From 2000 to 2004, US landlines dropped from 167 million to 132 million, while cellphones grew from 108 million to 182 million. CNN/Money notes how a growing number of states have started imposing new cellphone taxes to help make up for that lost revenue, particularly since they haven't been allowed to tax VoIP. The phone industry has launched StopAddingToMyBill.com to fight the moves.
Sales reps already say that fee is a government tax. (here in Canada anyways), so now providers can kill that tax, and their sales people will no longer be lying.. -- Facts are meaningless; you can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! Facts, schmacks
They could be a bit more honest themselves and just list the wholesale price they have to pay the government for the various "fees" they pass on to the consumer. I wonder how much of it is padded with additional "markup". Still, that doesn't dispute the fact that cell phone taxes are already much too high as it is. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. --- Edmund Burke Kill your TV, then Internet Explorer: »www.mozilla.org
This is ripe for something that will be under high powered wifi voip that doesn't subscribe to any 'tax' local, state of federal.. but its scope would be quite limited at first, companies would need to see s sustainable business model first.. There is a tax revolt on POTS lines going on to the tune of over 10 million voice lines already between the major carriers of voip today
2005-May-11 11:47 am: ·
Kearnstd Space Elf Premium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:1
wonder if FIOS is taxable, if they pull the POTS line from your house when you subscribe that means your phone is technicly VOIP and isnt taxable except for the 911 fee. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports
Agreed, but lets look at it this way. When, in the history of commerce for profit, has any seller not ultimately passed along the cost of doing business to their customers, until after the customer was contractually obligated for service based on a bait and switch pricing scenario.
quote:The phone industry has launched StopAddingToMyBill.com to fight the moves.
Unless they're referring to the cell phone providers, the POTS service providers have a lot of balls if they're running a campaign called "stop adding to my bill" considering they're the ones who have mastered the art of hiding rate increases in bullshit "taxes" such as the Universal Service Recovery tax.
My plan is $39 as well (no SMS) and I get bill of around $50. $10 or 20% of my total bill is taxes/fees. That's outrageous. Why not impose ONE official tax, like FEDERAL TELECOM TAX with a specific rate and then let government split it among their agencies. When I got my first bill in America, it took CSR about an hour to go over every individual tax/fee on the POTS bill. -- Semper Fidelis
Why not impose ANY TAX. If the tax is truly used to manage the regulation of that particular product, fine. I don't like it but fine. You can't tell me that it costs 30+% to regulate a product. That's bull.
It's because they know you will pay it because you are addicted to the wireless phone. You'll squawk about more property, income and sales taxes, so, to keep up their level of spending (god forbid they actually STOP spending what they dont have) They add these taxes and charges to your phone bill. Untill and unless the american popu;lation really makes a big deal about this kind of stuff, they will keep soaking you. You notice all these taxes are now on things they know you are loathe to do without.
They know you, sucker, better than you know yourself. And Joe box of rocks will just keep paying and paying, just like your elected "representatives knew he would.
Prepayers don't pay any tax, other than sales tax. (7.4% here) Though the minutes are pricey enough that they likely cover the 14.85% that they say I should be paying. In any case, landline taxes are still much, much higher based on percentage. I pay only 14.88 base for my home phone, but the taxes are 10.22, or 68.7%. Telcos, states, feds, there's plenty of blame to go around.
2005-May-11 3:03 am: ·
PhoenixDown FIOS is Awesome Premium join:2003-06-08 Fresh Meadows, NY kudos:1
Gov site for official ny city / state tax?
I want to verify exactly what taxes are applicable and what the %'s are. Does anyone know where to find this for NYC? -- www.pulsetoday.com -- marketing forums!
Top 20 Most Taxing States Some states are worse than others when it comes to how much they tax wireless consumers. Below is a ranking of the top 20 states in which wireless consumers are paying the most taxes and fees for their service.
Level of Taxation on Wireless Consumers
State-Local Total New York 16.23% 21.71% Florida 16.12% 21.60% Washington 16.04% 21.52% Illinois 15.57% 21.05% Nebraska 15.13% 20.61% Texas 14.19% 19.67% Rhode Island 14.07% 19.55% Pennsylvania 13.57% 19.05% California 13.18% 18.66% District of Columbia 12.57% 18.05% South Dakota 12.01% 17.49% Tennessee 11.57% 17.05% Missouri 11.12% 16.60% Arizona 11.06% 16.54% North Dakota 10.94% 16.42% Wyoming 10.67% 16.15% Kansas 10.32% 15.80% Utah 10.25% 15.73% Arkansas 10.21% 15.69% Kentucky 9.98% 15.46% (Source: Scott Mackey, State Tax Notes, July 19, 2004)
and i never owned one!:D thats like 2/3rds of the population and cell phones are still $40-70 a month? common ive recently looked at the rates for verizon and i was APPALLED! do they want EVERYONE to talk after 9:01PM?? and theres still no affordable internet via cell plans and thats still the best reason it would appeal to me, if verizon could offer $39(and they could tax $5 on it for all i care) 2mb/128-256 with no caps i would rush into buy one.. its still virgin territory -- Read this!
Call, email, your local reps. Tell them to stop it with the taxes already. Unless your happy with paying these taxes that will end up costing more than the service itself one day then go back and sit on your couch and drink your beer.
2005-May-10 9:18 pm: ·
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I hate taxes just as much as the next guy, probably even more so. It's just history repeating itself, taxation without representation. Then you have the people who want everything in the world, so how do they expect the government to pay for it?
Around 1990, before the cell phone really took off and before dial up internet, the number of lines were smaller. I don't remember the number. I just know how much area code splitting was going on in the 90's. So, this has been a gravy train for the govt and now they are addicted to it. I wonder if the founding fathers thought....freedom of speech...... but we can always tax it to death. (I know, that's a stretch) Never the less and just guessing, I would assume over 100 million lines have been added in the past 15 years.
Mean while we are exporting jobs, importing cheaper labor, and driving down wages. But that's another forum.
Anyone know the phone line statistics for around 1990? -- Thermaltake 2000a/Asus P4C-e/p4 3.4/ocz3500 2x512/WD.2x200g/raptor2x74 raid 0/ATI 9600/APC sua 1500/Logitech z-680/ Samsung 213t LCD/MX 1000
Just consider all of these cell phone taxes as a "Disturbing the Peace by jabbing away" fine and a "down payment on the accident damage I am going to cause by driving while trying to handle my micro sized cell phone" fee. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Its never too late to think......think about it.