 |  | 
HappyBunny
Hi. Cram It.
Premium
join:2001-06-23
Long Beach, CA | Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using P2P This happened to me when I tried to download Season 6 of Oz. I will buy it when it comes out, but its NOT out, and I am impatient to see it! | |
| | 
pulp39
Premium
join:2003-01-28
Ottawa, ON
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using Help me out here fellahs. Taking a cursory look at the newsgroups, I can find Rome in 4 different ones. EVERYTHING is in Usenet. Why the fawk are they bothering with P2P when everything can be had in the newsgroups anyways?!
Secondly, how come the RIAA, etc... aren't shutting down News Servers for offering exactly what they are trying to shut down in P2P?
I just don't get it...
--
"Rogers needs to buy the CN Tower and call it Rogers Tower. This way, TED can shoot laser beams out his ass to our modems when we go over 100 Gigs." - MoeB -LMFFAO!!! | |
| | | 
badtrip
East Bay
Premium
join:2004-03-20
Berkeley, CA
 ·Comcast
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using said by pulp39  :Help me out here fellahs. Taking a cursory look at the newsgroups, I can find Rome in 4 different ones. EVERYTHING is in Usenet. Why the fawk are they bothering with P2P when everything can be had in the newsgroups anyways?! Secondly, how come the RIAA, etc... aren't shutting down News Servers for offering exactly what they are trying to shut down in P2P? I just don't get it... Because 99 out of 100 computer users don't know how to use usenet. That is if they have even heard about it.
With usenet, you have to find a decent client, configure the client and if your isp has shit usenet, subscribe to a usenet service. That's alot more trouble than a simple "point and click" bt client.
RIAA and such can't shut down news servers because newsgroups have documented legal uses. Usenet has been around for decades, it's not going anywhere
Rome is a damn good show, BTW. I don't shed a tear for RIAA , video game companies or MPAA for piracy because as far as I'm concerned, the amount of value thier products give is alot less than the price they want us to pay (in most cases). However, at $12 a month, 7 channels of HBO is a great value for the $$ considering all the quality, commercial free programming they offer. Hell, I mostly watch HBO and suppliment with IFC, Sundance and Starz. | |
| | | | xrobertcmx
Premium
join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
clubs:  | Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using I'm with you on that one. I spend the $12 a month for HBO just for Rome.
--
4 More years and we won't have a country. | |
| | | | | | | | | 
G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using Yes, but they are working to make what you are doing illegal. By definition, Tivo/etc aren't supposed to record PPV, On Demand, etc. The corporate overlords have decreed that you will only watch the show on their terms. The concept of 'Tv your way' is illegal in their minds.
Remember, the correct way to watch tv is as follows.
#1: Pay the 20.00 base fee for 15 or so channels.
#2: Pay an additional 45.00 for a package to get the 2 channels you care about.
#3: If you want HDTV, pay an additional 10.00 + 5.00 per box
#4: Ok, you've paid for the basics, and the right to watch TV, now it's time to rape you for some more money. We'll start by saying 'It's illegal to record PPV shows'. Tivo has bent over and agreed with them, and the cable cards (which 'should' work in a PC, but don't) also don't let you get PPV. So you need to pay the 5.00 to watch on demand.
But wait, you paid for HBO? Why should you pay 5.00 for the On Demand Version? Ahh, but of course, you could have recorded it with the comcast HDTV recorder. It will store it up to 3 days after the original show date. So you have 3 days to watch it.
#5: Hmm.. We want to rip you off some more. Well, you're not allowed to transfer the show you legally recorded from On Demand, or even from HBO to a DVD. Remember, if you want to watch it a week after it's aired, you'll need to pay for the On Demand again. If you want to record the entire season for your archives, you're out of luck. You'll need to pay an additional 100.00 for the DVD set when it's released.
#6: Wait, we can screw you some more. Lets add a broadcast flag, and prevent you from recording even over the air shows, NFL shows, or any pay show (i.e. Sunday ticket, showtime, Discovery channel, etc). I mean, if you really want to watch it, you could use On Demand, and pay us 5.00 per viewing.
