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Cheyenne, WY | These Clowns are going to do better then this. Jamming public service frequenies. If This Airport uses a trunked radio system like so many other cities this line is a crock of crap. They want to have what amounts to a tax of every one who uses a computer in their terminal.
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| Re: These Clowns are going to do better then this. And what about people who run their own ad-hoc networks in the airport? These identical radio waves do not cause any problems? I suppose only when the airlines do it does it cause any problems....
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Tucson, AZ | That's just purely FUD in action.
I seriously hope somebody sets this straight. | |
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kudos:4 |  Airlines will win at FCC
Massport is a sinkhole of Democratic patronage.
The airline appeal to FCC will be successful.
End of problem.
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kudos:3 | Re: Airlines will win at FCC said by ThrowDemsOut:The FCC is Republican controlled. Massport is a sinkhole of Democratic patronage. The airline appeal to FCC will be successful. End of problem. The politics are too amusing, and I'd suspect you're right. I think the FCC must take a good look at who needs the benefit most here. Airlines are sorely lacking in the profit department. If they're providing free WiFi for frequent fliers as an incentive to become one, doesn't it make sense to allow the airlines that business tool?
That...and the interference claims are bullshit. It's doubtful Logan will get too far on a lie.
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Lowell, MA | When they do something you dont like, they MUST be democrats! Right?
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kudos:3 | Re: Airlines will win at FCC said by EdibleTarget:When they do something you dont like, they MUST be democrats! Right? I would believe a republican would support the apparent monopoly, especially one named "capitalist." It's an inherently liberal business model to add regulatory measures. Since Logan Airport wants to institute measures to prevent free WiFi in favor of their own paid service, he therefore makes a safe assumption that the business is run as such (and he's probably correct).
This is basic Microeconomics.
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Rockaway, NJ | Remove this story immediately! We wouldn't want the terrorists to setup WIFI and bring down all police and emergency communications! | |
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3 edits | Re: Remove this story immediately! If The City of Boston was smart instead of charging people using their Wifi system why not sell advertising to pay for it. If I was in Boston I would like to tap into a data base to find good eateries, hotels, etc. They could go into an agreement with the Airlines. There are all kinds of things they could do. But they don't call Massachusetts "Taxachusetts" for nothing.
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Waltham, MA | Re: Remove this story immediately! Some people love to cling to old stories. On a marginal basis, MA is 39th out of 50 states. Even a a real comparison of overall taxes paid, MA is only 18th.
The biggest problem for MA is that only 75 cents of each dollar paid to the feds by its citizens are returned back to it. MA heavily subsidises all the bozo "red" states. | |
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| | | | | Re: Remove this story immediately! I thought taxing the hard working people to subsidise people *cough cough* in need is the great idea of left socialists? No? | |
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Cheyenne, WY | said by nozzer:Some people love to cling to old stories. On a marginal basis, MA is 39th out of 50 states. Even a a real comparison of overall taxes paid, MA is only 18th. The biggest problem for MA is that only 75 cents of each dollar paid to the feds by its citizens are returned back to it. MA heavily subsidises all the bozo "red" states. Oh ya and what is the "Big Dig" costing in Boston.
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1 edit | Re: Remove this story immediately! The big dig cost about 15bn dollars OVER THE LAST 15 years.
MA taxpayers give the feds approx 60 bn A YR.
The Big Dig is chump change.
Oh, and per capita, Wyoming absorbs about 10 times as much of the federal highway budget. Hows all those subsidies working out for ya? | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Remove this story immediately! said by nozzer:The big dig cost about 15bn dollars OVER THE LAST 15 years. MA taxpayers give the feds approx 60 bn A YR. The Big Dig is chump change. Oh, and per capita, Wyoming absorbs about 10 times as much of the federal highway budget. How's all those subsidies working out for ya? Ah the traditional eastern gripe about Federal taxes. Wyoming is very sparsely populated and we are also much larger then Massachusetts. The Fed's mandate "The Defense Interstate highway System" will be built to their specifications. The State of Wyoming is charged with the construction and matinance of these roads. Wyoming is paid to do this. More miles of highways equals more money.
