.ameritech

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Re: The only good Spammer is a DEAD Spammer !

nuke taylor michigan first

that's a much better start

Doctor Four
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said by HangemHIGH:

It's about time these SCUMBAGS get a death sentence!
Especially the ones behind CoolWebSearch. But catching
that gang of criminals is going to be very difficult. I
wonder if there are any extradition agreements between
the US and Russia?

Direct Revenue is only the start. This is going to
snowball - the CEOs of 180 Solutions, iSearch, and
Claria ought to take heed - they might be next in the
line of fire for class action suits.
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"Kayura or Badamon, whichever you are, you should know that I will never give up this battle. By the will of the Ancient, I shall succeed!" - Shuten (Anubis) from the Ronin Warriors.To RIAA/MPAA - You can sue but you can't catch everyone!

Shack

join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN

Better something than nothing.

While I doubt this will have much of a positive long lasting affect, I guess it is better than nothing. All it will really do I fear is make a few lawyers some money.

Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

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Cheyenne, WY
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A new reality show

How about putting all of these spyware creeps on a island surrounded by man eating sharks, inhabited by saltwater croc's, meat eating land crabs, blood sucking insects, venomous snakes, leeches, cannibals, and man hating newly divorced women. Nothing would survive this
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA

Re: A new reality show

said by Transmaster:

How about putting all of these spyware creeps on a island surrounded by man eating sharks, inhabited by saltwater croc's, meat eating land crabs, blood sucking insects, venomous snakes, leeches, cannibals, and man hating newly divorced women. Nothing would survive this
As a bonus lets throw in some very dangerous pitbulls to prey up anything that moves on land.Some trigger happy mercs would also add to the carnage.Can you hear me now you spineless
scumbags.Bet they could walk under a preganent ant and not even mess up their hair.YO spyware makers here's what i think of you.

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Also a bit of advise scum ware makers: GO STICK YOUR HEAD
UP YOUR AZZ TO SEE IF IT FITS.

edit: Say hello to my little friend
These sentiments ARE NOT directed at anyone at BBR
internetlol2

join:2005-01-04
Fairfax, VA

Re: A new reality show

I have little sympathy for people whose PC's are clogged with junkware.

Keeping this crap off your machine isn't rocket science. Here are some tips, not neccessarily in order of importance.

1. Don't click "OK" on anything and everything that pops up in IE.

2. Learn the difference between an actual windows dialog box and a IE pop-up that tries to look like an dialog box.

3. Don't install any browser toolbars except Yahoo and Google.

4. Don't install anything that promise to help you find porn, warez, or good prices.

5. Actually read what you are agreeing to when you install crap like Bonzi Buddy, Morpheus, Kazaa, BearShare, etc.

6. Learn to love Firefox. Only use IE when you have to.

7. Get a decent firewall, or better yet a hardware firewall/router. Block all the ports you don't need.

8. If you are too lazy to check for windows updates, then turn on auto-update to do it for you. If people actually bothered to update their machines correctly a lot of worms/bugs/trojans/viri wouldn't become nearly so widespread.

9. Get a good virus checker. Keep is updated. Actually scan you email attachments. Don't open attachments you were not expecting.

10. Don't be an idiot and fall for phishing scams.

11. Get a GOOD Spyware checker and keep it updated. Run it at least once a week.

12. Learn at least the basics of how files, directories, programs, and shortcuts work.

And most importantly, stop thinking your PC is an appliance. It's a complicated device that was designed for compatability first, ease of use second, and security third.

guitarzan
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Skytop, PA

Re: A new reality show

Re: A new reality show

I have little sympathy for people whose PC's are clogged with junkware.

Keeping this crap off your machine isn't rocket science. Here are some tips, not neccessarily in order of importance.

