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220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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Mechanicsburg, PA | pt barnum was right even if the attributed quote wasnt actually made by him.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02
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PC gaming GAMES
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| Re: pt barnum was right After the Juice Boosted report, I had people e-mailing me hate-mail, claiming I was a dirty-liar, and that they'd photo-copy their check when received.
It takes a particular brand of dumb to get hooked into these MLM schemes. Usually future spammers... | |
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join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: pt barnum was right said by Karl Bode  :After the Juice Boosted report, I had people e-mailing me hate-mail, claiming I was a dirty-liar, and that they'd photo-copy their check when received. So did they? What was the fate of Juice Boosted and the affiliates? I assumed the whole thing disappeared in puff of smoke, but was anyone taken, suing, or is a criminal actions pending against those involved? | |
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1 edit | Re: pt barnum was right Just evaporated. Nobody got paid. I think we may have taken the legs out from under it. (Google for "Juice Boosted")....
It couldn't be pursued because they never got to the point where they could act on the data they were collecting (as far as I saw)... | |
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join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
clubs:
| Re: pt barnum was right If I were you, I'd be mailing those numbskulls a nice large "I TOLD YOU SO".
In 72 point font.
Subtlety doesn't work these days; you have to ram it down their throats, sideways, preferably with the sharp corners exposed.
Yes I'm being mean, but I caught flak for pointing that scam out too. "omg its legit nuh-uh i ain't listening to you la la la".
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join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA | Here's hoping Johnny Law catches up with their fraudulent scams. | |
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| said by Karl Bode :After the Juice Boosted report, I had people e-mailing me hate-mail, claiming I was a dirty-liar, and that they'd photo-copy their check when received. It takes a particular brand of dumb to get hooked into these MLM schemes. Usually future spammers... Once people get hooked into these things, it's easier for them to believe that they really will get paid rather than admit that they were scammed. It's the same principle that sucks people deeper and deeper into the 411 scams.
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join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| This also shows why any effort to solve online problems - whether scams, spam, viruses, etc. - simply by "educating" users, is doomed to fail. Not only is there a fairly significant portion of users who appear to be incurably gullible; but there is also a constant flow of newbies who may be fooled once and never again, but still provide enough initial fodder to keep scams and schemes going. | |
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| Re: pt barnum was right educate thyself
don't know what you are doing? find out. ignorance is an excuse for being lazy. with search engines being as easy to use as they are, there is no excuse for ignorance
as for scams, if it's about money for little or no work, it's a scam. period. | |
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Turn Left At The Moon
join:2001-02-11
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: pt barnum was right You got that right. From time to time I mail out post cards for my business to make sure I stay busy (or else my wife starts thinking of things like painting the living room, etc.)
I always have my website listed along with my email address and phone. I always ask if they looked up my website. To date 100% have said NO. I find that unbelievable, but that's just me. There IS one born every minute and they are everywhere, and apparently breeding.
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join:2002-08-13
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| Re: pt barnum was right said by winky :my wife starts thinking of things like painting the living room Smear paint all over the ceiling and the trim work. I did that in our bedroom and she hasn't asked me to paint again. | |
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| yeah, I've had jobs that pay more with about the same amount of work. The reasons I initially decided to try netbux were:
1) I only had to give an email adress
2) I didn't have to pay to do it
3) It didn't seem all that great (less than 5 bucks an hour is bellow minimum wage.)
I basically just figured that I would search while brushing my teeth, thus getting paid below minimum wage for something I had been nothing for before (plus it made me brush my teeth a little longer, which was good).
Right now I just waiting for confirmation either way for whether this is a scam or not. until I know, I'm not even going to search while brushing my teeth. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | See look at this. It's the same for every one of these scams....bunch of guys irritating everyone on the internet with "gee shucks got nothin' to lose" mentalities.... | |
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@ucsc.edu
| Re: pt barnum was right "See look at this. It's the same for every one of these scams....bunch of guys irritating everyone on the internet with "gee shucks got nothin' to lose" mentalities...."
