dslreports logo
 story category
Advanced Millimeter Wave Radio
An alternative to laser broadband?
Advanced millimeter-wave radio, a short range wireless transmission concept created in Hawaii, supposedly offers most of the perks of laser broadband, without the traditional line of sight issues (damn pigeons!). According to the Honolulu Star Bulletin, the first generation of Loea commercial transceivers send and receive data at a rate of 1.25 gigabits per second at distances of up to 1.75 kilometers, or almost 1.1 miles. More information on the technology can be found here.
view:
topics flat nest 

Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
kudos:2

Jerm

Member

So lets see...

1.25gbps @ 1.1 miles, for only $100,000?!

Sign me up! You do take Visa right? And my name is Bob Barker...

C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium Member
join:2001-10-03
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI

C0deZer0

Premium Member

Interesting stuff

It's funny how a place as relatively remote as Hawaii can get broadband throughout where there are many rural states where it's practically non-existent here in the lower 48.

on the other hand though, latency has to be a huge issue for them. So far off from the mainland, ping times to most websites must be horrendous.

ss4vegito7
join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

ss4vegito7

Member

Re: Interesting stuff

said by C0deZer0:

It's funny how a place as relatively remote as Hawaii can get broadband throughout where there are many rural states where it's practically non-existent here in the lower 48.

on the other hand though, latency has to be a huge issue for them. So far off from the mainland, ping times to most websites must be horrendous.
I'm pretty sure one of the first networks were run between hawaii's islands. go figure
bbenso1
join:2004-11-28
Baltimore, MD

bbenso1

Member

Re: Interesting stuff

said by ss4vegito7:

I'm pretty sure one of the first networks were run between hawaii's islands. go figure
Yup, I think it was called AlohaNET. I believe it was the first wireless network, but I could be wrong about that.

Angralitux
join:2004-05-20
DO

Angralitux to ss4vegito7

Member

to ss4vegito7
why ping times would be so bad as you state??

fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
Premium Member
join:2001-05-25
Limbo

fireflier

Premium Member

Re: Interesting stuff

I believe he's basing that on the assumption that since they're an island, their internet trunk is via satellite. Personally, I have no idea. I'd guess satellite too, but I wouldn't be too surprised to find out they have a massive fiber running back to the mainland.
Seaboogers
join:2004-11-01
Sarasota, FL

Seaboogers

Member

Re: Interesting stuff

It's probably a combination of both. I do know there are massive groups of trans-pacific cables out there....between Hawaii-Australia and Hawaii-Japan.
ke4pym
Premium Member
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
·Northland Cable ..
·Time Warner Cable
·VOIPO
·ooma

ke4pym to fireflier

Premium Member

to fireflier
Its usually bad to assume. A fast google search revealed this, as the first link

»www.bizjournals.com/paci ··· y21.html
Seaboogers
join:2004-11-01
Sarasota, FL

Seaboogers to C0deZer0

Member

to C0deZer0
said by C0deZer0:

on the other hand though, latency has to be a huge issue for them. So far off from the mainland, ping times to most websites must be horrendous.
I sure hope that was a "sarcastic" remark about being so far away?

Guest2
@rr.com

Guest2

Anon

Re: Interesting stuff

It is fiber. Latency not a REAL issue here.

djrobx
Premium Member
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:4

djrobx

Premium Member

Re: Interesting stuff

At least on ALTER.NET it looks to be around 55-60ms from Sacramento, CA to Honolulu. Probably wouldn't be too noticeable unless you game.

-- Rob

mamoon
@fdn.com

mamoon

Anon

Millimeter wave Radio

Check out GigaBeam website for more on their offerings. I found it informative.
jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Euclid, OH

jimbo2150

Member

Comeback?

"AM" radio makes a comeback, lol!
russotto
join:2000-10-05
West Orange, NJ

russotto

Member

Please fire marketing department!

Their picture (and the article) claims millimeter-wave radio is longer-wavelength than microwave, and the picture (but not the article) states that the frequencies are between 7-9 billion cycles per second.

Sorry. Microwaves have wavelengths from 3mm to 30cm; Millimeter-wave is shorter than that. And the frequencies are 30-300GHz, not 7-9 GHz (which is still microwave); they're using frequencies between 70-90 GHz, which is probably what they meant.


How about ..