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Baltimore, MD | Re: Distnace from CO? 20 feet...just kidding | |
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|  metrodustHey Thats Mine
join:1999-12-10
Seattle, WA | said by madrhino: Anyone know the distance requirements? you should be good up to 10,000 ft. depending on your line conditions of course.
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| | |  SpitefulCrowInsert Witty Tag HerePremium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA | BPL causes massive electromagnetic interference and is not cost-effective. Bad troll, you fail. Try again. | |
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join:2000-03-23
Havre, MT
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| Re: UPLOAD speed sucks really bad... Booyah Good schooling
Be aware that BPL can be taken down by a legal cb radio operator BPL is not the way to go.
FTTH is
And no I am not totally against BPL just need to use a diffrent frequency set.
like 2-400 or even higher up. Sure costs more but less chance of interference.
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| | | | | SpitefulCrowInsert Witty Tag HerePremium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA | Re: UPLOAD speed sucks really bad... Nearly every frequency band has been licensed by the FCC and has communications on it at this point. The exceptions are the amateur bands, but you can't very well go stomping all over someone's 2.4GHz Wi-Fi setup or the other amateur equipment at 160-210MHz and ~600MHz. | |
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This technology isn't purely evil, but it in it's current state it is far from being ready for deployment. Experiments with BPL in the upper frequency bands have proven viable.
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| | |  totamakAnd they call me nuts?
join:2000-10-24
Los Angeles, CA | Exactly! No ISP is going to provide you fast SYMMETRIC at consumer pricing. BPL isn't going to give you this either. You want symmetric above ISDN speeds, you better be ready to pay for it in spades.
Besides you will never see 5Mbps download (let alone upload) on BPL outside of a laboratory that's fully RF shielded. No ISP is going to give you 5/5 symmetric unless you are willing to shell out serious bucks. | |
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| | | | | | Re: UPLOAD speed sucks really bad... I have 10/10mbit FTTH for about $50 per month. 
2005-05-02 23:24:18 EST: 8769 / 8334
Your download speed : 8980193 bps, or 8769 kbps.
A 1096.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 8534850 bps, or 8334 kbps.
Although tests at this time show about 9/9  | |
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| | | | |  SamsungSucksInfinita TristezaPremium
join:2004-12-31
Japan Inc. | Re: UPLOAD speed sucks really bad... So you can reach your 20GB cap faster:) | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: UPLOAD speed sucks really bad... said by SamsungSucks:So you can reach your 20GB cap faster:) Heh... Japan is quite different. I wouldn't compare Japan Broadband to the US broadband market.
The cap is 40 gig per month either direction (up or down; whichever is greater), but one month I've reached over 80 gigs uploaded and never got charged for. Go figure... ?? | |
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join:2002-12-28
Loveland, CO | Nice speeds. I had qwest DSL for 2 years before I moved. My only complaint was the Interleaving and high latency. Other then that it was rock solid. In the 2 years I don't remember it being down.
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Pittsburgh, PA | I am waiting for Verizon FIOS... | |
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|  TopmounterSent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | I'll take my LOW LATENCY 3 MBPS Cable Modem with NO INTERLEAVE
over ANYTHING, ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING NO MATTER HOW FAST.
I canceled my Qwest DSL a few years ago due to the assucking interleave. | |
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join:2002-01-06
Villisca, IA | Re: Distnace from CO? I hope you enjoy sharing your LOW LATENCY 3 MBPS Cable Modem. However.. cable modems DO use interleave, but it doesnt have the same effect on latency.
I have a 56ms ping to my team's (Team Judge - www.teamjudge.us if your interested) SOF2 server in Dallas. If you're really going to make a big deal out of 20 or 30ms your aim must REALLY suck. | |
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The rep also told me that anyone that is getting or eligible to get the 1.5 service will get the 5MB service.
