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Bandwidth Record: 150Gbps
130 DVD movies in one minute
Digg users point out that yet another network speed record has been broken by researchers from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. The researchers transferred physics data at a rate of over 150 gigabits per second; equivalent to downloading over 130 DVD movies in one minute. "The official peak throughput was 131.6 gigabits per second, measured during the Challenge on 17 of the 22 optical fiber links used by the team," notes their press release.
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technick
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technick

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But Why???

I'm kind of lost in regards to this.... This is just bragging rights, that's all it is. Deploying this type of technology is probably not feasible or practical for 99% of the world =\. Wake me up when Bellsouth or any other carrier for that matter can deliver competitive speeds on par with the rest of the world.

Glaice
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Glaice

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Re: But Why???

Why do they post this news when the consumer will never see it?

packetscan
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packetscan

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Re: But Why???

A consumer would (almost) never need that much..
I can't see that far into the future.

However a Business could use that..
MasamuneXGP
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Jackson, NJ

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Re: But Why???

Tell that to the companies offering residential 100mbps symmetrical connections in Japan.

blueeyesm
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Waterloo, ON

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Re: But Why???

There's a reason why they can: It's a freaking island compared to N. America!
meta
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Because people like you said the same thing about 10megabit ethernet. and then 100mbit ethernet. and then gigabit ethernet. and now your saying it about even faster technologies. If the consumers arent aware of this new hardware in development, they can not demand it from carriers. And while no your not ever going to get it tomorrow, some day in a few years you could if you pushed the industry for it. In a free market economy we are driven by consumer demand, and if the consumers are morons (like most voters) the indistries will not move forward (just as the government wont make consumer friendly choices unless the governed demand it)

GilbertMark
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Re: But Why???

said by meta:

and if the consumers are morons (like most voters)
You mean if the consumers are morons (like people who register but DON'T vote)?

Kompressor
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Re: But Why???

No, if the consumers are morons (like the people who do register to vote but don't know who to vote for but vote anyway based on TV comercials).

DaDogs
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said by meta:

...
and if the consumers are morons
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You wind up with morons that think they need to download 150 DVDs per minute who demand that sort of bandwidth from their carrier...

What was that about voters again?

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said by Glaice:

Why do they post this news when the consumer will never see it?
Because this kind of bandwidth isn't meant for consumers, and believe it or not, there are other entities on the Internet, such as businesses, universities, etc, etc.

These kind of bandwidth connections are used for Internet backbones, to connect countries and large businesses, etc, etc.

You, with a single computer cannot even fill your harddrive at that rate of speed. But if you have 1000+ computers on each side, that kind of bandwidth can be very handy.

There's more to the internet then the speed of which a consumer can download.

sporkme
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said by Glaice:

Why do they post this news when the consumer will never see it?
Because this site covers tech news? My grandma doesn't care, but most anyone who dabbles in networking does...

Not everything reported here has to revolve around faster ways to get porn to the home.
patcat88
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To increase stock price and demand. Its simple PR crap for investors. Same stuff as the flying car or vacations on the moon.
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said by technick:

I'm kind of lost in regards to this.... This is just bragging rights, that's all it is. Deploying this type of technology is probably not feasible or practical for 99% of the world =\. Wake me up when Bellsouth or any other carrier for that matter can deliver competitive speeds on par with the rest of the world.
Im tired of these remarks from everyone every time they post an advancement in speeds. if you people were in power, we'd still be running on 14.4k, running DOS saying we would never need more than that to transfer even super large .rtf files.

auntie emmy
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Damn physicists brag and buulshit all the time. Just ignore this crap.

sirsloop
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hard drive

if only my hard drive would write that fast.

gate1975mlm
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Re: hard drive

That would rock!

cao1964
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Re: hard drive

said by gate1975mlm:

That would rock!
You mean this news is a rock, basically useless and makes the Movie industry freak out.

