How Naked is Verizon Getting?
Debate over how much skin is showing....
Since Marketwatch first announced
Verizon would be allowing customers in the Northeast to ditch their local service (providing "naked" DSL), there's been lots of pontification over just how naked Verizon would be getting. Internet News
has the story right: Verizon DSL customers in the Northeast (ex-NYNEX, Bell Atlantic territories) should be able to ditch Verizon phone service. New customers, and customers in other Verizon territories, aren't being given the option - yet.
While this is a small footprint, the news is still a big deal: If you recall
, many DSL customers who have tried to switch local providers have suddenly found their DSL line cancelled. Most were told unbundling the two was either illegal or technically impossible. While not fully nude, this at least is a step in the right direction.
Verizon insiders we've spoken to confirm the move, but many support reps seem unaware this is an option yet. So far, we've not seen anyone successfully make this switch; if you have, post in the comment-section below.
| |thender2Glamour ProfessionPremium
Staten Island, NY
said by Bullshitartists:Third rate?
I think the BBR boys ought to stop subscribing to verizons propaganda news letters. When the facts are in,Verizons a third rate ISP with abysmal dsl deployment. Also,with FIOS forty years down the road,It's time to stop giving credence to this "Chicken Shit" company.
I pay $30/month.
I get 3000/768(364/88 KBps) service. No transfer caps like your "chicken shit" ISP who caps people who upload or download on overloaded nodes.
I get 10 day retention on most usenet binary groups, and no transfer caps. Comcast gives what, two gigs? I do that in a day off of usenet, which I couldn't do on your "chicken shit" ISP.
Not to mention the DNS issues: and did I mention that you pay more than I do?
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Time to rewrite the DMCA.
Re: Not Again!
said by thender2: Fine, but do you also but VZ's hardline voice service? And where are you? That's what this thread is concerned with.
I pay $30/month. I get 3000/768(364/88 KBps) service. No transfer caps like your "chicken shit" ISP who caps people who upload or download on overloaded nodes.
For nearly TWO YEARS there have been so many f`ing false alarms on this topic stretching back that VZ's press releases and the legions of reporters who rehash them have lost all credibility with me. I'll initiate a new round of inquiries to the now long list of VZ contacts I have amassed (NH State regulatory office, NE PR dept, NE regional planning office, the local engineering crew (very friendly)).
Problem for me with this article is it sez they'll currently only unbundle for existing customers. Wonder if my 16 month old unbundling 1-man boycott movement qualifies me in their eyes, seeing as I was a VZ customer for years prior. Hmmm, thought not. I 'spect few people loathe forced bundle marketing as much as I do. No qualms here about bundle discounts, but forced service? grrrr [shakes with anger] just rubs me all wrong. The monumentally stupid thing is if, under present rules, I buy & don't use the voice service (just to get the DSL) I have to pay more to have my unused number NOT go into the local phone registry. Morons!!!!
sorry folks. i hate it when others vent all over a news thread, but i'm posting this pile o' poop anyway just to feel vindicated.
| |tmccann11Who, Me?Premium
| |said by Tomek:I also called 4 times. First time, I was disconnected from a conference call between verizon and verizon online, second time, I was told there is no such thing, third time, I was told only if I port my number to VoIP and I said fine, that I work for Vonage and would like to start the procedure, and then I was told that it's not available yet, and the last time, I was told there is no such thing. Oh well, I guess it will happen eventually.
I called VZ and was told that it's not possible. I wanted to get VoiceWing but rep told me that I will face same taxes as local service, so I said no thank you. And so far, can't get rid of the local. It's eating $50 dollar whole in my wallet. I would rather be paying $40 for unlimited international VoIP.
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Naked in Philly I spoke with a Rep yesterday and he told me that chances are PA customers would never see naked DSL. But, he said we may see naked FIOS. He claimed it was due to regulatory issues, but that's a whole other conversation. When inquiring about the ability to ditch the phone, get naked, and get VoiceWing, he said their intention is not to stick with VoIP for very long. Their focus is on sending everything over fiber, voice, video, internet, etc. So it was an encouraging conversation, but reality soon set back in after I hung up. Meanwhile, living in Philly, I'm surrounded by FIOS communities and have yet to get my own connection. Aren't cities supposed to get the cool technology first?
| |ruscorpI Never Stop Posting For YouPremium
Re: Naked in Philly
said by drbadass:No, the cities are too dense. Apt complex especially pose a problem. Verizon targets the burbs for testing.
Aren't cities supposed to get the cool technology first?
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