  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Wilkes Barre has more serious problems
Wilkes Barre doesn't need to ask Verizon's permission to remove all the drug-addicted bums and beggars from the street. Why don't they do that instead? -- Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems You are darn right Wilkes-Barre has more serious problems.
WiFi should not be on the top of their list of things to address.
I would be surprised if anyone would even use WiFi there. The literacy rate there is abysmal as is poverty and lack of education. | |
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| said by pnh102 :Wilkes Barre doesn't need to ask Verizon's permission to remove all the drug-addicted bums and beggars from the street. Why don't they do that instead? If they want WiFi, they are just as entitled as a rich community. Have you thought that more ready access to technology and education might actually help them? Or is the only way to deal with beggars and drug users to lock them up (or torture them, you seem to like torture). | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by vpoko :education might actually help them? Indeed education might help them. They need all the help they can get. | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by enOehT :Indeed education might help them. They need all the help they can get. See I'd be all for dumping the money they would spend on WiFi into the school system. -- Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! | |
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| said by vpoko :If they want WiFi, they are just as entitled as a rich community. Have you thought that more ready access to technology and education might actually help them? Philadelphia spent nearly $1 billion on new sports stadiums while they continue to have some of the worst schools in Pennsylvania and a disturbingly increasing crime rate. You would think they would be all for pouring more money into the school system (go drive down Broad Street and see how palatial the school system building is) or hiring more cops. Nah, they just want to waste their money on an unneeded toy network. Other "cash-strapped" cities in Penna. shouldn't be making this mistake. -- Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by pnh102 :said by vpoko :If they want WiFi, they are just as entitled as a rich community. Have you thought that more ready access to technology and education might actually help them? Philadelphia spent nearly $1 billion on new sports stadiums while they continue to have some of the worst schools in Pennsylvania and a disturbingly increasing crime rate. You would think they would be all for pouring more money into the school system (go drive down Broad Street and see how palatial the school system building is) or hiring more cops. Nah, they just want to waste their money on an unneeded toy network. Other "cash-strapped" cities in Penna. shouldn't be making this mistake. Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk. | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by vpoko :Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk. Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower. -- Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by pnh102 :said by vpoko :Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk. Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia  The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower. So you're saying that the city is spending taxpayer dollars to build this network? Do you have a reference or is this an intuition? | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by vpoko :said by pnh102 :said by vpoko :Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk. Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia  The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower. So you're saying that the city is spending taxpayer dollars to build this network? Do you have a reference or is this an intuition? I thought you were saying that Earthlink was assuming the financial risk on the stadum. The original post talked about the money spent on the stadium, not any money spent on Wireless Philadelphia. -- ISCABBS - the oldest and largest BBS on the Internet telnet://whip.isca.uiowa.edu Member: American Association of Geographers, American Geophysical Union, American Water Resources Association | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by marigolds :said by vpoko :said by pnh102 :said by vpoko :Philadelphia is not spending taxpayer money - they set up a non-profit and Earthlink is assuming the financial risk. Heh... you got a lot to learn about the way things get done in Philadelphia  The only risk Earthlink is taking is that all the politicians they bought off don't end up in prison or jump to their deaths from atop the City Hall tower. So you're saying that the city is spending taxpayer dollars to build this network? Do you have a reference or is this an intuition? I thought you were saying that Earthlink was assuming the financial risk on the stadum. The original post talked about the money spent on the stadium, not any money spent on Wireless Philadelphia. My bad! I know nothing of the stadium. | |
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| said by pnh102 :Wilkes Barre doesn't need to ask Verizon's permission to remove all the drug-addicted bums and beggars from the street. Why don't they do that instead? Getting rid of people sure has a nice ring to it, maybe he should focus funds on opening up more of the homeless shelters which I think he closed since somebody told me there has not been this many homeless on the streets for years. I bet, plenty of those people could want a job and would probably find plenty within public works as well.
Btw, its great to know that the same company that is forcing me and my roommates to fork over $40 a month, where did the $30 a month deal go, is going to supply the wireless. And it is probably going to be in the old section too so I won't be able to receive it from my apartment. | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by JTRockville :Are Wilkes Barre officials limited to only one action at a time, or is it possible they could do both (deal with drug-addicted bums and beggers AND build a Wi-Fi network)? They could but if you have a limited amount of cash, as most cities do, then it makes more sense to allocate that cash to solve the most critical problems first and then use what is left to deal with other issues. -- Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! | |
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| Re: Wilkes Barre has more serious problems said by pnh102 :said by JTRockville :Are Wilkes Barre officials limited to only one action at a time, or is it possible they could do both (deal with drug-addicted bums and beggers AND build a Wi-Fi network)? They could but if you have a limited amount of cash, as most cities do, then it makes more sense to allocate that cash to solve the most critical problems first and then use what is left to deal with other issues. Ahh, the article is not clear on whether this would be paid for with tax dollars. If so, I have to agree with you there. if they want to expand internet access to poor communities the best way to do it would be through public libraries. Otherwise there are much more urgent ways to spend that money. | |
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| Stop with city government and do co-op communications companies can not complain if the citizens form a co-op and build the wireless network that way. The downside is the investment up front vs. the check the city would be able to write. Though you may save on the legal bills. -- »www.silentbrouhaha.com | |
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| Re: Stop with city government and do co-op said by NOCMan :communications companies can not complain if the citizens form a co-op and build the wireless network that way. Amen to that. The people can even make it a non-profit service as well. Anything that keeps the government out of the picture will be good. -- Rove / Rumsfeld 2008! | |
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| What the hell? Isn't WilkesBarre getting fios? why would someone want to compete with all those wide-open free wifi routers and build a for charge wifi network?!?
Somone is really stupid, If you wanna compete, put another FTTP provider in the area, to compete with verizon.. the MORE competition, the better. Just wireless for some PA areas is not the way to go, in Philly it makes more sense because of the population density of its suburbs, urban areas. | |
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| Monopolistic? This is exactly the type of behavior I'm talking about when i call (certain) companies Monopolies.
This is now extremely evident with Verizon.
So i appear Verizon "OWNS" PA. Other wise shouldn't i be applying to town/city hall?, maybe even the state capital.
But requiring permission from a Publicly Held company? Ludicrous.!
I'm Disgusted!
edit: »www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&···polistic -- Who do you want to pay off today? | |
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