Tokidoki
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if only my hard drive would write that fast.
That puzzles me when I read these type of 'news'
If most hard drives cant write that much data in that speed, then what are these people using?

cdru
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Re: hard drive

said by Tokidoki:
said by sirsloop:

if only my hard drive would write that fast.
That puzzles me when I read these type of 'news'
If most hard drives cant write that much data in that speed, then what are these people using?
Massive drive arrays. It appears that that the data was basically particle physics information. They look at what happens when you slam one particle into another, and that hits others, and those hitting even more. Your data information quickly expands exponentially. In this case, they had 475TB of information to work with and transfer.

With that much information, you probably aren't going to be able to look at it all at once. So you may want to look at it later at a different location, or share it with other researchers, etc. Because of so much data needs to be moved, transfer rates really matter.

So yeah you and I are never going to see transfer rates like that with our home broadband. But some of that technology could trickle down into what we use someday.

Tokidoki
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Re: hard drive

So they are basically just pushing 475TB of data but its sent out seperately to a whole bunch of hard drive clusters?

cdru
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Re: hard drive

I don't know all the specifics, but most likely it's something like that. It's not one PC with a single HD sending to another. It's massive supercomputers with custom built huge storage arrays sending to other supercomputers also with huge storage arrays.

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said by Tokidoki:
said by sirsloop:

if only my hard drive would write that fast.
That puzzles me when I read these type of 'news'
If most hard drives cant write that much data in that speed, then what are these people using?
Huge RAM drives.

haze_nme
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Re: hard drive

lol... Even a ramdrive is limited to the speed of the RAM. On my high end system I can get a little over 5GB/s, but most mid-range dual channel systems achieve 3-4GB/s max.
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Re: hard drive

Aye. And there's the issue of quickly running out of ram. What good is infinite bandwidth if you have a finite amount of storage room?

manfmmd
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So what.....

Who cares when most people have a problem getting 1500/384 on DSL.

I'll be impressed when everyone can get cable or DSL. Why is this news?

cao1964
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Re: So what.....

said by manfmmd:

Who cares when most people have a problem getting 1500/384 on DSL.

I'll be impressed when everyone can get cable or DSL. Why is this news?
Well said, but but what gets to me is how is this big news, so they ran what some fiber from point a to point b and they got these figures, well is American not in the forfront of useless technology that take 50 years to get to the consumer, give me some real news about real figures, not some fantasy speeds that I may not even see in my life time; hell my 4 year old will not see it the way things are going.
ReneM
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Re: So what.....

you will never see that speed and it's also not important that you will or will not see it. it's important that super computers can be meshed at that speed now. non military non US sources have access to this technology and will be able to reach/access cpu power so far restricted to the US only.

vpoko
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said by manfmmd:

Who cares when most people have a problem getting 1500/384 on DSL.

I'll be impressed when everyone can get cable or DSL. Why is this news?
Yeah, because the world of computing and networking should be limited to the lowest-common-denominator. Scientists will be using this needed technology in a few years for very important physics experiments involving terrabytes of data, and the don't (rightfully) give a s**t what Uncle Bob in Lafayette is getting for DSL speeds.

djrobx
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Get it to one fiber strand and thousands of miles

Then you'll have a slightly more interesting story.

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maartena

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Re: Get it to one fiber strand and thousands of miles

said by djrobx:

Then you'll have a slightly more interesting story.
The bandwidth between Europe and North America was roughly 4775 Gbps by the end of 2004, and they have been adding to it continuesly, it has probably surpassed the 5000 Gbps by now.

True, most of those cables are many strands of fiber because they have to use multiple color spectrums to transfer over that much distance without the posibility of "amplifying" the signal.

Matt3
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Bah to you all

I thought this was cool news.

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tired_runner
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Perhaps none of you look outside the box

That much throughput could sustain the bandwidth needs of global-class IP carriers without worrying much about expansion in the foreseeable future. It will help bring down costs eventually, as the amount of back-end equipment would likely reduce, as opposed to several pipes not only used for redundancy but capacity.
pamulli
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The future

We may never see these speeds, but pretty much everything we have today was theoretical pie in the sky stuff 15 years ago. It all starts somewhere.

vpoko
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Why is everyone complaining?

