 danclan join:2005-11-01 Midlothian, VA | VA is a HOT market.... Damn straight skippy! VA is a battle ground state. It has the right mix of population density and salary. It also has the luxury of not being a giant state and lucky enough to have fairly large cities in all corners and center of the state.
This obviously lends itself to competition since the essential infrastructure is easily installed and can easily tie into multiple national backbones.
And in case anyone missed it Washington D.C. in on our border. So high amounts of local competition make for good press all around.
Is the state perfect...hell no.. still lots of towns without anything remotely like broadband. Is it one of the better states? Absolutely.
The broadband situation across the US is building towards critical mass. When the playing field is leveled for all ( TV, phone, private, state etc) I think we will see explosion of services even for many of those currently unable to receive these services..... or i could be just full of it and those SOL now will be SOL later.... | |
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 |  | | Re: VA is a HOT market.... There is a difference between Northern Virginia and the rest of the state. | |
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 |  | | said by danclan:Damn straight skippy! VA is a battle ground state. It has the right mix of population density Ohhh keep on talkin southern boy. 
Easy for you to talk about population density. You don't have to deal with NoVA's traffic. But you Richmond folk do get all of our tax dollars (just kiddin... not really...)  | |
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 |  |  danclan join:2005-11-01 Midlothian, VA | Re: VA is a HOT market.... I grew up in NOVA bought a clue and moved out...
NOVA is different I will give you that but as a tax base i think Va Beach is just as big as NOVA it just doesn't get the press | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: VA is a HOT market.... »www.fccc.org/newsroom/newsclips/taxtalk.html
From the article:
quote: And he wants a bigger share for Northern Virginia, where a quarter of the state's residents live and which delivers 40 percent of the state's tax revenue, Lecos says. Under the current code, for every dollar Fairfax generates in state taxes, Virginia returns only 18 cents to the county, he says.
Though I don't have anything to back it up, I suspect the VA Beach/Chesapeke area doesn't account for 40%. | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Virginia home to Washington pols; coincidence?
Virginia: Awash With Broadband Options
I wonder if the fact that Virginia is home to many of the politicians, lobbyists, government officials, bureaucrats, etc from Washington, DC is a reason that the Washington suburbs have more broadband choices than anywhere else in America.
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 |  | | Re: Virginia home to Washington pols; coincidence? Wealth. Which is one and the same, I suppose. | |
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 |  | | Wait a minute? Aren't the taxpayers going to have to pay for this muni broadband? Don't comcast and verizon DESERVE a big chunk of the income? I mean, these horrible muni companies are TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE SHAREHOLDERS POCKETS! And it's making MORE MONEY than expected ! "Increasing its volume of customers has also helped the Optinet divisions financial performance. Originally forecast to lose about $811,000 from July through October, the Optinet loss was about $417,000."
*begin Helen Lovejoy voice* Won't someone PLEASE think of the Shareholders? *end Helen Lovejoy voice* -- Sure the internet has lots of porn and piracy, but I'm sure there's a downside to it. | |
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 | | Awash??? I live in Virginia and i don't have S&^!......coincidence?Like all areas it's most likely population density than wealth. | |
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 |  ropeguruPremium join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA | Re: Awash??? said by Hipjones:I live in Virginia and i don't have S&^!......coincidence?Like all areas it's most likely population density than wealth. Actually more like wealth. I am in Richmond and because Verizon refuses to build out an remote dslams, many of us have Comcast as our only choice. And since Verizon likes to cream skim with FIOS, even those of us in populated areas will be the last to see FIOS rolled out. Sorry, but I do refuse to spend $500,000 on a home just to get FIOS and then not be able to afford furniture. And I have been in many a home in western Henrico that is like that too. -- FWD#: 223611 | |
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 |  | | I, too, live in Virginia and there is absolutely no broadband (except satellite) in my area which is within 100 miles of Washington, DC. This is just inexcusable in this day and time! Perhaps the new Virginia Governor will address the lack of broadband in the more rural areas of this state. | |
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 Vamp5c077Premium join:2003-01-28 MD kudos:1 | DC.. I would probably say DC has the most broadband options, just because of how small the area is, FIOS is pretty much deployed everywhere around DC now.
Most servers I trace to ping at 10ms cause it goes to DC, so many sites are hosted in DC / have a server in DC, but then again I only live like 40 miles from DC. -- space for rent | |
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 |  1 edit | Re: DC.. said by Vamp:I would probably say DC has the most broadband options, just because of how small the area is, FIOS is pretty much deployed everywhere around DC now. Most servers I trace to ping at 10ms cause it goes to DC, so many sites are hosted in DC / have a server in DC, but then again I only live like 40 miles from DC. Most of the "DC" servers are actually in NoVA (Northern Virginia) or Maryland. There's not a whole lot of datacenter space in the city itself.
For broadband in the city, its mostly just DSL vs. cable. There are a handful of WiFi providers though.
NoVA by far has the most broadband options. DSL, Cable, Wireless, BPL (in Manassas), and FiOS.. and I'm probably missing a couple.
edit: thanks to Smokeater980 for pointing out my typo  | |
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 |  |  SmokeyI'd rather be skiingPremium join:2003-05-20 Wild West | Re: DC.. How is Maryland NOVA? -- Stop Bear Abuse! | |
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 | | Its due to population density not wealth I live in Southern Virginia and around here it is mixed. If you live within a town then you can get broadband no problems. But as soon as you leave town you're pretty much out of luck.
