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| Re: Yahoo is a snitch... all i got to say is SHAME on Yahoo, so what to Chinese gov wanted to know they didn't point a gun to Yahoo executives to identify the source of the news, everyone should boycott Yahoo starting with me  | |
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| Re: Wrong idea so if the a US court subpoena Yahoo into releasing a specific user's identity, everyone here will think yahoo should ignore the laws of the USA and not give it out right? Just because a company disagrees with a government's policy does not give them the right to dis obey the laws. and if in China they want to do business they have to follow their law no matter how unjust we all think it is. it's that simple. You cannot have it both ways. either they follow all laws where ever they do business or they follow none. | |
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| Re: Wrong idea so if the a US court subpoena Yahoo into releasing a specific user's identity, everyone here will think yahoo should ignore the laws of the USA and not give it out right?
Absolutely, if it related to some sort of dissidence or political resistance. Then again, I'm a journalist.
And why can't you have it both ways? There is NOTHING logically unfounded in obeying non-corrupt laws and disobeying corrupt laws. | |
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| Business is business, eh? Well, helping arrest and facillitate prosecution of political dissidents in a country where such non-violent opposition to the state can mean a long prison term, as in this case, or even death is not the business of Yahoo!.
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| Re: Wrong idea So who decide what's right and wrong? moral and immoral? hmm I like to think it would evolve through civil protest and these decisions are not made by a CEO in yahoo. I don't support China's policies however disagree with a law does not mean you do not have to obey it. Take the DMCA or the patriot act. i mean god damn these are stupid laws if u can even call it that... Which btw are in every way as bad as some of China's policies... Yet as civilized people we should form protests and peaceful resolutions but still obey the laws as long as it is in effect. Don't forget we still have segregation in certain small areas of the US. and only 50 years ago schools are separated black and white. These crimes are 100 times worst than anything you can fine in China who's government is less than 90 years old. 90 years after the US government was form we still had slavery. geez. That was a long tangent, back to the point. I neither want yahoo to be my moral compass nor do I want they to break any laws regardless of which country base on what they think is right or wrong mainly because their idea of right /wrong may not be the same as mine and morality is subjective, the law is not.
Why is this important? well What if on the flip side We had a Chinese company in the US who had information on a real criminal, but for one reason or another they refuse to give it to us based on some moral standing that only applies to them. See this ladder swings both ways. No, disagreeing with policy doesn't not give you or anyone the right to ignore it. | |
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| Re: Wrong idea said by zemus  :Why is this important? well What if on the flip side We had a Chinese company in the US who had information on a real criminal, but for one reason or another they refuse to give it to us based on some moral standing that only applies to them. See this ladder swings both ways. No, disagreeing with policy doesn't not give you or anyone the right to ignore it. What you described as the "get out of jail free card".Is more known as diplomatic immunity. So this ladder does not quite swing both ways.These foreign criminals are givin' free reign in the U.S. Then the proper agency's here, tuck them into first class seats making sure they are comfy and have a safe plain ride home.
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| said by zemus :so if the a US court subpoena Yahoo into releasing a specific user's identity, everyone here will think yahoo should ignore the laws of the USA and not give it out right? Just because a company disagrees with a government's policy does not give them the right to dis obey the laws. and if in China they want to do business they have to follow their law no matter how unjust we all think it is. it's that simple. You cannot have it both ways. either they follow all laws where ever they do business or they follow none. Here here, finally someone with sense, in the end you can't fight the goverment, at least not in a civilized way, no wonder we have big problems in the world. Since we can't do anything about it, then don't get all mad when people go crazy and do real bad things to other people. | |
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| Re: Give Me a Break said by FS-DAN :
So he was jailed for 10 years because he had something to say about press restrictions. Give me a break.
Welcome to China.
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| Re: Give Me a Break said by izy :said by FS-DAN :
So he was jailed for 10 years because he had something to say about press restrictions. Give me a break.
Welcome to China. Yeah, but they have GIG fiber links and are so far ahead of the US broadband industry as we see reported time and time again here on DSLR.
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| Re: Give Me a Break said by Monster Rain :said by izy :said by FS-DAN :
So he was jailed for 10 years because he had something to say about press restrictions. Give me a break.