#7: Ouch. You still have some cash left. Lets see how we can screw you some more. Ahh, well, we can't take YOUR cash anymore, but we can take more advertisers cash. We'll just make it so you can't skip commercials anymore! I mean, Disney raped the DVD format, by adding in unskippable ads to the beginning of their DVD's, why can't the MPAA do the same for everything? It's MORE MONEY for them!
#8: Ok, so, we've screwed you pretty much every way we can think of so far, but don't worry, we have new idea's on the horizon. Those nasty open source people are making devices that let you record what you want, when you want it, and remove all the commercials. We the MPAA need to buy some more politicians to stop it. We'll need to think long term, since the political expense to try and stop open-source is too high. Ahh, wait, We can say that terrorist are using it! The perfect problem, cause everyone hates terrorists. And the solution to stop the terrorist is the TPM (trusted chip). We'll get microsoft to make it so that nothing works without the chip! Then, we can make the patriot act III declare that any computer in the US that does not have a TPM based chip is illegal, cause only terrorist would bypass the TPM. That will let us release our content on computer format, at outrageous prices, and we can rape you one more time!
#9: Damn, not making enough money yet says the MPAA. Looks like we'll need to tie your viewing into a database, and cross reference which ads you've watched. If you haven't purchased enough of the items from your corporate masters, based on the ads we showed you, we will automatically bill you to make up for the shortfall. After all, only terrorists don't support the US economy.
#10: Running out of ideas on how to get more money? Not yet, the MPAA has a new plan. If you have 5 people in your house, you need to pay 5 times. After all, nothing is free, and if only one person pays, yet 5 people watch the show, you have been ripping off the hard working MPAA members, and those 4 people need to be punished. We'll charge them automatically. It's the only fair way.
#11: Looks like you've finally run out of money, but don't worry, there's an easy fix. Remember, you don't actually BUY anything in the entire scenario. You just rent it. We'll shorten the time frame for everything, and bill you again! I mean, if you heard the song on the radio, you need to pay again. If you watch the DVD you purchased more than once, you are depriving the director and the sound stage workers their rightful hard earned money. You exist to service the corporations, not the other way around..
Welcome to America 2015, courtesy of G. Dubyah and the Patriot Act 3, as well as the supporting staff of our fascist corporate overlords.
--
Grand Poobah | |
| | | | | | 
AnonBlong
@rr.com
 from:
Savant
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using Wow man... sounds like you really want some TV for free?
I mean, you work right? Everyday? Maybe you should be paid once and then work for free after that.
I make software, and every person who wants to use one of my products is going to pay me. Know why? BECAUSE I MADE IT AND THATS HOW I DO BUSINESS!
If you do not like it, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE IT!
Geez why is it everyone thinks making money is evil? IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY... free enterprize... you forget about that?
I was born an American, I will die an American. I will make money like an American and i will never support people who would rather steal than pay for something. HBO wants to charge you $5 bux to watch a movie, fine pay it and watch or DONT it's not like you "HAVE" to watch the freaking show. IF YOU WANT TO YOU MUST PAY... SOB i would like a new viper, guess what i don't have one because they don't give them away free... You can't watch a movie because you can't afford it... YOU NEED A NEW JOB!
IF YOU do not make the money to support your TV CRAZIED HABBIT of watching lame duck shows anyway hey guess what DON'T WATCH it... because instead of watching some lame duck movie/show you should be working, spending time with your kids, spending time with your woman, maybe a few other things with your woman...
LOL i see how your logic is... If you buy one coca cola you should get the rest for free for the rest of your life. I got news for ya magot! NOT GONNA HAPPEN...
After all this is America EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD wishes they could be more like us. Know why? BECAUSE we have things like FREEDOM and FREE ENTERPRIZE! Oh yea baby. That means you have the freedom to start a business and MAKE MONEY.
I make plenty of money and if i want to watch a show SOMEONE SPENT MONTHS MAKING then i guess i'm just gonna have to pony up some doe to watch it now ain't I? Holly hell, what a concept! Make something, someone else wants it, you get paid for it.
