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700Mhz Auction Approaches $10 Billion
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by Karl Bode Wednesday 30-Jan-2008 tags: competition · fcc · business · wireless · bandwidth
RCR Wireless News reports that the FCC could hit their goal of $10 billion in 700Mhz auction bids by sometime today. Bidding for the highly desirable "C block" spectrum has hit $3.8 billion, or 83% of the FCC reserve price of $4.6 billion. That's important, given the fact that if the FCC didn't see the kind of money they were hoping for, they'd likely auction off the spectrum a second time without the open access conditions (for what they're worth) attached. Rules require bidders remain anonymous, so it's still too early to tell if incumbents AT&T & Verizon, Google, or some other entity are leading the C Block push, though yesterday's Spring/Clearwire/Google news could make things interesting.

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ok

If companies have this much money, how come they can't give some to their employees.

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said by brianiscool:

If companies have this much money, how come they can't give some to their employers.
I think you mean employees. It IS the employers that are getting the money.
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It's not managements money to give, it's the shareholders.

Also most companies give most of their revenue's to their employee's. Cost of labor is generally the highest cost for any company.

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Bidding to lose

So if they drive the price up, the people who have current spectrum will have a suddenly raised value of their past investment.
Some Sprint fans were boasting yesterday they already have 100Mhz in the US from east to west.
Given that, those making the earlier investments can undercut prices of whomever wins this auction, long as it's not them.

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C Band spectrum almost up to minimum bid after Round 13

The amount bid after Round 13 is up to $4,294,397,000. They only have to go to $4.6B to satisfy the minimum requirement. And the minimum bid to bid in Round 14 this afternoon is $4,865,795,000.

So by mid-afternoon, the C Band spectrum should be official, including the open access conditions.

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Re: C Band spectrum almost up to minimum bid after Round 13

Looks like the bidding on the C Band has stalled, with no bids in the last 3 rounds. That has left the bidding just short of the FCC required minimum.

I'm betting that Google didn't want to take that last step that would leave them leasing the spectrum and that they were waiting for Verizon Wireless(or whoever else was the only other bidder)to make the jump.

Sounds like a game of chicken between Google and whoever to see if Google will actually put its money where its mouth is and really bid to win.
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Re: C Band spectrum almost up to minimum bid after Round 13

I'm betting that Google pre-calculated the bidding pattern, and figured out the bidding plan so that they could get the spectrum for only $4.3 billion, or force it to go over the $4.6 billion reserve.

In other words, I think Google is the one with the (so far) winning $4.3 billion dollar bid, and just saved themselves 300 million dollars.

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Re: C Band spectrum almost up to minimum bid after Round 13

said by axus:

I'm betting that Google pre-calculated the bidding pattern, and figured out the bidding plan so that they could get the spectrum for only $4.3 billion, or force it to go over the $4.6 billion reserve.

In other words, I think Google is the one with the (so far) winning $4.3 billion dollar bid, and just saved themselves 300 million dollars.
It has to go to $4.6 billion or NO ONE gets the spectrum. The FCC set that as the absolute minimum in order to be awarded the spectrum. So Google can't win with a $4.3 B bid.
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Ohh I see, that's really a shame. I wonder how much of a premium the next buyer will pay to be rid of the open access requirements?

Edit: apparently not much, since it just hit reserve price. I'm guessing 3rd party, or a telco had to have a meeting overnight to determine how much of a premium. They must have figured out that it was still worth over 4.6 bil.

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Re: C Band spectrum almost up to minimum bid after Round 13

said by axus:

Ohh I see, that's really a shame. I wonder how much of a premium the next buyer will pay to be rid of the open access requirements?
The C block met the reserve price this morning. So there is now a buyer(unknown til the auction ends) for the spectrum with open access rules for cell devices.

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Correction

"yesterday's Spring/Clearwire/Google news"

s/Spring/Sprint/g

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When the inevitable headline "2009, The Year Of WiMax" comes out, it might possibly be true. But considering *Year of WiMax headline history*,I will leave my chickens uncounted until conception.

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Sprint Layoffs

With Sprint closing down stores and laying off employees. I really doubt it's them bidding. I have a feeling it's either Verizon Wireless or AT&T.

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said by openupshop:

With Sprint closing down stores and laying off employees. I really doubt it's them bidding. I have a feeling it's either Verizon Wireless or AT&T.
The word is that it is Google and Verizon Wireless, with Google dropping out as soon as the bidding passes $4.6 billion.
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I was thinking more of an *implied* Google, Sprint, Clearwire trifecta of sorts, if it were to materialize by some feat of "magic".
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