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DoD Buying Sprint's iDEN Network
Rumored deal could be huge for cable industry
(old news - 01:10PM Thursday Oct 27 2005)
tags: competition · business · wireless
Tipped by Karl Bode See Profile
User Comcast_Loke sends in this PCS Intel Blog story that indicates the Department of Defense will be buying Sprint's iDEN network as "the first phase of a national overhaul of its security framework in regards to communication." The gist is that the government will move much of its wireless communications onto one encrypted wireless network, and Sprint/Nextel customers will be issued dual-network CDMA/iDEN handsets, so that as iDEN becomes restricted, CDMA will take its place.

The report also claims that in exchange, Sprint will get plenty of spectrum in the 700 & 800Mhz bands for mobile Wimax broadband service. Keep in mind that if true, most of this wouldn't happen until around 2010, which roughly gels with Wimax analyst timeline predictions. The report claims the deal won't even be announced until 2007 or 2008.

This move makes this week's news of a Sprint co-branding wireless deal with Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Cox slightly more interesting. The deal would give Sprint priority access to Wimax spectrum, letting those three cable giants offer re-branded Wimax to better compete with baby Bell Wimax offerings.

This whole scenario assumes a lot; at the forefront that mobile Wimax is a solid business model. If Wimax tanks however, the report seems to indicate that Sprint's deal with Uncle Sam allows them to instead grab ample 2.5 GHz spectrum, and deploy the most popular technology at the time (like WiBro).

Either way, the cable industry would be well positioned for wireless broadband competition.

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mishaq
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Interesting...

Too bad the government is going to use it to KEEP TRACK OF US 24/7 AND CONTROL OUR MINDS
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stevephl

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Re: Interesting...

Ah but you need not worry you first have to have a "mind" before it can be controlled

Steve somewhere in Colorado
(Government Department of Citizens Control)
mishaq
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Re: Interesting...

Damn Midwestern states with your emptiness and missile silos and SECRET GOVERNMENT BUNKERS. This iDEN purchase is just the first step, you just WAIT
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stevephl

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Re: Interesting...

I think you need to refer to a map of the U.S. Colorado is a Western State, not a Midwestern State. Need a Geography lesson?

Missile silo's are what allows us to sleep peacefully at night

No secret Government bunkers here, they are all visible from google earth!

Steve in Colorado
(God's Country)

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JoTH

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Re: Interesting...

Perhaps you aren't aware of the secret bunkers that are around Colorado, because it would be based on need to know.

There are a several spots North of Denver that are suspect...

Shriver AFB and NORAD (the entrance)do show on Google Earth but they are far from secret anything.
Not to mention dated maps and numerous other regulations that they have to follow.

gmp

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One thing google maps blur out what the government tells them to

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And the guy breaking the story has this to say:
»pcsintel.com/modules.php?name=Ne···sid=1100
I'm sure many of you will ask my personal thoughts on this. Personally, I think it is the most amazing cooperation between corporate, technological, and political facets of society to-date. It will secure the country, and deliver something that no other technological society has ever offered; wireless broadband internet for everyone. It will ensure that every commander can communicate to every single person he or she is in command of, either through the chain of command or directly at any time. It will ensure that the United States will be the leader in wireless communication and national communications security for the next 25 years.

We are reporting all of this today, which we have known and been briefed on for an extremely long time, because we have been notified that Sprint's competition, namely WiMax ISP newcomers that you probably have never heard of before, have learned this information above within the past week.

In short, they are flying to Washington D.C. to fight back in Congress and with the FCC. Now aware to these plans, they see that all their technology investments will go to waste if the FCC choses to pull their 700 MHz licenses key to WiMax "in the public interest". While we love a good behind-the-scenes fight, we have been informed this news will become public domain later this week.

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said by mishaq See Profile :

Too bad the government is going to use it to KEEP TRACK OF US 24/7 AND CONTROL OUR MINDS
Talk about conspiracy theorist. Do you even know what you're talking about, or are you just blabbering?
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mitchhoward

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Re: Interesting...