What? this is the first post I've made about netbux... how would a "bunch of guys" like me irritate everyone? | |
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| Re: pt barnum was right "I thought it was to good to be true found this forum using google. people gettin suckered really should research this stuff first."
Yeah, I did research it. I couldn't find anything until I was about 5 dollars into it (then for some reason I was able to find scam reporting sites where something other than "SCAM!" was posted). Because I researched it and found that the netbux site was fairly new, I decided to only do it during time when I was already busy (brushing my teeth)so as not to lose any time that I would normally spend doing other things. The only people I talked to about this site were a couple of my freinds, and I also told them to wait until I found out if anyone actually would get paid before signing up(unless they were interested in brushing their teeth and searching as well).
To tell you the truth, I actually profited from this because while I was doing searches, I was brushing my teeth a little longer than usual, which is something I needed to get into the habit of doing. | |
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sic semper tyrannis
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220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: pt barnum was right i was thinking the same thing after i read it later last night, but you beat me to actually posting that. lol great minds think alike. | |
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sic semper tyrannis
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR | Re: pt barnum was right Thanks and it just seemed to be more appropiate, and more accurate in this little senerio.
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| I have made 100.00. I tried the first day it came out getting over 100 referrals, they are still fairly active. Now I'm at 100.00 and I do not even search any every day, my referrals do. So, I'm trying to say is this must be a scam because I'm not even trying and im up to 100.00. If it really pays out, this is the best pay site by far. If it doesn't then people know they wasted their money on referrals and they know that it was a scam anyways. I personall beleive it is. Because it's not possible to pay such a fee to searches and at the same time make a decent profit. | |
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220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: pt barnum was right lol @ you moron | |
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join:2004-06-15
| You wanna know what I find is the biggest problem with this sort of thing...people who are stupid enough to a) use the same email address and b) the same password to sign-up with NetBux as are the ones registered to PayPal. Just asking for fraud if you ask me. | |
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| have any of you signed up for netbux or a similar site, done your searches and not been paid or vise versa? otherwise it seems like i've read lots of posts from know-it-alls with no evidence either way. I personally don't have a problem trying these sites out for myself since i'm not spamming them and do my searches after i'm done at work. Also considering the fact that netbux has only been in existance for a few months and the heavy majority of its members are very recent i find it hard to believe that all these people who are absolutely sure it's a scam even ever had an account or at least earned enough in their first pay period to be paid considering the payout was untill a few days ago 50$ and you could not earn that your first month without lots of very productive refferals. You can't demand proof that they pay from others while claiming they do not pay with no proof. | |
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join:2000-03-02
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PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| Re: pt barnum was right quote:
You can't demand proof that they pay from others while claiming they do not pay with no proof.
Uh, kid, nobody's been paid. That's the proof.
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Mo Dollar Plz
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join:2002-09-01
North Korea
| Heh I'm not suprised really, we had a person start a thread in 'hot deals' forum praising netbux over and over. When I claimed they send you 'spam' email right after you sign up they all jumped and said something along 'no its just one email, it's not going to harm you blahblah'.
Give me a break, all you need is to pay $1 for some teen to have him praise your bullshit scam operation because he made that 'quick' buck.
But what the hell, why would dslr link to those scam artists in article against them.. 
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Turn Left At The Moon
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1 edit | Re: Heh said by Kim Jong :I'm not suprised really, we had a person start a thread in 'hot deals' forum praising netbux over and over. When I claimed they send you 'spam' email right after you sign up they all jumped and said something along 'no its just one email, it's not going to harm you blahblah'. Give me a break, all you need is to pay $1 for some teen to have him praise your bullshit scam operation because he made that 'quick' buck. But what the hell, why would dslr link to those scam artists in article against them.. I'm not the one that started the thread (which can be read here: »[Hot Deal] Free money?)