So...at least in this area population density (NOT wealth) determines whether you can get broadband.
This country will not have broadband covering it to all 4 corners and people need to realize this. The sooner the better. Notice I left out never, the reason being it could be covered in say 20yrs or so, but it won't. The main reason being you'd have fiber running to homes out in BFE for no good reason save 1 house. That is a waste of resources. If those people want broadband so bad they can move to a place that offers it. Like I've said before broadband is not a right, it is a choice. If you want it and can't wait, then move. When I moved I made darn sure I was in a populated area that would have access to broadband.
But, yes VA does have a multitude of options. D.C is between us and Maryland. I'm sure that accounts for some of the options due to the large population of that Northern Region. Not only that you have AOL headquartered in Fairfax, which probably puts loads of money into infrastructure.
But keep in mind the population. I used to live in Spotsylvania and that population boomed in the 5-10 years I lived there. So much so it is like Dale City was about 10 years ago. Yet my parents live in a nice area out about 20 miles and have no broadband options except satellite.
And not all politicians live in VA. Keep in mind you have reps from all over the country here. They have homes back in their various states. If they live anywhere its probably within DC or close to that area. Which technically is not VA. | |
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 |  | | Re: Its due to population density not wealth said by Techman21:But, yes VA does have a multitude of options. D.C is between us and Maryland. I'm sure that accounts for some of the options due to the large population of that Northern Region. Not only that you have AOL headquartered in Fairfax, which probably puts loads of money into infrastructure. Correction, it's in Loudoun County (Dulles, VA is the address, though Dulles is really a subset of Sterling.).
That said, AOL does have a sizable office in Fairfax County.
Loudoun is also home to MCI's HQ, Neustar's HQ and several others. | |
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 |  signmeuptooLove those still alivePremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 Reviews:
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The nation, the entire nation, deserves fiber to the home. Period. And attitudes like yours are backwards in my opinion. We must push forwards because we are WAY behind nations such as Korea. This is unacceptable, and it is the result of attitudes like yours, which is a selfish attitude.
Do you donate to charity, or do you say tough luck to them too? -- This Thanksgiving and Christmas, give generously. Charities are hurting nationwide. Giving will make you feel better than getting. Protect Taiwan and The Philippines from China! Beat it, Bush, sorry I voted for ya, you have betrayed your country!!! | |
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 | | Fun with the calendar "More than 1,000 individuals and businesses requested service in the first four months of the fiscal quarter."
That's a long quarter, fiscal or otherwise. | |
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 vic102482Premium join:2002-04-30 Upper Marlboro, MD | VA is where the money is Well it aint in MD (well PG county anyways:p) | |
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 |  | | Re: VA is where the money is ropeguru wrote: Sorry, but I do refuse to spend $500,000 on a home just to get FIOS
I live in Sterling VA directly across the street from Dullas town mall. I have no DSL I have no wireless ISP I have no BLP What I do have is Adelphia... Its my only option at the moment. I have lived here now for 8 years and only in the past 2 years has. broad band become available to us here in Sterling VA. We have a light Span box in front of our home But Verizon cant pass DSL over their copper that leads to our home. and the fiber that leads from the CO to the light span in antiquated. . BTW my Town house is worth 500K. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: VA is where the money is A $500k home on rt 7 across from Dulles Town Center and a $500k home in western Henrico county are two very different things. -- Hail To The Redskins | |
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 |  |  |  ropeguruPremium join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA | Re: VA is where the money is said by cpayne5:A $500k home on rt 7 across from Dulles Town Center and a $500k home in western Henrico county are two very different things. Got that right... A $500,000 home in Henrico County is probably abut equal toa $800,000+ home in NoVA. When I see people trying to move closer into D.C. and want to buy a 1,000 square foot townhome with no parking and they have no problem paying $400,000 for it, I know they are nuts... -- FWD#: 223611 | |
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 ESVA @dynamic-dialup.coret | esva When is the northern part of the ESVA gonna get dsl or fiber? | |
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 |  | | Re: esva Ironic that the eastern shore isn't even on the little icon for this "news" story, isn't it? -- Hail To The Redskins | |
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 |  |  ESV @dynamic-dialup.coret | Re: esva yea i wanna know about that aswell
but is it really that bad for verizon to just do FIOS up and down route 13? is that too much to ask? | |
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 |  |  |  metal1Premium join:2002-10-27 Melfa, VA | Re: esva I was just reading in last weeks local paper Accomack and North Hampton are going to join in a venture to run fiber up rte 13 and offer wireless broadband from there | |
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 TekkananoPremium join:2002-03-02 Alexandria, VA | Buurrrr... It's very cold up here...it's hard to use my broadband. My fingers are freezing. Only if the cable modem was hotter. -- Cox gave me the speed I wanted, so no more dreaming of DSL...humm, got fiber? | |
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 | | Obvious! A local utility in Bristol Virginia can't keep up with demand for fiber to the home/business service
This isnt at all surprising. They're all a bunch of rich ****'s! | |
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 |  | | Re: Obvious! I used to live near Bristol, VA... that area as a whole IS NOT RICH! frankly.. it's located in one of the poorest parts of the country (Appalachian region). Are u talking about the ppl who live there or the company. I'd say the company is RICH.. the ppl for the most part are not. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Obvious! doh! withdrawn. wrong part of the state I had in mind. | |
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