I so tired of the stealing and lame techno freaks out there.
Hey i fully support being able to copy a DVD/CD game, etc.. I don't like to use my master copies to play with... Once you lose them, mess them up you don't have it anymore... a backup stops that from taking place. Thus i can keep something i have paid for. After all i'm paying $100 for a dvd pack i want it for life. 
Now you cry babies need to shut the hell up. HBO is a dang business. Hey magot guess why they are in business? TO MAKE MONEY, to pay people who work for them. To pay these high priced actors you love so much and will steal for to watch!
How about your business has a bunch of people ripping off your company and now you get fired because they can't pay you anymore! OH boy you would be all over it then wouldnt you...
i tell ya what... NO wonder they make fun of tech guys... 95% steal... No diff than the people in N. O. breaking into stores... Oh what is isn't? Because you don't do that? Oh no you cybersteal it from someone who already has. But somehow you think your somewhat diff from them. got news for ya punk you ain't... your as lame as someone breaking into a store and stealing stuff... SAME DANG THING!
If i ever caught you stealing my software which i can track people in mine... besides i deal with honest clients anyway i would sue you so bad it'd make your mamas pocket book hurt. You guys are nuts... STEALING IS STEALING... but since you don't know that, or won't back off from STEALING SO MUCH! Uncle Sam will help you out.
You kids don't know what it means to be an American. If someone makes some money you blame bush... It's not bush, it's YOU... because you don't know how to get off that blubbbbbber rear you call a seat warmer and make some doe for yourself. Go take some business classes.... do something other than steal all your life because you think you can't do better.
If you don't like it, or if you support stealing American Products got some advice for ya... LEAVE, LEAVE NOW, go hang out with the frenchies... and there 9.9 unemployment rate... HAVE FUN! but get outta here you American Hating sissy girl... I have toe nails that love the USA more than you; you socialist dirtbag...
How about that for a /rant?
Semper FI'ed American and you can get over it. If you even understand what i just said. | |
| | | | | | |
nartch
@172.20.x.x | Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using Basically, he said they're raping our Fair Use rights. You just went off on a tangent. America this, america that, yadda yadda big bar of soap. STFU or make sense. | |
| | | | | | | |
DeBlMa
@swbell.ne | Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using *laughing so hard* silly military people, thinking their guns and thoughtless repetition of the party line will bring about compliance. | |
| | | | | | | | | footballdude
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using said by DeBlMa :
*laughing so hard* silly military people, thinking their guns and thoughtless repetition of the party line will bring about compliance.
Hate to break this to ya but guns in general and the US military in particular do a pretty damn good job of bringing about compliance. | |
| | | | | | | | | | dpkform
join:2003-04-13
Toronto, ON
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using Yup - guns and the US military in particular have done a great job of bringing about the compliance of the insurgency in Iraq.
Yes, I am dripping with sarcasm.
No slight on the individuals in the service, but defintely on the foreign policy. | |
| | | | | | | | | | footballdude
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using said by dpkform :Yup - guns and the US military in particular have done a great job of bringing about the compliance of the insurgency in Iraq. Yes, I am dripping with sarcasm. Actually, you're dripping with ignorance. The people of Iraq are not fighting against the US military, they're fighting alongside them, against a bunch of Muslim extremists from Syria and Iran. The last report I saw said they were getting around one hundred people a month crossing the border into Iraq and attacking our troops. | |
| | | | | | |
Ne007
@sssnet.com | FREE TV?!!!!!!!!!!! FREE TV!!!!!!! LOL!
