Inside Fios TV Verizon's new television machine Multichannel News offers up technical specifics behind Verizon Fios TV: "Verizon has constructed two 'super headends' — one in Tampa, Fla., and a second in Bloomington, Ill. The headends pull video signals off satellites and relay signals via a fiber infrastructure to the Carrollton [TX]VHO and hubs in five other markets, which officials declined to name. Each hub can support an entire DMA. The super headends in Tampa and Bloomington can each serve the entire country"
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The FiOS TV platform is a hybrid of a traditional cable broadcast architecture coupled with an advanced Internet-protocol TV system. Verizon uses traditional cable quadrature amplitude modulation technology to deliver analog, digital and HDTV channels, and relies on IPTV technology to deliver video-on-demand programming.
Verizon officials say that using a traditional cable architecture allowed them to come to market faster with a video product than they could have if they pursued a dedicated IPTV platform.
“We looked deeply at that [IPTV] option. We didn’t feel it was ready. It hadn’t proven to be scalable,” O’Connell says. “There was still a substantial efficiency in using broadcast for linear [programming], and since we had the ability to use the [IPTV] data stream for the interactive piece, we felt in a way we were sitting in the best of both worlds.” Verizon probably made a pretty good decision here. IPTV is still having a lot of teething problems, while the traditional cable solution is well proven. But working in the IPTV capability slowly thru the VOD application allows Verizon to get their feet wet while that technology matures. Later, as IPTV becomes more mature, they can use that to rollout video to their mobile market.
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"Verizon expects to see a return on their investment sometime before the next millennium..." 
It all sounds very technologically dreamy. Id hate to see the entire country loose FIOS tv though over some minuet snafu.
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Verizon hybrid TV system interesting said by CableTool: It all sounds very technologically dreamy. Id hate to see the entire country loose FIOS tv though over some minuet snafu. What the hell is a "minuet snafu"? A dance step error?
Since Comcast has consolidated headends in most markets entire regions lose Comcast cable due to operational and managerial incompetence every week. Not to mention the regular channel outages and generally awful performance of it's video delivery. You nit-picking Verizon's network architecture is quite laughable. A "minuet snafu" takes Comcast out every day.
So, Mr. Tool, when is Comcast going to offer something as robust as Fios? When is your video on demand going to work more than half the time? How about having more than a handful of watchable programs on it? Hmmmm? | |
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1 edit | Re: Verizon hybrid TV system interesting Oops, had me there. | |
| | | | | | Think what ever you want, just wait until you see the picture. This service will make a $20 tv look great. This is just the start. Next year the new dvrs and boxes will be introduced allowing content to be shared between boxes and your pc hard drive as well as hd vod. | |
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Paramus, NJ | said by CableTool:It all sounds very technologically dreamy. That's what I thought about Fios 2yrs ago. At that time, I thought it will cost $5000(made this # up) to run fiber to my house. I expected to use cable for the rest of my life.
Well, the dream is now a reality. | |
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| | | I LIVE in Carrollton, TX. And yet we have no FiOS deployed in our own city.
That doesn't stop them from sending me a giant FiOS ad in the mail every week, though.....just taunting me.
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| | | | | Re: Verizon hybrid TV system interesting FIOS *IS* available in Carrollton (most parts of it, anyway). I've had it since 6/1/05 and this morning I called to order FIOS TV -- she said it will be coming online in Carrollton "momentarily" -- like later today -- and that we should be able to order it in a day or two! | |
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| | | This is insane.... IP is the only TRULY scalable TV solution. Everyone knows RF's limitations. What the hell is the substantial efficiency of RF video? The reason Verizon didn't deploy IPTV is because the are using a BPON platform not capable of producing enough IP bandwidth for TV. They are doing a 1550nm RF video overlay on the fiber. They are actively pursuing deploying GPON and will certainly deploy IP video on its heels...
Standing outside the industry, this article seems reasonable... anyone on the inside knows it is just PR spin...quite ridiculous... Verizon always does the "wait and see" when it comes to deploying a technology... therefore they are ALWAYS behind the curve... | |
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without them, it will be a quite a lonely pipe and expense for limited markets.. | |
| | | Sorry, Verizon Sorry, would have loved your service. But, since your STB relies on Microsoft technologies, guess I'll go somewhere else.
I don't want to support Microsoft in this (or any) arena at all. | |
| | | | Re: Sorry, Verizon Do you eat at all? There are a lot of Microsoft products used in food process industry, you know. | |
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Do you eat at all? There are a lot of Microsoft products used in food process industry, you know.
Yes, but MS is not trying to control and tie-in the FP industry. They are trying to lock-in the entertainment industry into Windows Media formats. That I will not support. | |
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kudos:1 | Looks like Verizon is on their way.. Looks like Verizon is really stepping up to the plate in the realm of providing this new service. I can only imagine the outlay of cash to build those head ends. And I'd venture a guess that they don't have enough subscribers to pay the electric bill for the AC in those joints yet, let alone running and staffing it. That doesn't even include running the fiber on the street, the costs of installation, the ONT's, etc.
There in lies the rub. I'm still amazed Verizon has decided to do this. It's a tremendous risk for several reasons.