It's research, folks. Obivously it's not meant for the consumer market but it's very important for future technologies. Thinking something isn't news just because you can't get it is self-centered.

When ARPANET was launched, it wasn't available to most consumers either, yet it was instrumenal in the invention of today's Internet a generation later.

elbm
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Re: Why is everyone complaining?

You forget, the majority of posters only come to DSLR to bitch. Most of them have no clue what they are talking about, few even understand their last mile and truthfully most of them don't want to know more. Don't let anyone muddy there rant with some facts.

Here is a short history of DSLR posters:

1878- Telephone? What the heck is wrong with the telegraph? You can't communicate across the country with a telephone, the sound is terrible and beside out here we'll won't see it, it'll just be for them city slickers.

1928- TV? Why would any body want to look at pictures? That is what the movie shows are for.

1954- "Bell Labs today achieved the first digital transmission at a rate of 1.5 million bits per second..." Marge what the hell is a bit? What's digital? Why are they wasting time on the TV news with this crap? Like it effects me. Get me a beer Marge!

1977- "First US fiber optic phone link was installed." Why are they reporting this? Business only use that digital crap. My phone works fine-- they better not mess it up! When am I going to get cable? My brother has cable.....

vpoko
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Re: Why is everyone complaining?

That said, BBR is an industry site, so it is a little more "well, what can you do for me now?", but you'd think people would understand that research does impact the industry, if not right away then eventually.
Jonbo298
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MPAA

and now the MPAA will come and shut down the entire project

Noah Vail
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And when it finally does get to me.....

....It'll STILL take 2 hours to patch Windows.

NV

sirsloop
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dont forget!

im would not say that we will never see those speeds... remember 10 years ago when a PENTIUM 100!!! was the king processor... never to be outdone? We're up to what now.. like 3,500 or something like that?

We already have readily available gigabit local area networks...and there is a constant push for paster internet speeds because of the cable/dsl battle. It's coming.

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rawgerz
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150Gbps=

about 384 hard drives had to simultainusly send data, i wonder if the lights started to flicker when they started that

Camelot One
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They can build fast networks, but fail basic math?

I'm confused. When did "official peak throughput was 131.6 gigabits per second" become "a rate of over 150 gigabits per second"? Are they using the same new math to measure their rates? If so my DSL is running at over 100Gbps already.

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skatedork
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I for one, welcome our new search engine overlords

They are slowly taking over the world!
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Bandwidth Record: 150Gbps

Ask your self how much will it cost?
msmenard
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Evolution

It use to be that you could buy the fastest computer for over 2000$ (a big 486) and at the time it was considered the top of the line. You where happy to wait a few minutes for a document or program to open. Now the computers are faster and I find myself being impatient when I have to wait a few seconds to open a big document. No matter how fast things are now, they will always get faster with new technology and people always wanting to push the limit.

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ftthz
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.

maybe they'll drop the price if they had some real competition

LilYoda
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but I have good news

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to XXX

inClarksdale
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Re: But Why?

So going to the moon should not have been in the news because EVERYONE did not get to go too?

Odd.
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RIAA incensed

In other news, the RIAA announced today it has filed a lawsuit against the Fermi National Laboratory. An RIAA spokesperson released a statement that read in part,

"...(we) intend to prosecute anyone who mentions the words 'DVD' and 'downloading' in the same sentence. People don't realize how this kind of talk is taking away the multi-million dollar vacation homes of our record executives".

reasontobemad
@nycmny.fios.verizon.

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Turn it up to ludacris speed!!

Ludacris speed!, not ludacris speed, YES, turn it up to ludacris speed!!

Now if servers like speakeasy had backbones of this size, we'd see the true potential of our measly 15megabits FIOS lines
Make with the bandwidth already, I'm dying over here..
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