Welcome to China. Yeah, but they have GIG fiber links and are so far ahead of the US broadband industry as we see reported time and time again here on DSLR. Ahhah! So by having "GIG fiber links and are so far ahead of the US broadband industry" makes jailing someone for 10 years for speaking freely OK? I fail to see your point....
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1 edit | said by izy :Ahhah! So by having "GIG fiber links and are so far ahead of the US broadband industry" makes jailing someone for 10 years for speaking freely OK? That's the clincher. He wasn't speaking freely. Speaking freely isn't allowed in a communist country.
He violated that countries laws, plain and simple.
This has nothing to do with free speech, or free journalism, or any freedom whatsoever. They don't allow it.
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| And what happens... And what happens if Yahoo refuses to give information to the Chinese authorities?
My guess would be the information would be obtained anyways and Yahoo then has strained relations with a government they are trying to get along with.
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| Re: And what happens... said by Bill :And what happens if Yahoo refuses to give information to the Chinese authorities? My guess would be the information would be obtained anyways and Yahoo then has strained relations with a government they are trying to get along with. I agree. Yahoo has to comply with state authorities if they want to do business in China. As long as they are following Chinese law, I have no problem with it. It isn't Yahoo's job to reform the Chinese government. If some think Chinese law needs changing, feel free to go over there and protest. I'll send them a Red Cross pkg to whichever prison they are sent to.
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| Re: And what happens... Then whose job is it? We certainly made it our job to march freedom into the middle east, didn't we?
Liberty isn't as important in China because we like our walmarts stocked with everything from a-z for 99 cents?
Then again, the greedy aren't really known for bothering with subtleties like hypocrisy.
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| Re: And what happens... said by LiamJunket :Money rules the world. ...or so the Republicans would have you believe.
I, on the other hand, live in the real world, where there is still poverty and poor people, disease and sick people, lack of food and hungry children, discrimination and those discriminated against.
Instead of playing Ostrich or claiming to 'go with the flow' or "get run over"...I admit there are problems and do my part to fix them.
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| Re: And what happens... The problem is, Yahoo is not in a position to fix anything going on in China. The only ones powerful enough to force change in China is the US government.
But, of course, as soon as the US government would show any interest in China's political issues, the same people complaining about "imperialism in the Middle East" would be complaining about the US government trying to change China. There is no happy medium between the two.
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| Re: And what happens... said by Bill :The problem is, Yahoo is not in a position to fix anything going on in China. The only ones powerful enough to force change in China is the US government. But, of course, as soon as the US government would show any interest in China's political issues, the same people complaining about "imperialism in the Middle East" would be complaining about the US government trying to change China. There is no happy medium between the two. This is not necessarily the case. The Chinese economy and way of life is slowly modernizing in the way that any die-hard conservative could appreciate. GDP has risen steadily and social freedoms have crept to the people slowly. The situation in China has certainly improved, both for human rights and industrial production, and, unlike the Marxists contended, it has not done so at the cost of lives. Conversely, as economy and industrial production in China have increased, so too have the lives of its populace.
However, there is a long long road ahead until human rights in China is where it needs to be. The best way to do this is for the economic sector to put pressure on the Chinese government and say "listen, we're not going to allow this in your industry, if you want to continue economic prosperity, you're going to have make certain concessions slightly faster or our (country's) business goes elsewhere."
If the US government got involved in an overthrow in China it would be atrocious for everyone on earth. China would be thrown into instability and see its GDP collapse, the United State would see its GDP collapse and full irreparably into debt, and frankly, the world would probably suffer more than a handful of atomic weapons related fatalities. | |
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| There is just one minor difference....the only reason we haven't gone to war with China. Well two. They don't have oil and they have a gigantic military. (By the way, when their soldiers fight, and die, people mourn them as heroes...they don't hang ribbons on trees. And the soldiers join the military to serve their country, not for free tuition)
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| Re: And what happens... said by kapil :(By the way, when their soldiers fight, and die, people mourn them as heroes...they don't hang ribbons on trees. And the soldiers join the military to serve their country, not for free tuition) LMAO!!! That's the funniest think I've seen you spew on these forums...
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| Re: And what happens... what the hell are you on? are you thinking about Mainland China or taiwan? because only taiwan does that, and south korea. Mainland China doesnt force anyone to join military hahaha get your facts straight
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| Re: And what happens... said by MizTEcK :what the hell are you on? are you thinking about Mainland China or taiwan? because only taiwan does that, and south korea. Mainland China doesnt force anyone to join military hahaha get your facts straightfunniest "think" i've seen YOU spew on these forums indeed YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG. You should be more careful about your claims without backing them up.