First: If they don't get enough subs to pay for all of this, the executives are TOAST. They've got to know it. It takes some guts to lay it on the chopping block like that.
Second: Even if they pull in subscribers along what would be a very optimistic timetable, it's going to hit their bottom line, and the stock price. In today's market, investors don't invest in companies, so much as they do in mutual funds. The only thing mutual fund managers care about is stock price. Do the people managing the funds have the tech savvy to look at what Verizon is doing and recognize the potential?
Third: If Verizon delivers in terms of customer service, reliability, and quality, they will have scored the trifecta. Data, voice, and video. If, (and it's still a big IF) they can pull it off, they will eat the cable co's lunch.
Now, if they can just keep the stock holders with the pitchforks and torches at bay long enough to get this behemoth of a project of the ground, they stand to make them a LOT of money.
In conclusion, all I can do is sit here, pound my hands and fists on the floor and go BUT I WANNNIT NOW!!!!! | |
| | | | Re: Looks like Verizon is on their way.. said by N3OGH:In conclusion, all I can do is sit here, pound my hands and fists on the floor and go BUT I WANNNIT NOW!!!!! That's what all us, in areas not served by Verizon, are thinking. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Looks like Verizon is on their way.. To quote a famous man "I feel your pain".
I often read the Verizon fiber optics forum, and see a lot of folks (myself included) who piss and moan about the months they will have to wait to get Fios. Right now, the fiber run is about 100 ft from my house, just waiting for the final deployment.
Bottom line? I KNOW it's coming my way soon. Soon meaning in the next 6 months or so. Some folks are outside the service area, or on the fringes, and will not see this service within the next 10 years.
Yes, I am waiting, but only a couple months or so. I can't wait to have that big, fat fiber pipe running into my house.
And with Comcast raising their rates, AGAIN, it will be nice to see some competition..... | |
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Claymont, DE |  Re: Looks like Verizon is on their way..
said by N3OGH:To quote a famous man "I feel your pain". Yes, I am waiting, but only a couple months or so. I can't wait to have that big, fat fiber pipe running into my house. Sounds a bit sexual there Wacoyle...what else can't u wait for ? I'm just glad you used the word 'house' to end that sentence; could have been worse; you could have used 'pipe'.
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| Vz's plan for the future... Well, I don't know about you, but the cable-tv plan verizon's got is going to have to evolve/scale much faster into interactive tv service platform pretty quick. The problem is they are promising the store to the shareholders, customers, vendors, and regulators (temporarily include in this local municipalities), states... and that pie only goes so far.. that hasn't been accomplished since you first got copper phone service in the first place.. but back then it was ONE HUGE company wan't it?
There is a big rush to see what happens with verizon, will they be able to get the kind of scale, before people say, to heck with POTS altogether.. that day is coming.. sooner than those promises.
Now what all good motivators say: focus, implement, compete.
The one thing that has cablecos chuckling at is the fact that customers are not necesarily loyal to verizon anymore as cablecos learned the hard-way with satellite. 2006 is a make or break year for them, financially, and competitively. | |
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Houston, TX | OEN Fision If you live in Houston, check out »www.getfision.com. They are scheduled to go live in December. IPTV, Phone, 10-100 Mbps internet connection. Crossing my fingers that I will be in one of the early rollout areas. | |
| | | | Re: OEN Fision WOW This is sweet I will dump TWC Like that for this. I hope it comes to my part of town as well here in Pealrnad over by 288 | |
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1 edit | Will Verizon be able to do IPTV right? I am interested to see how Verizon's IPTV works out.
I Currently have IPTV though Surewest's FTTH (fios) triple-play solution but the quality is questionable at times. For low motion scenes the quality is pretty much perfect. For high motion (like sporting events) it is horrible with lots of video artifacts (mostly ringing along the edges but some blocking as well). Surewest's target date was November 2005 to roll out HDTV over IPTV (which they have been testing for awhile now) which means they should release it any day now. Citing the quality problems with the current SDTV I am unsure if they can get the crystal-clear HDTV right but I will give it a shot when it is available.
For this new Verizon IPTV solution I would recommend to hold off until you see that there is positive feedback from people that have a large or HDTV. If you have a normal SDTV then it most likely won't pick up any quality imperfections so you don't have much to worry about. Big-Screen TVs and HDTVs will usually pick up every detail and imperfection so problems become more noticeable especially if you watch a lot of mpeg4 (xvid/divx) or lower bitrate mpeg2 (not full-quality 8Mbps DVD-9 Mpeg2) and are more sensitive to video artifacts because IPTV is usually done with MPEG2 streams.
Edit: It looks like Surewest is having a couple problems they need to work out before they release HDTV over IPTV so its being pushed to sometime in 2006.
Seems like Verizon and some others will be using Microsoft's MSTV :P Will you see DRM and random BSOD errors on your TV soon? Am I the only person it scares that by getting Fios TV microsoft will have control over your tv service? I am glad that Surewest doesn't use Microsoft.
Below are some interesting links on IPTV services including FIOS TV.
»www.xchangemag.com/articles/5c1f···771&req=
»www.xchangemag.com/tdhotnews/5bh8141541.html
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