IF I PAY THE DRASTIC PRICES OF CABLE TV, THEN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT WITH THE TV SHOWS!
why be forced to watch commercials....FORCED.......when you alread pay for it? | |
| | | | | | | ReneM
join:2003-07-18
Cockeysville, MD | If you are really such a good programmer you know how to register yourself on BR. Otherwise you are just a low level troll and as such i would not in my wildest dreams pay for any of your products. | |
| | | | | | |
AnonGuy
| Hey i fully support being able to copy a DVD/CD game, etc.. I don't like to use my master copies to play with... Once you lose them, mess them up you don't have it anymore... a backup stops that from taking place. Thus i can keep something i have paid for. After all i'm paying $100 for a dvd pack i want it for life. Um, but according to the MPAA/RIAA/etc. doing that IS stealing (SAME DAMN THING). The business model is based around selling programming and making ancillary profit from merchandising, including DVDs. They sell you one DVD/set and its physical contents. They don't sell a lifetime license to the programming on the disc. Just read the warning that plays when you insert the disc.
LOL i see how your logic is... If you buy one coca cola you should get the rest for free for the rest of your life. I got news for ya magot! NOT GONNA HAPPEN...
"LOL i see how you logic is... If you buy one Sopranos Season set you should get [it] for free for the rest of your life." I'm sure HBO would express sorrow at your loss due to damage of your season set. But they would still charge you for a replacement rather than allow you to make a precautionary backup.
They even sort of made it against the law to even think about doing that when the DMCA made reverse engineering to circumvent copy protection illegal. (That's part of the reason Lightning's DVD Decrypter is no longer 'around', voluntarily.) Thought control...how American is that? How conducive to free enterprise?
"Sorry, Mr Ford, but the Horse and Buggy Protection Act (HBPA) has made it illegal to design any means of transportation that gets around the need to have both a horse and a buggy. Your Model-T just won't be legal here in the US of A." | |
| | | | | | |
miss beehive 1963
@edin.blu
| fair point i do agree with most of your argument here, however strongly need to inform you that the rest of the world ACTUALY DOES NOT WANT TO BE MORE LIKE AMERICANS!
but thats exactly the problem, thats what you all think, we are looking at you and thinking you are human beings gone wrong, do note that your country (that you ransacked) is only about 200 years old, with no real structure, or anything that resembles reserve, and you have highlighted this well in your post there.
maybe at one point following world war two, there was some kind of glitsy glamour in view of americans, but this has long since passed yet, you guys havent actually noticed it yet. your country is scary, you dont actualy have vomitariums yet, but i dare say that every eating disorder has stemmed from your country, the common view of you over here in europe, is basically obese and gun crazy, your crime rate is higher than anywhere else in the world, you are beyond superficial, and resemble mere characatures of human beings, and worst of all, its going to take more terrorism before you finally start asking why they are doing it. we all though "9/11" as you have coined it, was the wake up call, but no, you guys just released some albums and sold some mugs on behalf and asked "why in gods name? etc. ITS BECAUSE.....THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OUT THERE WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER GODS AND OTHER INTERESTS, THAT OCCAISIONALLY WANT TO BITE BACK AT YOU GUYS STAMPING ALL OVER THE REST OF THE WORLD, WITH YOUR GREED DRIVEN EVILS AND MODERN SLAVERY.
i can safely speak on behalf of the majority of britons, is that wwe ridicule and despise you, and to be honest a lot of us clapped with excitement on septtember the eleventh 2002, we were only dissapointed to realised it was just another coon that did it, we'd have been most impressed if some intelligent person in your own country did it.
however, we do feel that you are on the demie now, and are on the verge of eating yourselves.
your bodies and country are beyond saturation point.
i am sure some of you realise this.
but yeah, things should be paid for etc, forgive me for not using words like "dang" and "yee hah" etc. some things are best read without an accent attatched, then again you wouldnt know that. | |
| | | | | | |
BringIt
@cox.net | Seriously dude... American Freedom is a veil. But I wouldn't expect you to understand that, you are clearly in denial. Learn to spell loser. | |
| | | 
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by pulp39 :Secondly, how come the RIAA, etc... aren't shutting down News Servers for offering exactly what they are trying to shut down in P2P? I just don't get it... Because it isnt music, its just letters and numbers until a newsreader assembles it
--
You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
| | | allen2404
join:2002-02-24
Brooklyn, NY | Shhh, fool! Don't give away secrets like that! | |
| |
pulp39
Premium
join:2003-01-28
Ottawa, ON
edit:
October 7th, @12:12AM
| Well, if that is indeed the case (legally can't bring down newsgroups from pay providers) why da fawk aren't you Americans NOT using newsgroups more feverishly? You guys should be all over the newsgroups making EasyNews and Giganews etc... Fortune 500 companies. LOL Jesus H Christ, my friends, family and I have been using newsgroups for 10 years or more, in fact, I can't remember a time when not using newsgroups.