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| said by kapil :said by LiamJunket :Money rules the world. ...or so the Republicans would have you believe. I, on the other hand, live in the real world, where there is still poverty and poor people, disease and sick people, lack of food and hungry children, discrimination and those discriminated against. Did anyone else hear the screech of tires as he slammed his Opinionmobile 2000 GX into reverse.
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| said by kapil :said by LiamJunket :Money rules the world. ...or so the Republicans would have you believe. Oh, I'm not so sure you won't find a few Democrats that support the idea that money rules the world ... You might even find out that Democrats have a few skeletons in the closet WRT China as well. Let me help you start here:
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said by kapil :I, on the other hand, live in the real world, Apparently not, for if you did you would have long ago realized that MONEY rules BOTH parties. You would have recognized that NOBODY here endorsed that as a good thing and the Republicans do not have the corner on corruption.
Unfortunately you are so naieve as to wish to blame Republicans for:
said by kapil : where there is still poverty and poor people, disease and sick people, lack of food and hungry children, discrimination and those discriminated against. which is completey unrealistic.
said by kapil :Instead of playing Ostrich or claiming to 'go with the flow' or "get run over"...I admit there are problems and do my part to fix them. The first thing you can do is get the beam out of your own eye. Then you will be able to see clearly enought to get the politics out of your posts and discuss these sorts of issues rationally.
said by kapil :Just because things are this bad, doesn't mean they have to stay that way. Maybe then you will realize that MOST people, regardless of party affiliation are with you in this sentiment.
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| said by LiamJunket :Money rules the world. Accept it or not. Fight that concept and you get run over. Not really the world is not ruled my money, only a small part of the world is run by money, and even a smaller part of that world has money. I would say New Orleans is not one of those that had the money. | |
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| Amen to that statement Retire,it also makes the world go round.As one poster tried to pin that sentiment on Republicians.Democrats bow just as equally to the same god of money,along with every corporation in existance, right done to the company that signs your pay check.
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| Re: And what happens... said by pleekmo :Messier 39 is an "intermediate age" open star cluster. Unlikely to have a supernova occur there. Just so you-all know... That's actually my point.  | |
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| said by kapil :Then whose job is it? We certainly made it our job to march freedom into the middle east, didn't we? I can affirmatively say it's not Yahoo's job. Nor did Yahoo send their nonexistent army into any country. Yahoo is a company not a government, nor a private citizen.
said by kapil :Then again, the greedy aren't really known for bothering with subtleties like hypocrisy. It's only hypocrisy if you pretend that Yahoo is something that they're not, a classification that you will only stick to until it no longer furthers your political agenda. I'll let you figure out what that makes you, although a phrase about pots and kettles is involved.
With that in mind I think what they did was a bad thing and as such I will continue to not use any service that has the Yahoo name on it, just like I do with Walmart; something that those who scream the loudest seem not to be willing to do.
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| Re: And what happens... said by Combat Chuck :With that in mind I think what they did was a bad thing and as such I will continue to not use any service that has the Yahoo name on it, just like I do with Walmart; something that those who scream the loudest seem not to be willing to do. Hey, I'm with you there. I can count the purchases I've made at WalMart on one hand:
-forgot jeans on a vacation, went to "town" (which is now basically WalMart and Burger King) and bought a pair of faux-Levis
-the missus had a relative with an all WalMart registry, bought a freezer
-bought car wash/wax while vacationing in Florida
The most recent purchase was three years ago.
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1 edit | said by kapil :Then whose job is it? We certainly made it our job to march freedom into the middle east, didn't we? Take it to the blue room...
said by kapil :Liberty isn't as important in China because we like our walmarts stocked with everything from a-z for 99 cents? It is as important in China as it is in the middle east but of course Walmart being stocked has absolutely NOTHING to do with Communism's intolerance of free speech.
said by kapil :Then again, the greedy aren't really known for bothering with subtleties like hypocrisy. ... and Liberals are not really known for their tolerance or their critical thinking skills ... they are widely known for turning every damn conversation into something that BELONGS IN THE BLUE ROOM...