I was told by the rep to call back tommorow for the prices of this new tier. | |
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join:2004-05-31
Omak, WA | Re: Qwest Prices and Distance info!! I shall be ordering tomorrow and canceling my charter cable, thank you GOD! | |
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| | | | Re: Qwest Prices and Distance info!! Same here, good bye Comcast. I love competition. | |
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join:2004-05-31
Omak, WA | Re: Qwest Prices and Distance info!! I had the 1.5 service for awhile, was rock solid. But Im a power user and 1.5 just doesn't cut it, not with the overhead. I got around 1250 of the 1500 down. This 5MB even if all i get is 4.5 it will still blow charter away, concidering i never see 3MB anyways. Charter and Qwest are both crappy companies IMO, but i'll take the turd that has the corn in it, its more filling | |
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: Qwest Prices and Distance info!! This is just what Qwest is hoping to hear:) | |
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join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN | said by samrocks:The rep also told me that anyone that is getting or eligible to get the 1.5 service will get the 5MB service. It will be real interesting to see how they're going to manage that trick. | |
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| | | Have no idea why Qwest wouldn't tell you the pricing - its right in the press release:
Customers who order Qwest Choice DSL Premier with MSN Premium for their home will receive the service for $29.99 per month for the first two months with a qualifying Qwest home phone package ($34.99 per month without). After two months, the price is $49.99 per month with a qualifying Qwest home phone package ($54.99 without).
Business customers who order Qwest Choice DSL with Internet Prime for their office will receive the service for $39.99 per month for the first two months with a qualifying business phone package ($44.99 without). After two months, the price is $57.99 per month with a qualifying Qwest business phone package ($62.99 without). | |
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| | SWEET This is sweet. i really dont want to get comcast when i move to Colorao In the next 10 months | |
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| | I assume the price is more? I assume the price is more and this isn't just an upgrade to existing packages, correct? | |
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join:2004-05-31
Omak, WA | Re: I assume the price is more? It's $10 more a month yes, which still is cheaper than my cable, don't know about your service. I personally am pleased to pay the extra money for more speed and better service. | |
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rayePremium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | Slowly but surely, the upload speeds are increasin 896 kbps, 768 kbps on cable (well in Time Warner areas anyway).
Hopefully this is the start of a trend... | |
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join:2004-05-31
Omak, WA | Re: Slowly but surely, the upload speeds are incre Well Qwest has been at that upload speed for a long time, theirs no change their, Qwest gives you the most upload they can without using a different technology/hardware. Unlike cable. When I last had Qwest DSl, about 2 months ago my upsteam sync was 1024kbps/sec which is the max the hardware supports. | |
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join:2002-12-02
Houston, TX | What is up with CABLE? Having Earthlink upload speed 384kbs really starts to hurt when you see DSL going faster, twice as fast! | |
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join:2002-01-06
Villisca, IA | Re: What is up with CABLE? DSL has always been teh better technology IMO. Something about sharing limited bandwidth with the whole neighborhood doesnt sit well with me. I know they are doing this with remote DSLAMS, but only because it's necessary. If I were in that situation I'd go with DSL anyway, mainly because it's a helluvalot more stable than cable. I've had Qwest 1.5Mbps/896Kbps for over a year now, and it's gone down once, for only 3 hours. Wehn I had Mediacom (crap) cable it was down two or three times a month for a day or two at a time. | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: What is up with CABLE? In my opinion, DSL's advantage is upload. At some point, we're all shared and I think cable has massive download bandwidth -- enough to match DSL's "less shared" architecture. The real problem is on the upstream side. Because on cable that too is shared, everyone gets assigned a time slot on which to transmit. If everyone talked at once, it would trash everything. DSL doesn't have this problem and should eventually be able to create upload speeds that cable simply cannot match, no matter what modulation tricks they use.
Of course having more doesn't mean anything if it isn't what people want. I suspect that most users are still very asynchronous -- using far more downstream capacity than upstream capacity. Certainly peer-to-peer file trading is reason enough but I suspect the majority will need some other application that thrives on upstream bandwidth before it becomes a driver toward synchronous speed packages (downstream = upstream speed packages). | |
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join:2002-09-14
Saint Louis, MO | You do realize that you are sharing your bandwith with everyone else no matter what technology you use right? DSL has been harping that line for years. Its all shared. You dont have a direct line to anything. If the CO in the area does not have enough bandwith piped to it then its no different than if a cable company doesn't have the bandwith in an area. | |
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join:2002-01-06
Villisca, IA | Re: What is up with CABLE? sure, if you want to go that deep we're ALL sharing bandwidth. The difference to note though is that DSL subscribers hardly ever complain about signifcantly lower speeds than what they are paying for, wheras I've heard that cable subscribers usually deal with much lower speeds during peak hours. Its not the technology's fault, its the greedy cable company not feeding the nodes with enough bandwidth. | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: What is up with CABLE? In some cases it could be technology's fault. Cable works much like an Ethernet hub. If you put too many people on the hub, it's going to get slow. However, if you realize the technology's limitations, you add a new hub that's uplinked to a switch rather than keep plowing more and more people on the same hub.