Well, maybe it's a Canadian thing, the great 2 solitudes and all dat jazz.... This is your fight brothers, since your nazi cousins aren't after us crazy Canucks. Teach everyone you know how to use newsgroups and keep on rockin' in da free world!
I just bought a clue. If America suddenly gets newsgroup savvy, I'm sure the nazi basturds will find a way to circumvent existing laws, huh? 
--
"Rogers needs to buy the CN Tower and call it Rogers Tower. This way, TED can shoot laser beams out his ass to our modems when we go over 100 Gigs." - MoeB -
LMFFAO!!! | |
| | | 
jmikeh
Premium
join:2001-07-15
Tulsa, OK | Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using Using Easynews web search would open the newbie eyes I would imagine... | |
| | | |
pulp39
Premium
join:2003-01-28
Ottawa, ON
edit:
October 7th, @03:07PM
| Re: Clever - fight the copyright infringers using I think I got a handle on it jmi. Even way back in the early days of binary newsgroups, Canadian ISP's included access with a connection. If I remember correctly, hincandenza mentioned U.S. ISP's don't normally include newsgroup access as part of the package. So, us "Canuckistanians" got reared on newsgroups right from the git go. Question remains, did the RIAA and their nazi cousins persuade american ISP's to NOT include newsgroups....? Hmmmmmmmm...
Anyways, whatever.... but you guys gotta stop this fawking bullchips, rise up, kick the basturds out, do whatever you have to do.
"Keep On Rockin' In Da Free World!"
--
"Rogers needs to buy the CN Tower and call it Rogers Tower. This way, TED can shoot laser beams out his ass to our modems when we go over 100 Gigs." - MoeB -
LMFFAO!!! | |
| | jsvoros
join:2005-11-02
Brenham, TX
| Ok, I understand copyright infringement is a big deal. I don't agree with people who do it and I won't do it myself. However these companies need to get a grip. exe...
a)I am allowed by LAW to make one backup copy for myself,
they are taking away this right.
b)Their are legitimate uses for peer to peer and that is
enough reason to keep it around, just like the vcr and
tape recorder, cdr and dvdr.
c)Copyright's were designed to encourage the creative
process and promote new ideas and technology. They were
Never intended to last forever (Disney - mickey mouse).
They were designed so that an artist and the company who
backed that artist could earn a living; then they expire
forcing the artist and company to come up with something
new and original. Doubt me? Read the original law!
d)If the music and mpa get these new laws passed guess
whats next...BOOKS. Yes, I said books. The publishing
Industry has been trying to do it for years. They want
To make it so you don't buy a book, you rent it. They
Want to make all books e-books that "self destruct" after
being read x amount of times. This is a classic example
of how copyright should not work. I buy a book, it's
mine to do with as I please. I can let a friend borrow it.
I can give it away. I can use it as resource material, or
quote it, or even copy small sections for 25 years. Then
it becomes public domain. All people own it, and the
rights thereto. Think if this didn't work this way. No
new books or plays would ever be written. And for that
mater a lot less movies would be made. What would have
happened to the movie industry if movies like "West-side
Story" couldn't have been made because good old Billy
Shakespeare's works were never public domain.