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| said by LiamJunket :said by Bill :And what happens if Yahoo refuses to give information to the Chinese authorities? My guess would be the information would be obtained anyways and Yahoo then has strained relations with a government they are trying to get along with. I agree. Yahoo has to comply with state authorities if they want to do business in China. As long as they are following Chinese law, I have no problem with it. It isn't Yahoo's job to reform the Chinese government. If some think Chinese law needs changing, feel free to go over there and protest. I'll send them a Red Cross pkg to whichever prison they are sent to. And everyone knows a mere human life has less value than good business relations. Amoral twits!
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| said by LiamJunket :said by Bill :And what happens if Yahoo refuses to give information to the Chinese authorities? My guess would be the information would be obtained anyways and Yahoo then has strained relations with a government they are trying to get along with. I agree. Yahoo has to comply with state authorities if they want to do business in China. As long as they are following Chinese law, I have no problem with it. It isn't Yahoo's job to reform the Chinese government. If some think Chinese law needs changing, feel free to go over there and protest. I'll send them a Red Cross pkg to whichever prison they are sent to. Individuals have very little sway in how a government acts. However, other governments and large corporations DO have sway. Why would Yahoo allow itself to do business in such an unethical way with an unethical government? That is the sign of capital corruption at its best, willingness to compromise with unethical practices in order to ensure one's own economic prosperity. Sell out the needy to take home more cash.
Whose job is it to reform the Chinese government? The Chinese government's? Well, they certainly won't do that. Whose job was it to reform the North Vietnamese government? Whose job was it to reform the Afghani government? Whose job was it to reform the Iraqi government? Whose job was it to reform the Soviet government? Whose job was it to reform the German government? Whose job was it to reform Latin America's governments? Carry on, ad. infinity. | |
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| said by LiamJunket :said by Bill :I agree. Yahoo has to comply with state authorities if they want to do business in China. As long as they are following Chinese law, I have no problem with it. It isn't Yahoo's job to reform the Chinese government. If some think Chinese law needs changing, feel free to go over there and protest. I'll send them a Red Cross pkg to whichever prison they are sent to. Well put. You would no more expect Yahoo! to ignore Chinese law as you would a Chinese company doing business in this country to completely disregard our customs. Any company who goes into another country and tries to do business exactly as it does in its home country will not survive, whether the country is a democracy, or a banana republic or totalitarian Communist dictatorship, or whatever. Sure, it would be nice if Yahoo! could usher in Western-world free speech in China, and at some point in the future, once they establish trust with the Chinese government, they may do just that. But for now, as they are in the relationship-establishing stage they need to demonstrate that they can be a good corporate citizen in the Chinese landscape. | |
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| said by Bill :And what happens if Yahoo refuses to give information to the Chinese authorities? My guess would be the information would be obtained anyways and Yahoo then has strained relations with a government they are trying to get along with. The issue is companies instead of trying to get "along" with China should be using their power to force China to change their ways.
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|  Aaah the joys of globalization!
Why can't an American corporation be in the news for something GOOD for a change? And why can't our companies go overseas and not screw the local population?
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| Tightrope Well, the two-faced nature of dealing with tyrants becomes apparent from time to time. Sadly, I am surprised at neither this sentence or the fact that Yahoo! helped make it happen.
A more telling tale might be what happens when Google, with it's philosophy statement #6, "You can make money without doing evil," is faced with a similar situation.
Commerce with China is beginning to remind me of the stories of the German-American Bund in the 1930's.
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| Re: Tightrope A corporation that makes it a point to say that they promise to do no 'evil' has a better chance of adhering to it than one that is too big a coward to even take a stance on the matter.
I'm not saying Google would have fared better in this situation, but they thought enough of not doing things like this to put it on the list of things they stand for as a company.
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| To all those who say "Yahoo can't change China" Yahoo by itself is certainly incapable of changing China's policies. However, if we put restrictions on any company doing business in China, we can indeed influence their policies. If every company can tell China "Hey, my government won't let me do that for you," relations between companies and the Chinese government won't/can't be strained, and they'll be forced to choose between doing business with us or not at all.
We've given them a taste of capitalism, and now (but not for long) we're in a position to dangle it as a carrot. Most UN economic powers would be willing to follow suit, and they'd pretty much have to do what we asked.
If they choose to follow our requests, their economy grows and we've helped alleviate human rights abuses. If they choose to ignore our demands, their economy once again goes in the gutter and ours raises again.
