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Poking at the NForce4's ActiveArmor
by Karl Bode Thursday 05-May-2005 tags: hardware · security
The last several incarnations of Nvidia's Nforce motherboards have featured a hardware-based firewall, each generation becoming more feature rich. With their latest NForce4 integrated firewall, they've upgraded their Active Armor with an improved Secure Networking Engine, which NVidia promises will more intelligently filter out malicious traffic. Does it? Users in our Security forum put the Nforce4 based firewall through its paces.

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one_bored_si

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Nvidia Firewalls

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't active armor on the Neo2 Platinum boards as well.

reub2000
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said by one_bored_si:

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't active armor on the Neo2 Platinum boards as well.
The MSI K8N Neo2 Platnium is mother board using the nForce 3 Ultra.

I have tge MSI K8N Platnium, and the firewall makes the connection stop working. And it only works with windows.

basket case
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yeah right

i think nvidia should just stick to makeing video cards. if i wanted a fire wall, i would (and have) just buy a router and a software firewall. nvidia should stick to what there good at, which is video cards. maybe the next thing they will try is an OS . maybe they will call it nTAKE (as in more money ). stick to what you know people.

sbdjaro
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said by one_bored_si:

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't active armor on the Neo2 Platinum boards as well.
I think the main ideas is that it would be built into the chip and be more readily available to everyone with that chip instead of a single motherboard model.

said by basket case:

i think nvidia should just stick to making video cards. if i wanted a fire wall, i would (and have) just buy a router and a software firewall. nvidia should stick to what there good at, which is video cards. maybe the next thing they will try is an OS . maybe they will call it nTAKE (as in more money ). stick to what you know people.
I think nVidia is good at making chips... And they do stick to that. Other companies buy their chips oem and make the boards.

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said by basket case:

i think nvidia should just stick to makeing video cards. if i wanted a fire wall, i would (and have) just buy a router and a software firewall. nvidia should stick to what there good at, which is video cards. maybe the next thing they will try is an OS . maybe they will call it nTAKE (as in more money ). stick to what you know people.
Apparently they know motherboards too, because they make the best chipsets for AMD by a long shot.

basket case
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Re: yeah right

if i wanted to buy a mother board, i would not buy nvidia. thats not their nitch.

Phil
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Re: yeah right

said by basket case:

if i wanted to buy a mother board, i would not buy nvidia. thats not their nitch.
Last I checked nVidia didn't make motherboards, but the chip sets used on them...
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basket case
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Re: yeah right

MOBO'S or chipsets. you get the idea i aint buying their product unless it is a video card.

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said by basket case:

MOBO'S or chipsets. you get the idea i aint buying their product unless it is a video card.
That's just plain ridiculous. Nvidia has established themselves as a leader in the chipset market, right alongside Intel.

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Re: yeah right

Currently running an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum and I'm still discovering features I didn't know it had....

I disabled the firewall while I work on getting it stable, but I like Nvidia's motherboards. I remember there were a lot of raised eyebrows when they first came out, but I think they've proven themselves to make a great product....

Re: yeah right

hmm, Karl I have the MSI K8N Neo, I have no use for firewire ports. The only thing I don't like is the realtech sound. Also I just started messing with the firewall function last week. I still have not installed digicell to overclock YET. I say yet, since I have the koolance case, with waterblocks on the CPU and CHIPSET. I am also running the BFG 6800 GT OC. This rig is super sweet. Cas2 ram, and I did bump the FSB to 450. I got screenshots in COD/UO hitting 400+ FPS. This weekend I might 0 raid 2 SATA drives. I am going to hook up another computer as a server next week, then let the chipset work as the switch. I was worried about the water, but enough time has passed since I pieced it all together, now I want to make it sweat a little. I will not buy ATI or INTEL ever again.

Karl Bode
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Re: yeah right

Digicell is nice to monitor temps I guess, but I think you can also overclock via Bios, so I'm not sure of its full use....
jaypr9

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You gotta be kidding me, nvidia makes one of the best chipsets out there for AMD if not the best.

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Your statement would have had validity back when nVidia first got into chipsets. In fact I felt pretty much the same way you do now. But they have proven that they have a stable product that works. Are you seriously telling me that you would rather have a Via or SiS chipset for an AMD based system?
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MightyPez

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quote:
MOBO'S or chipsets. you get the idea i aint buying their product unless it is a video card.
Well have fun waiting. Nvidia also doesn't make video cards. They make reference designs and chipsets, but not video cards.

inteller
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i get the idea you are an idiot too but thats besides the point...
the niTz
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Re: yeah right

LMAO that was the greatest, but yea nv rocks @ chipsets for amd and it looks like there giving intel a run for theirs too:D
Ahrenl

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Yeah, I'd just like to add my "you're a moron" as well.. just so there isn't anyone who thinks twice about coming to the same conclusion. Nvidia is one of the top motherboard chipset designers in the consumer industry.

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said by basket case:

if i wanted to buy a mother board, i would not buy nvidia. thats not their nitch.
basket case they make the top AMD chipset and they compete head to head with Intel and should give Intel fits in the dual core area as well.

Nvidia makes great chipset and ATi might as well to when they get up to speed.

The days of via and sis are essentially
over for most hardcore users.

Hall
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Long featured ??

"Nvidia's Nforce motherboards have long featured a hardware-based firewall..." ??

Since when ??

Karl Bode
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Re: Long featured ??

Yeah I reworded that. I guess it has only been since the NForce2 Ultra and NForce3....unless I'm wrong?

Hall
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Re: Long featured ??

I built myself a system a couple years ago and it has nForce2 chipset and obviously no firewall. I guess "long", as in "time", is different when speaking about computer stuff. I'm sure my nForce2, AMD 2500 Athlon is "obsolete" to many people...

That said, I only follow and research this stuff when I'm in the market for myself. There could be nForce8 chipsets for all I know...

nixen
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Re: Long featured ??

It may mean long, as in relative to overall product lifetime. That is, vs. how long theyve been making motherboards.

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Firewall

As stated earlier, they don't make the motherboard, just to make that clear again, as far as the firewall it came out with the NF3 250GB chipset, little over a year ago I suppose.

jvmorris
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Hall,

Try »www.nvidia.com/page/search.html?···Firewall for Nvidia's collection of articles (and unfortunately press releases) on the Nvidia firewall(s). Seems to go back at least to the NForce3 250 in early 2004.
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EdibleTarget
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neat idea

but I know I wouldnt use it.

Phil
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Re: neat idea

I definitely use it. I like the fact that I don't need to run a software firewall and still have the ability to stop apps calling home.
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AboutBell1
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You have to use NIS to make it work

When I first read about the Nforce 4's built in hardware firewall I was pretty excited. Then I found out that you need Norton Internet Security to make it work. Having to use Norton Bloatware is a non-starter for me.
blinky8225

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Re: You have to use NIS to make it work

Where did you hear that?
It works just fine for me without any Norton Software. Just install the mobo drivers and it works.

jvmorris
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Negatory, Norton software is not required in any way, shape, or form to use the Nvidia firewall. I've been using NIS/NPF since they first appeared on the market (still have it running on the old Win 98 SE box); it's not on the new machine.
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Julio
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nope, u do not need Norton Internet Security.
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AboutBell1
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I stand corrected. I read it somewhere and I either interpreted it wrong or the information was wrong.

basket case
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for these 2 IDOITS AND MORONS must be pro nvidia. get over it fools.

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