You laugh, that's what they are trying to do. And if you really want to get into it, most of the actors musician's and people involved in the process aren't making money off longer more strictly enforced copyright's. They don't get a percentage of the total sales (with the exception of song WRITERS, and a select few actors). The major corporations who produce these things get the money. When a song plays on the radio 90% of the time the guy singing it doesn't see a penny, the writer gets like 1/32 of a cent and the record company gets 2 and 31/32 cents. Think about it like this, when a Britney Spears song makes number one on the charts and gets played nationwide like 30 times a day she doesn't see a dime of that. If it's played on 1000 radio stations 30 times a day the record company makes $890.625 and the writer makes a whopping $9.375. All the companies really want to do is be able to make that money forever at the cost of innovation. | |
| 
insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Doesn't the client check the data? I thought if a client consistently sends bad data your client bans it. | |
| | 
BWolf6
Advanced User
join:2003-11-10
Marathon, ON | Re: Doesn't the client check the data? yea most BT clients check for bad data
and after so many times it bans the client who
is doing it. | |
| | | 
Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
Premium
join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
clubs: | Re: At least they're not suing if someone wants it bad enough they won't care and eventually will find a proper copy. | |
|
G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| I for one, see the downfall of HBO on the horizon **AA execs really are that stupid. If they are sending garbage data, then they can't say someone is infringing on the copyright of their show! There's no show being transmitted.
In any case, they can't poison private torrents. They use mediasentry and similar goons, but only the public torrents (which noone uses anymore) are ever attacked (i.e. piratebay, mininova, etc).
If HBO sees such a demand for it, why don't they just let people download it, and pay a small fee (i.e. 1-2.00 per episode). I mean, HBO is 10.00/month, NO COMMERCIALS, etc. What do they have to loose? This is the perfect opportunity for them to step up to the plate, but the idiots at the top can't see the forest for the trees, and instead of adapting to the future, they desperately hang onto the past. Just because you made money in the past, doesn't mean you get to make money today. Just because you got a 'law' passed, doesn't mean it's a just law, and that anyone will obey it. The more they tighten their grip, the more they loose control.
I for one, would celebrate the downfall of our fascists leaders and the corporate goons who hold their leashes. Bankrupt them all I say, and deport them to canada! Make them trade in the christian dior suits for some plaid socks and a baby seal club. So what if HBO goes broke, someone else will rise to take their place, someone with a clue. Remember, the **AA's shouted 'wolf' when the VCR was released, and now they make FAR more money from DVD's/VHS than they EVER made from the theaters.
--
Grand Poobah | |
| | 
sherman10594
join:2000-10-15
Thornwood, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: I for one, see the downfall of HBO on the hori While I don't disagree with your idea, HBO is in somewhat of a bind. I'm sure they would love to do what you're suggesting, but it would kill the rest of their business.
They sign deals with carriers (Cable, Satellite, etc) to be the exclusive providers of their content. If they offer the content to just anyone, then they are competing with themselves. HBO's own advertising says call your cable or satellite provider to subscribe (note that it's a subscription service).
The last thing you want to do is piss off, let's say, Comcast. Comcast now has to pay for the bandwidth over their own cable modem network to the same customers that used to pay them directly for HBO? I don't think so...
(As an aside, many of the cableco's now offer the additional HBO channels through digital cable. It's a great way for them to push the new technology on analog customers. The quicker they can cut analog service, the quicker they can offer more HDTV and faster internet service. DOCSIS 1.1 in a purely digital plant can offer individual customers FIOS-like upload speeds...)
I'll give HBO some credit for attempting a cheaper solution than a bunch of lawyers - but as many people have said, most of the current bittorrent clients auto-ban users that send bad data.
Long live USENET!