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Chinese Government Official: "We'd like you to provide the IP information for this Chinese citizen. He is under suspicion of a crime."
Yahoo Corporate Executive: "We don't do that sort of thing."
CGO: "Perhaps you don't understand. This 'request' is not something you can refuse."
YCE: "Yeah, well, it's against our po-"
CGO: "I don't care if it's against your policy. Chinese law says you will give me the data that we request in the course of a criminal investigation. You can either hand it over or suffer the consequences of your actions."
YCE: *sneering* "Like what?"
CGO: "Nationalization of all of your assets in this country and automatic deportation, for starters. I don't think you get it. Corporations may run rough-shod over the goverment in your country, but here, we are the ultimate authority. You follow - and obey - our laws or you suffer."
YCE: "We'll lodge a protest with our go-."
CGO: "And that protest will go nowhere. This doesn't have international complications. This is an internal criminal prosecution, committed on Chinese soil by a Chinese citizen accused of violating Chinese laws. If the American government sees fit to interfere, let them send troops. Our response will be ICBMS with nuclear warheads."
YCE: *blinks in shock*
CGO: "Our culture has lasted for thousands of year. China has been in existence in one for or another for just as long. Your values are not ours and we are not about to allow Western powers to tell us how to conduct our internal affairs yet again. The last time we did it, China was divided between the Germany, Russia, Britain, and France. Now then, shut up and turn over the data - or pack your bags. Your choice."
YCE: *meekly hands over data*
CGO: *walks out muttering about how Americans think they're all that* | |
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| jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Food For Thought.... Yeah, or it could have been more like a phone call to Yahoo's counsel, who says "This policy is clearly spelled out in our terms of service. Give them the info and leave it alone". | |
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| Your situation is highly unlikely if the YCE is half competent. First China does't want nuke war it would be as bad for them as for us. Next if that were to be publicized then the Chinese government wouldn't be in too good a spotlight with the rest of the world. | |
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
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| Re: Food For Thought.... Huh? They're commies. What did you expect, the kid glove treatment? Outright war may be out of the picture, but if you think they're gonna roll out the red carpet just because you're doing business with them, think again.
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join:2001-11-29
| Your situation is highly unlikely if the YCE is half competent. First China does't want nuke war it would be as bad for them as for us. Next if that were to be publicized then the Chinese government wouldn't be in too good a spotlight with the rest of the world.
Er, I would say you are a mite optimistic on that.
First, China is well aware that nuclear war would hurt us more than it would hurt them. Their society is better positioned to survive one than ours is.
Two, if that were publicized, you would have every nation in the world outside of Britain and the USA saying the equiavalent of "Bloody too right, telling YCE to sod off." | |
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jap
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1 edit | I'd rather write about the article, but.... Upon reflection, I do not wish to partake in this thread. | |
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GilbertMark
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join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ | No "Waaaaay out ahead of you. Anyone that's been using Yahoo anything for the last 6-7 years was already an idiot."
No Angrychair, it is you who is the idiot. | |
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FiL
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Silver Spring, MD
| nicely put... "...or so the Republicans would have you believe.
I, on the other hand, live in the real world, where there is still poverty and poor people, disease and sick people, lack of food and hungry children, discrimination and those discriminated against.
Instead of playing Ostrich or claiming to 'go with the flow' or "get run over"...I admit there are problems and do my part to fix them.
Just because things are this bad, doesn't mean they have to stay that way."
very well said...I think Yahoo crossed the line but also did what "Laws" are in place dictate to do...
now that doesnt mean i cant point the feeenger.lol f*ck Yahoo for givin that man ten years behind bars...i think the RWB's comment about collaborating with unjust laws was well put, what gives this American Company the right to undermine George Dubya Bush's "Freedom for All!" chess moves?
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join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX
| Re: nicely put... If you do the crime, you do the time.
How stupid could you really be?
If you did something illegal in your country on the computer and thought that they couldn't catch you, at least do it on a computer that's not yours, and where your identity is not revealed.
What a moron | |
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phieudu1
join:2004-11-06
San Jose, CA | My 2 cents Well, I could not judge Yahoo right or wrong?
but I'm extremely happy with the fact that I'm living in a Free country. | |
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Yahoo Helped Jail Chinese Journalist
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