Oh, I'm sure he's being serious and probably has some inside information so that he knows that the government is literally going to try to control our minds. Yep, must be.

calvoiper

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Re: Interesting...

Doesn't he know about putting tinfoil in his baseball cap?
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stevephl

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Re: Interesting...

I'm surprised that he/she isn't aware that the Government already controls the Citizenry via chemical dispersion from aircraft. Ever seen a contrail?

Steve somewhere in Colorado
(Department of Mind Control and citizen hallucinations)
jimhass

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Noah Vail
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So they'll be using Nextel's/Sprint's cell system and towers for broadcasting.

Well, aren't we just right up and cozy with the DoD all of a sudden.

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Re: And they'll be broadcasting from.....?

said by Noah Vail See Profile :

So they'll be using Nextel's/Sprint's cell system and towers for broadcasting.
It's true!!

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said by mishaq See Profile :

Too bad the government is going to use it to KEEP TRACK OF US 24/7 AND CONTROL OUR MINDS
someone better add another layer to that tin foil hat....;)

dadkins
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Re: Interesting...

Perhaps some 20gauge stainless...

coastjam
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Re: Interesting...

Better yet they make a 1717 high heat aerospace. He should give it a try. A B/U just in case.:)

Medic63

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said by mishaq See Profile :

Too bad the government is going to use it to KEEP TRACK OF US 24/7 AND CONTROL OUR MINDS
Did your mother drop you on your head a lot?

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Worse than that, when former Nextel customers get bumped to the 2.5GHz band, dropped calls and no service, or spotty service will become the norm. I sure will miss the 850 band with it's relatively long-range propogation and reliable coverage. Nextel was the only provider in recent years using this band, and the only provider with spotless coverage in my rural area. Having a cell phone was nice. Guess I better get used to things they way they were pre-cellular days...
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Re: Interesting...

Uhh... Verizon? Alltel? US Cellular? All operate on the 800MHz band in my area. Nextel, Sprint, Cingular, T-Mobile all have no service here.

Breeze05

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packetscan
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Why

Why did i not see any bid requests for this proposed purchase?

Something Smells afoul.
RichNice

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Re: Why

Sprint/Nextel must be secretly owned by Haliburton.

davoice

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Re: Why

Motorola. But close enough. (Didn't anyone ever wonder why Nextel only had Motorola handsets? Duh! Motorola bankrolled Nextel's network.)

}Davoice

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They announced the sale of the 800Mhz band a long time ago in exchange they'll get 1900Mhz frequencies, »www.howardforums.com/showthread.···d=709947. I think the WiMax thing is far fetched though. There is a thread about this over at the Howard Forums, »www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=756907.

packetscan
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Re: Why

I'm looking for a formal announcement by the DOD.
Like a Request for Bid.

I don't care that People on another forum are talking about it.

imrf
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Re: Why

You won't see a formal bid for it for quite a while, since the network isn't even close to being sold. Instead of making ignorant comments like you did, read the articles and forums and you would have seen that.

packetscan
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Re: Why

ignorance.

Sadly you don't know how things are purchased by the government. everything is to the lowest bidder*cough*.

Point being how can you say it's being sold when a bid has not bee requested.

You my acquaintance are the ignorant one.

imrf
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Re: Why

Then its obvious that you have no idea how the government purchases things.

The network has to be up for sale in order for them to bid on it.

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BillRoland
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Yeah right

I'll believe it when I see it. This sounds like a fabrication.
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n2jtx

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Interference

The biggest problem with this scenario is that it does not address the existing issue of RF interference on 900MHz. Nextel had been in negotiations with the government for some time to do a frequency swap in order to get off 900MHz and stop interfering with public safety radio. Of course with the opening of the upper UHF channels due to DTV conversion, I suppose the guvment could make the argument that public safety radio should move down there and they will keep 900MHz.
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ptt4all

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Re: Interference

The problem is NOT at 900 MHz - yet...the interference IS at 800 MHz and severely impacts public safety radio systems as well as private SMR networks.
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Hmmm....