- Sherman | |
| | komal
join:2003-02-16
| Re: I for one, see the downfall of HBO on the horizon said by G_Poobah :**AA execs really are that stupid. If they are sending garbage data, then they can't say someone is infringing on the copyright of their show! There's no show being transmitted. If HBO sees such a demand for it, why don't they just let people download it, and pay a small fee (i.e. 1-2.00 per episode). I mean, HBO is 10.00/month, NO COMMERCIALS, etc. What do they have to loose? This is the perfect opportunity for them to step up to the plate, but the idiots at the top can't see the forest for the trees, and instead of adapting to the future, they desperately hang onto the past. Just because you made money in the past, doesn't mean you get to make money today. Just because you got a 'law' passed, doesn't mean it's a just law, and that anyone will obey it. The more they tighten their grip, the more they loose control. I for one, would celebrate the downfall of our fascists leaders and the corporate goons who hold their leashes. Bankrupt them all I say, and deport them to canada! Make them trade in the christian dior suits for some plaid socks and a baby seal club. So what if HBO goes broke, someone else will rise to take their place, someone with a clue. Remember, the **AA's shouted 'wolf' when the VCR was released, and now they make FAR more money from DVD's/VHS than they EVER made from the theaters. As with your earlier post, you demonstrate an incredible ability to show yourself to be ignorant. Why would the **AA execs be stupid to do this? They aren't trying to sue Mediasentry as that company isn't uploading copyrighted content, it's uploading junk. If you don't see that, then try going back to jr high. The people who are still uploading/downloading the actual show are still committing theft, and thus leave themselves open to litigation.
Somebody already posted some of the reasons that net distribution wouldn't work. Besides, people would still find ways to crack whatever DRM they use, and distribute it for free everywhere, and people like you would download it because free is cheaper than $$.
It's obvious you know nothing of their business models, networks can't afford to let you pay for the one or two tv shows you want to watch, that would only ensure that those shows make money and that on everything else, they lose money, including new shows.
Why don't you try to alleviate your stupidity instead of acting like a 12 yr old who just learned that meaning of a couple of new words.
And no, if HBO goes out of business, somebody won't take their place, people will say, 'look, HBO tried to make great shows but eventually they couldn't fight copyright theft' and that will be that. Maybe some companies will emerge and instead of being networks will sell only a few shows and sell them directly online, but that means most shows wouldn't exist and we would undoubtedly miss out on a lot of great ones. | |
| 
shrtckt1
Fried Rice
Premium
join:2005-05-18
Athens, GA | So it's okay for them to deface a network? Possibly they will catch a lawsuit for thwarting or defacing a network. It can't be any worse than the RIAA's ideas. | |
| | 
seant169
join:2003-07-21
Forney, TX
·Suddenlink
| Re: So it's okay for them to deface a network? It's not legal... I cant wait for Microsoft, HBO, Paramount, or a ISP to get caught doing these evil practices. I am sure they are the reason for so many problems with our pc's including spyware. viruses. and spam and now poisioning the netowks with bad files. | |
| 
ViniTheHat
Hat Trickery
Premium
join:2002-09-29
Brooklyn, NY | DIY it'll eventually come out on DVD where you can rent it from netflix and rip it yourself...
--
Play Civ2 with me, please! | |
| |
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Re: DIY does netflix rent season paks? those 6-7 dvd sets?. | |
| | | | | | | 
imtim83
Horay for gas prices going upAdaptordie
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
| Re: DIY said by Omega :said by dvd536 :does netflix rent season paks? those 6-7 dvd sets?. Yes. I now have X-files season 1-9, plus bonus discs. X-files rock!
So your really going to watch all the x-file seasons all over again ?
I am doing the same thing but can't do it all in one sitting 
I wish I could. I have a few favorite episodes.
I like the ones with the shapeshifter alien in it! Those are so cool! Then the aliens with the green blood or whatever it is that kills people if they have a open wound! Then the aliens with the black oil! I love any of those!
Its the coolest idea ever!
Will you watch The X-files movie between the two seasons at where you should watch it? I love that movie too! The aliens with the black oil in their eyes! WooHoo!
Coolest idea ever as well!
Fox Mulder is my favorite character! Hes cool!
--
Thank God i am not getting married, having kids, going on a date, etc! Oh Thank God!»Re: newzbin.com file datebase now 50 days | |
| 
Bitey
Premium
join:2002-06-14 | I though of this back in the Napster days But I'm not a big stupid dinosaur like
the people who run the entertainment industry. | |
| | 
Jehu
dejapoo
Premium
join:2002-09-13
MA
·Comcast
| Re: I though of this back in the Napster days Different for music and movies/shows.. the data is much larger for video, so wasting huge chunks of time downloading the wrong video is much more aggravating than having to cycle through a few mp3s
--
A new drink for the old drunk | |
| 
jazzy_
join:2004-01-27
Charleston, SC
| nothing new Modern BitTorrent clients have had features to block this kind of attack for quite awhile now. The problem for most is they do not use these newer clients. Azureus has these features.