I however am the one that was "praising" netbux.
Kim Jong obviously though I was involved with Netbux and went off on me. But what's said is said.
I have tried all those "get rich quick" schemes, and they always fail to impress me. They're all the same.
Netbux is different, and people have the proof to show that it pays. The owner is an honest guy who isn't hiding anything.
I am now up to $50 with Netbux.
June 15th I'll be getting my payout, and I will be here to post the proof for everyone who poo-poos Netbux.
Oh, and I STILL haven't got any spam since signing up with Netbux.
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Mo Dollar Plz
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North Korea
| Re: Heh said by parkerbryan :said by Kim Jong :I'm not suprised really, we had a person start a thread in 'hot deals' forum praising netbux over and over. When I claimed they send you 'spam' email right after you sign up they all jumped and said something along 'no its just one email, it's not going to harm you blahblah'. Give me a break, all you need is to pay $1 for some teen to have him praise your bullshit scam operation because he made that 'quick' buck. But what the hell, why would dslr link to those scam artists in article against them.. I'm not the one that started the thread (which can be read here: » [Hot Deal] Free money?) I however am the one that was "praising" netbux. Kim Jong obviously though I was involved with Netbux and went off on me. But what's said is said. I have tried all those "get rich quick" schemes, and they always fail to impress me. They're all the same. Netbux is different, and people have the proof to show that it pays. The owner is an honest guy who isn't hiding anything. I am now up to $50 with Netbux. June 15th I'll be getting my payout, and I will be here to post the proof for everyone who poo-poos Netbux. Oh, and I STILL haven't got any spam since signing up with Netbux. Good for you, not many of us know owners first name and defend focaldex list he is using when you sign up.
Go get em kid!
Btw, quoting again:
"June 15th I'll be getting my payout"
so $50 is all it takes?
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join:2003-11-07
Lexington, KY
| scams are successful because people are gullible Not trying to hijack the thread, but I almost had a fistfight over a scam that was printed on a piece of paper. It was one of those "stuff envelopes for cash" deals that had you send in $29.95 for your "starter pack"(whatever that was) and get you on your way to making big money just by stuffing envelopes.
My friend actually believed it was real, because someone he knew had actually done this. Or so he claimed. In truth, this is a not-very-complex scam that only requires you to believe what is printed on a piece of paper, and then get you to mail money to a rented temporary drop box. One month later, said drop box is gone and you, the unwitting sucker who believes everything he reads, is out $29.95.
Scam over. Why do people continue to fall for it? Desperation. Greed. Stupidity.
Pick your reason. And then send me your money! I will make a millionaire out of you! I can do it! I have done it! All you need to do is believe me!
Would I lie to you, a perfect stranger?
NO, I will not lie to you. I have never lied to you and there is no reason for you to expect me to lie to you....
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| Re: scams are successful because people are gulli Actually, that scam is legal, if the person you send that $30 to sends you a piece of paper back that tells you to put ads in papers and run the scam on others. As long as they follow through with the response, they are legit.
Netbux is like the rest. A few people early on will get some money, so that the company is "legit"
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| I know, I'm an idiot. Ok, please do not make fun but I already registered for Netbux as a non-referral, before I read this article, probably the most idiotic thing I've ever done. Now what do I do, is there any backing out of this? What's going to happen next, will I get a bunch of spam mail now? | |
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| Suspicious? Now the netbux main page has this little beauty at the bottom; "$200 Free - Just for signing up!" So you click on the link, lo and behold it's a bunch of spam sites... however, taking a closer look at the site it links to
http: //mybigsalesmachine.com/
You search a little deeper, and find this little gem; "My Big Sales Machine is a powerful, easy to use, interactive tool that accesses an ever updating online database. When you purchase My Big Sales Machine You only need to download one small application (692kb) to access all the products contained. You receive FREE LIFETIME updates too!