1. Don't click "OK" on anything and everything that pops up in IE.
Older folks with maybe failing eyesight/or may take the pop-up at its word that.Hey this maybe something important i need.Who just do basic browsing and emailing
2. Learn the difference between an actual windows dialog box and a IE pop-up that tries to look like an dialog box.
See answer above,Especially when it flashes buy.Not giving one time to read or realize its harmful content
3. Don't install any browser toolbars except Yahoo and Google.
Best advice one can give or heed
4. Don't install anything that promise to help you find porn, warez, or good prices.
If it sounds to good to be true it probably is
5. Actually read what you are agreeing to when you install crap like Bonzi Buddy, Morpheus, Kazaa, BearShare, etc.
Aw people love that cute little bonzi buddy,its so cute it talks with you.Its a POS
6. Learn to love Firefox. Only use IE when you have to.
pretty hard to do when said people click on everthing in sight unknowning the dangers involved nor the risk factor
7. Get a decent firewall, or better yet a hardware firewall/router. Block all the ports you don't need.
Thats a must have feature for people with broadband.Best advice that can be given/followed
8. If you are too lazy to check for windows updates, then turn on auto-update to do it for you. If people actually bothered to update their machines correctly a lot of worms/bugs/trojans/viri wouldn't become nearly so widespread.
That cannot be stressed enough.However the main point of this thread is the underhanded sneaky,highly mistrustful techinecs the shiteware companies,prowling the seedier
underbelly of the web go through to do a black bag hatchet job on ones computer
9. Get a good virus checker. Keep is updated. Actually scan you email attachments. Don't open attachments you were not expecting.
this malware affects dial up users as well.However thats good advice to follow as well
10. Don't be an idiot and fall for phishing scams.
Unfortunatly the bad guys are getting more ambitious and clever it their attempts to scam
11. Get a GOOD Spyware checker and keep it updated. Run it at least once a week.
NOW we get to the main point.When AV companies are getting into bed with these
scumware makers,And are pulling the terms of definitions and what defines this F'ing junk
what chance does the basic web surfer have? When this is getting under the skin of
the resident experts here at Dslreports already with there transgressions.How or who can be trusted.? Certainly not these moralless scumbags
12. Learn at least the basics of how files, directories, programs, and shortcuts work.
What the heck does this have to do with shitware/malware. etc.etc.etc ?
And most importantly, stop thinking your PC is an appliance. It's a complicated device that was designed for compatability first, ease of use second, and security third.

How complicated do you find this device.? the only thing that maybe complicated is the amount of code Windows loads at boot.Seriously I fail to see whats so complicated about it.Not as you state
it was designed for ease of use.Security is made numero uno above all else do to the spyware companies underhanded tactics.If first time or new users can get on the web.Unknowling get
infected.I will willingly instruct them of safe hex.Instruct them of how to keep the pc clean,And what to avoid and what to do if the contact some form of HTD (Hexually Transmitted Dickware)

Grail Knight
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Well...

Old Bill Gates wallet falling on them should be enough to take care of the Crapware Vendors.

nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA

Too Limited

Unless they're going to use this suit to subpoena their customer list, and then go after their customers as conspirators (thus preventing the viability of going offshore), it's kind of pointless.

-tom
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"Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased)

dave31

@proxad.net

the only way

maybe the only way to stop them is to use the same ways than them

yamaika

@ny325.east.verizon.n

so many great ideas

Well I am quite a bit informed user, that uses Firefox and Adware, HijackThis, CCleaner, Spybot, Secretmaker and so forth. Bu that damn Aurora Buddy from Direct revenue creeps still went through. I NEVER click OK on crap I don't know and always try to keep my system clean. Now if this passed ME buy, I can imagine what happens to an average user. For some reason I also got simultaneous attack of 2 THorses and a Worm. It installed itselfed without any of my content.

I SOOO much like the Rusty Nail and Clawhammer idea, but it seems that Reality show would be very pleasing. And about doing the same tactics...I think that's the best Idea. Swear, If I could afford it, just sponsor a company, get bestes hackers, put them off shore and just make those creeps and their cutomers live hell ...ahhh the air seems so much sweeter just thinkin about it.

whee54

@telus.net

Go after the clients

Check this out »www.cpvmarket.com/. It lists the companies that are paying direct revenue to infect your computer. Let me repeat that, the companies shown under "our clients" are PAYING DIRECT REVENUE TO INFECT YOUR COMPUTER. Either we boycott and/or sue these companies or the business model that keeps direct revenue and others in business is going to remain viable. In other words cut of the money to adware makers and there are no more adware makers.

wraither

@cox.net

Buddy removal

I spent 3 hours trying to delete this with 0 results. The only thing that worked was super ad blocker. Havent had any problems since running this. And its got a free trial, which is nice since I only needed it once. Hope this helps.

spamman2

@plspca.dsl-w.verizon

scumbags

Find the CEO and kill um!