So, Sprint/Nextel customers are going to be loosing their iDEN equipment which offered encrypted communications by default for a less secure CDMA technology... I wonder, is Sprint/Nextel going to offer some sort of encryption on its new network for these people or is the government now going to be the only group with access to encrypted wireless communications ?
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vv97

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Online Classes

I'm attending school at a major California college. Name left out for a reason. Every year more and more classes are being done online. Don't get me wrong, but I do like online classes. But taking math, and english classes should be in class and not online. Are colleges getting greedy?
stevephl

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Re: Online Classes

I know that UC Irvine, LA and San Diego all switched over to an on-line model due to the huge influx of illegal aliens from down south. Going to an on-line virtual campus has led to a decrease in crime, violence, rapes, drugs and murders due to the presence of illegal aliens. As well those few American students left are able to learn in English for once.

Steve living free in Colorado

greaaat



Eat your wheaties people,

Great, so, now Verizon sets to make a killing because cdma won't live up to iden's ultra-low latency on 800mhz frequency at high power..

Just goes to show,
I always hated sprint anyway, as a company... now the govt' strips the last bastion of nextel for a sweet deal while selling out its customers. Go verizon!

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Re: Eat your wheaties people,

said by greaaat :

Great, so, now Verizon sets to make a killing because cdma won't live up to iden's ultra-low latency on 800mhz frequency at high power..

Just goes to show,
I always hated sprint anyway, as a company... now the govt' strips the last bastion of nextel for a sweet deal while selling out its customers. Go verizon!
Yeah the whole thing is gonna suck! Period..Sprints service here where I live on land line it almost as bad as a string and 2 tin cans and thier CDMA cellular totally flat outright sux....You gotta climb halfway up their one tower in the county to get 1/2 scale signal.

I dont know what they are using for equipment but they need to go ahead and buy the PA to go with the exciter they are using as a cellular system here.

Nextel's coverage is a little spotty here but atleast you can get a signal to call out..Thats way more than Sprint is or evidently ever will do.

I would say Verizon here but there again they do not have facilities here but down the road a bit they have great service.

Leave it to the guberment to screw up a good thing..least this time they know it's good

Small Town WISP



Another Fed move to destroy independent WISPs

Scary. Sprint gets prime NLOS spectrum, which WISPs cannot get for love or money, without having to go through a pesky bidding process or share the spectrum. Meanwhile, wireless broadband providers who are out there in the trenches TODAY trying to make use of overcrowded Part 15 spectrum will be left to hang with nothing. Seems to follow the usual government pattern these days: Support rapacious large corporations, from whom they expect (and often get) large campaign contributions, at the expense of small businesses.

enstate

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all tomorrow's parties

any {business} interest of someone else's is never in your interest, except as a matter of accident. still, this may be along the path to a truly luxury-based society....and, as with religion, ya all'll have to change to accomodate - or die out.

Virginia Rebel

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they ain't that smart...


Fella's..."the government" ain't that smart...
(Lord, I wish they were...)
Follow the money and the truth gets revealed....ALWAAYS
aaayoureweb

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Bullhead City, AZ

Location Based Services

Do you think Location Based Services will play a big role in this?
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xboxerxbox

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Re: Location Based Services

That guy is just fantasizing about an all-in-one device with the iPod as the base.

NextelFan

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Stupid Government

Why buy the iDEN network? The technology was using the dated technology with low security and the government would end up buying the network plus almost a major rehaul of the system to encrypt it for their use. Why not just build a new network> Coverage would not serve great portions of the country. Where's the $ coming from when it is all going overseas to people who are giving us nothing in return? Why don't they spend it on our care as we are the people that make up this nation? Thanks for your leadership, President Bush, and the DOD for creating a very stupid costly deal. In what aspect is it going to help improve our country? I rest my case!
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