(further down)
Order NOW, Only... $27.95"
Now what does THAT remind you of? Ah, it's all coming together... | |
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join:2005-04-20
Lakewood, CA
| legit or not report well u guys get an actual report saying if its legit or not by waiting for an official report from the Better Business Bureau, they do reports on companies
i posted it in this part of the forum since i cant duplicate my posts
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@mindspring.com
| Re: Judgmental, much? Wow, that's only completely and utterly different. You apparently need to read your link more carefully.
said by Link:
When you post a question to Google Answers, you specify how much you're willing to pay for an answer. A Researcher will search for the information you want. When they find it, they will post it to Google Answers, and you will be notified via email. You will only be charged for your question if and when an answer is posted to it.
You can set a price for information, someone else (hired by Google) can find your answer and get the finders fee, which you pay. How is this in ANY WAY like the netbux scam? O_o | |
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PassingBy
@fiberbit.net
| Who is really gullible? I can't help but shake my head at the people posting here who are so absolutely, adamantly positive that this or that is a scam, and no one can convince them otherwise. How does that make you any different from the people you're mocking, who refuse to believe that a scam is a scam? Both of you are pushing aside any facts or new information and assuming that you know best, no matter what.
People are getting flamed here just for signing up for something like Netbux, but have those flamers actually even given it a chance to find out if it's a scam? Why are you labelling things you know nothing about? If you have no first or second-hand experience of any kind, what gives you the right to pass judgement on it?
This is a new sort of business in the world, brought about by the internet. Some of them, one can suppose, will turn out to be scams, but it seems rather foolish to make blanketed statements with minimal, if any, data to back them up.
Some of the first major, successful businesses of this type, such as freeipods.com and others from the Gratis network have been investigated by many different parties, and I have yet to read a single report that finds them to be illegitimate. If you actually took the time to research before you pass your judgement, you could check them out with the Better Business Bureau and you'll find only a handful of complaints at best, most, if not all of which have been resolved. This is not to say you'll get your item or money for nothing; you have to put in the effort and follow the steps.
All that said, the only site of this kind I have signed up for is freedvds.com, and I can tell you that I have received about 5 DVD's to date, brand new, shipped free, at no more charge to me than perhaps $1 per DVD accrued by certain trial offers. Not only that, but they even replaced one DVD for me which was damaged during shipping, again at no charge and with no red tape. For suspending skepticism and actually taking the time to find out things for myself rather than just blindly attacking others, I have gotten essentially for free what would have otherwise cost me a fair amount of money. I have not tried any other "referral" sites because that's simply not my kind of thing. I do, however, have a friend who now has an iPod which cost nothing, courtesy of Gratis.
If any of you self-important, deaf-to-anything-outside-of-your-own-mind folks have actually read and considered what I've written, perhaps you will, if nothing else, find a different way to feed your egos than rampantly flaming anyone whose opinions differ from yours. I'm certainly no spokesman for free money/prize sites - and note when I say that it's quite possible that some are scams. But, perhaps instead of quoting P.T. Barnum (although I do agree with his quote as well), you should consider that "It is a wise man who knows there is much he does not know." Take some time to find facts to support your case, and you'll be much more persuasive. Until then, you sound like a pompous jerk. | |
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| Re: Who is really gullible? Well, I have new found reasons to think that netbux is a scam. Ok, they just changed everything over to shares. If you had like $5.26 before, you now have 526 shares. You get 1 share per search. They haven't really decided on how much money 1 share will be worth, but they said atleast 1 cent, hoping for 2 or 3 cents. They said you can make 1 to 5 cents per share. Now, if they were a real true to their word company and were actually handing out this money, they would never promise more than 1 cent per search. Reason is, for that person who had 526 shares now, say netbux gives out 3 cents a share. This person now has 3 times as much money as he had before they converted everything to shares. Now, seeing as the people who still don't believe this is a scam are still searching, the shares they are getting from the most recent searches are added to the shares they got converted from their amount of money they had before. Unless Netbux has