Though I must admit this could severely diminish the performance of a torrent it will not stop the distribution. | |
| |
See 6 replies to this post | |
Must_Use_Name
@comcast.net | good good for HBO. They should defend their property. Hopefully they'll figure how to do it.
If anyone wants to see Rome it's available on demand. There's really no excuse to download the shows for free other than wanting something for nothing | |
| | markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: good Mmm you got it backwards. Bad for HBO, if they want to make money they could SELL the shows online instead of trying to mess them up. Does not matter, there is lots of Rome episodes anyways they can poison a few if they want..
Cable providers need to wake up and smell the real world. The reason most people download shows online is because its so easy, I bet you if they provided option to download the shows you want for a small fee (im talking per show not the whole network) they would make millions.
Lets see Must_Use_Name..would you pay whatever price HBO is a month just to watch ONE thing you like? Heck no! No one would because you know your getting jipped.
Its simple networks, offer shows online for a one time download fee, 50 cents or so, a commerical free episode, to download online, your still making more without commercials because its available to everyone regardless if they have cable or not with you. People would pay that price instead of downloading it free off BT simply because its the real deal, simple as that.
I would of gladly payed money for all the episodes of Lost, ER, House, etc if they offered it online. But you don't offer the service. | |
| | 
ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | "If anyone wants to see Rome it's available on demand."
And what about those of us who have HBO but don't have On Demand? *kicks Comcast* | |
| Deathsadvoca
join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | too bad Too bad that most bittorrent clients check for bad data, and when they recieve bad data the client is banned. thanks for wasting 256KB-512KB of data. | |
| Tristan9669
join:2004-08-07
Beverly Hills, CA | Use Private Trackers If you use pravate trackers, especially closed signup trackers, you'll never run into these kind of problems. | |
|
challengetohighprice
| SmackDown I lay the blame at skyrocketing subscription prices, the HBO property is anywher $10-20 depending on subscription package level.
Personally, I haven't the propensity to 'download' anything HB0 but iffin I did, rest assured, the file won't be corrupted by creeps, sheeps or whatever they plan to send in the stream. | |
|
VanityGlass
@64.241.x.x | Limewire has many, many bogus ROMEs ALmost every version is wrong. But there are some real ones, just not all the episodes yet. You just gotten know how. | |
|
seant169
join:2003-07-21
Forney, TX
·Suddenlink
| Way Too Long Posts! I think a post should not be a book length reply to another posters issues. This should be regulated. Your answer to a problem or question should not be much longer than a few lines.
What do yall think about this
Exmaple of lengthy post is in the HBO discoussion about downloading their movies off torrent sites. | |
|
Kitane
@shawcable.net
| Bah, this is minor. I was duped a couple of times when they first started doing this, but you kind of get a second sense for spotting the fakes. Using a decent site and client help as well.
When it comes down to it, they can play all the games that they want, and waste as much money as they want as well. If I want to get the shows, I'll get them.
It's really funny how these suits are so stupid that they'll spend way more money trying to stop the file sharing than the file sharing is costing them. C'mon. They think that they're actually losing potential customers because people can dl 1 or 2 of their shows? It just shows the backwoods, hillbilly geek mentality that's become pervasive in the states. | |
| Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | This is AWESOME All this means is that it forces the developers to improve BT, making this sort of attack impossible. The **AAs will keep trying, and keep spending their money and time, and I will still get whatever it is I want... | |
| | jc100
join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Good for them Might not make me Mr. Popular but good for HBO.. Peer to Peer and bittorent are a plague. If it were up to me theyd be shut down because not only do they spread piracy to the masses, it makes stuff that was meant to stay between select people or friends widely known. Dont get me wrong, copying a CD and giving it to a friend isnt |
|
|
|
HBO "Poisoning" Show Torrents?
Clever - fight the copyright infringers using P2P
·
·