Ultimately it is the cable company's fault for not managing the limitations of its technology.
Being a cable HSI subscriber for nearly five years, I do agree that it is less the fault of a DOCSIS infrastructure and more the fault of insufficient pipes from the NOC to the Internet -- especially when everyone gets slower during peak periods. | |
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join:2003-06-22
Valencia, CA | way to go Q Well, her we go again.........
Summer time just around, speeds starting to go up again...
Good job Q, BUT, I think 5Mbps could have been easily been 7-8Mbps. Then again, your upload is looking good.
NOW, if only my sleeping giant SBC/YAHOO moves its ass...
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| | | Re: way to go Q said by steevio:Well, her we go again......... Summer time just around, speeds starting to go up again... Good job Q, BUT, I think 5Mbps could have been easily been 7-8Mbps. Then again, your upload is looking good. NOW, if only my sleeping giant SBC/YAHOO moves its ass... rock on Q Those with SBC Yahoo Pro will probably get upgraded to 4mb DL during the summer. So hang tight.:) | |
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| | | | Re: way to go Q Do you have any proof of this, or is this just a bit of speculation on your part? Hope it does happen. | |
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| | | | | Re: way to go Q said by markrubi:Do you have any proof of this, or is this just a bit of speculation on your part? Hope it does happen. Half speculation, half common sense. And oh yea, half fact.:) | |
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| | steevioSaving Lives One Shift At A Time
join:2003-06-22
Valencia, CA | OH NO, please say it aint so Aura..........
I was very confident that the Xpert package at 6-7Mb/768+K would return for a VERY reasonable price by June........
Who the hell cares for a ONE mb bump?
Man, one thing for sure, if SBC doesn't kick it up a notch by end of July, I AM OUT.............
SBC, are you listening dude............. | |
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| | | | | Re: way to go Q I care for one MB bump. And maybe even a 128KB upload bump too. | |
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join:2001-10-20
Palm Coast, FL
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| No one is ever happy.. I say "great move Qwest" but it seems like most of the posts on here are "could've been better".. first of all, at least this company is doing something for the customers (with upload speeds too).
I think this will be great for competition as well as the overall broadband market. You can't expect a company to go from 1.5 to 8mbps overnight (although yes I do understand it's possible). This must be tested out and properly configured. | |
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| | | Re: No one is ever happy.. As a Qwest customer I am happy this is going to happen. Over a year ago the big cable operators on the East coast were the first to bump up the download speed. Now lets see some telcos of america boost our pathetic speeds...
I currently have the 1.5 MB package and couldn't be happier! It has gone down once in like a year and only for a couple hours! (misconfiged COLO router)
I hope this takes loads of customers away from shitty COCKS cable here in the phoenix metro area. Now if only there were a 2nd cable provider here... | |
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| | | said by gigahurtz:I say "great move Qwest" but it seems like most of the posts on here are "could've been better".. WELCOME TO DSLR!! | |
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join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | Yep Looks like Qwest has hit the theoretical limit for upload on adsl. Don't expect more. | |
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| | | Yep Not True. the modems released by Qwest support ADSL2 and I think ADSL 2+, which allows for increase in upload speeds.
I am wondering if any of those 256k subscribers will see a bump up to say 640 or 1.5 megabit?
Anyone know for sure? | |
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join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | Re: Yep Hence why I said adsl. | |
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| | I hope... I called both Qwest and my third party ISP. The Qwest rep knew there was an upgrade, but didn't know it was so soon. My ISP rep, though, had no idea whatsoever. She even went to ask a supervisor, who had no idea as well. I sure do hope they're capable for the upgrade..
But, this is great! I had Cox but the instability sent me to DSL. So far, I've been very pleased but missed the speed. Now I can have both!
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Colorado Springs, CO | Just talked to Qwest rep They are quoting me a up to 7M down by 896 up connection not a 5 meg. | |
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join:2002-04-15
Tacoma, WA | Re: Just talked to Qwest rep Yea, something around 3/5/7 based on distance from CO for one price of $10 extra. | |
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