some way of detecting how many shares they had before they started searching after they changed all of this, then hundreds of thousands of users would be getting 3 times the amount expected before this. Some people have over $30 easy, on average people would be getting like 60 dollars more. This money can't magically appear, so where would netbux be getting this money if they were actually expecting to pay people. Obviously netbux isnt too worried about how much money they would be losing in this, because they can't lose any money when they aren't paying anyone. And I don't see how they are going to be able to check every single person's searches they had before this new update thing, considering they have hundreds of thousands of users. That would take an incredible amount of effort. | |
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| Re: Who is really gullible? have any of you signed up for netbux or a similar site, done your searches and not been paid or vise versa? otherwise it seems like i've read lots of posts from know-it-alls with no evidence either way. I personally don't have a problem trying these sites out for myself since i'm not spamming them and do my searches after i'm done at work. Also considering the fact that netbux has only been in existance for a few months and the heavy majority of its members are very recent i find it hard to believe that all these people who are absolutely sure it's a scam even ever had an account or at least earned enough in their first pay period to be paid considering the payout was untill a few days ago 50$ and you could not earn that your first month without lots of very productive refferals. You can't demand proof that they pay from others while claiming they do not pay with no proof. | |
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| Re: have i been stupid Sometimes we have to find out for ourselves.
I'm new to netbux and reading all the negative things makes me sick.
Find out for yourself.
If you haven't put money into it and its a scam,you've only wasted your time and not your money.
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Rotten Ice
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| I wish this had been here before I signed up with netbux but i have not put any money into it and rarely search. the latest version era cash even shows a pyramid structure (mmm). It has always appeared to be to good to be true and thats why i paid no money but in pyramid schemes ppl do get paid as this is always the case with pyramids some people get paid alot dont. and allthough i think that it is more then likely a scam their is money to be made early on. However i wont be paying any money to jump on the bandwagon but dont mind waisting time searching for 10 min a night. If it turns out to be a scam then ive lost nothing but time and if it isn't then i can earn some free dollars to spend in project entropia  | |
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| suckers I was paid $92 yesterday and I never invested a dime, you can see the screenshot on the unofficial forum at mynetbux.com. Suckers... I and many others don't care if it's a "scam". In life these are winners and losers, there is no such thing as "everybody wins". If you're so against these things, go after tobacco companies that reap millions while paying $0.20 cents per hour to a plantage worker. Geez you guys are stupid. Anyways, that's $92 I have that you don't. Withdrew from PayPal to my checking account and it's there already.
You guys just don't know how to do your due diligence. This program has paid in April and May. I bet it will pay at least in June (I wont be around netbux then though) and after that it will collapse. I say you're stupid if you don't take the opportunity and take the money while it's there. You don't even have to invest anything, I gained over 30 refs by just posting my ref link on a free autosurf.
Get a brain, what's there to lose? I spent a grand total of 5 minutes on an autosurf for refs and got paid while you suckers kept on whining about how it's a scam. Boohoo. Now go to mommy and ask for money so that you can buy your damn food and shut up. | |
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Blastot
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| Is Netbux & Paypup a scam? I don't think they are scams.
For one they have already paid their members.
Also the way they are run, there is no problem in generating enough revenues to pay all users
A lot of paid to search programs have been launched recently following these 2.
All of them look promising.
You can check out a comprehensive review of paid to search sites at this site »getpaidtosearch.50webs.com | |
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@com.au | Re: Is Netbux & Paypup a scam? Definitely scams. Netbux has completely disappeared. | |
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join:2005-06-14
Port Hueneme, CA
|  It's gone and i'm not surprised!!!
and no they're virtually disappeared... clicking to "netbux.org" sends you to another site that simply says "searchoodles" with a text box and the option to try a few different search engines... and, to no surprise, the "contact us" link just doesn't seem to be working
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