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Waltham, MA | Re: Remove this story immediately! tell me again why i should subsidise your decision to live in the middle nowheresville? A large chunk of those dollars pay for stuff other than interstates. | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Remove this story immediately! said by nozzer:tell me again why i should subsidise your decision to live in the middle nowheresville? A large chunk of those dollars pay for stuff other than interstates. because we love to hear you Boston assholes bitch and moan, because that is one of the few things you New England "Easterners", a term of great derision in these parts, can do that isn't taxed. As for complaining about our small population there is only one thing to say, you can kiss a green grass eating cow's ass. We like our wide open spaces, Yellowstone Park, Grand Tetons, Devils Tower, and miles and miles of land and Sky.
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Waltham, MA | Re: Remove this story immediately! Indeed - the wide open spaces are nice to visit (I actually like Wyoming as a place and have been 5 times now), but I sure as hell wouldn't live there!
I like civilization, and my very well paid job. I can go see yellowstone and the tetons anytime I want.
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Of the 30% that are pay almost all try and charge a flat rate of around $6.95 to $12.95 for a 24 hour period. When I'm waiting 2 hours for a flight do I really want to pay $6.95 for 2 hours???
This is despite the fact that the company I work for would re-imberse me for the expense however I refuse to give them any money. If they would institute/allow a "Per hour" charge and let me deduct it straight out of my Paypal account they might get some money but for this flat rate stuff, no dice.
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Nusquam, USA | Re: $7.95 a day is highway robbery Can't we just use our laptops offline for a few hours? | |
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kudos:1 | That'd be nice, but a)not *that* many people have PayPal accounts (there are a lot, but not enough to make it worthwhile), and b)charging that low a rate would be unprofitable for any wireless provider. Think: $12/day would be about $.50 an hour. Once you get that eaten up with PayPal/merchant account fees, you're talking a low return even before you factor in the overhead.
Last time I was in LAX though they did have kiosks where you could pay a couple of dollars for a 10-minute block, cash or charge. It was nice for checking hotel directions and e-mail before I caught my connection. Wireless I doubt they could make that cheap. | |
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Hollywood, FL | Too funny... And what frequency is the airport planning to use which would not interfere that the airlines wouldn't??
Just way too funny for words. Pure FUD. Considering the number of airports who either A) offer wi-fi for free or B) have pay services....their case will fail to show any interference threat.
There is no issue to see here, move along.
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Katy, TX | Makes you think? I know this is not about this case, but I was just wondering. If you are offering pay for wireless in your business can you sue anyone broadcasting a free internet ap onto your property, which in turn is losing you money?? | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Makes you think? said by r81984:I know this is not about this case, but I was just wondering. If you are offering pay for wireless in your business can you sue anyone broadcasting a free internet ap onto your property, which in turn is losing you money?? sure.. you COULD.. if you paid big bux to license a frequency band from the FCC. Then only somebody with a license (thats you) could legally operate in that band. With all forms of WiFi, this is not the case, since Wifi are located in non-licensed "public" frequencies. The 2.4ghz band is a congested place, full of 2.4ghz cordless phones, bluetooth, and microwave ovens.
Also, the concept that somebody is "broadcasting" free internet into your airspace (property), isn't quite as you see it. They are not "broadcasting" internet into your airspace. Yes, there is a signal being transmitted into your airspace, but unless your radio (wireless network card) transmits back into the above property(Free internet ap), there will be no internet connection/use. It's a two-way street.
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Freehold, NJ | Block it? So why doesn't the airport just install that special wire-mesh they have that blocks whatever radio signals you want to, on their side of the walls in the airport (such as the dividing walls between the airline's areas and the rest of the airport) and it would keep everything separate, no?
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