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Quitting Caffeine - Argh
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | Makes sense to me.... Buy them out now to offer TV, then kill them off when they start offering their IPTV or migrate customers who can get it to IPTV and offer Echostar to those who can't.
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
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2 edits | Re: Makes sense to me.... While remotely possible, this deal seems unlikely at best.Still, some think talk of a merger is a bit premature. Thomas , an analyst with Oppenheimer & Co., said he doesn't think a deal is likely anytime soon. Instead, he thinks AT&T may take a wait-and-see approach.
"Why would AT&T want to buy EchoStar when they already have the alliance now?" he said. "Strategically, I don't see motivation for doing it. The company is too far along on its own rollout."
There's also the issue of whether or not AT&T should be taking on another deal so soon. The SBC/AT&T merger just closed in December. --
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| Damn had me worried I want Echostar/dish network to stay just the way it is. The only thing I wish is that Qwest had a deal with Echostar instead of Direct TV. Wait a minute:( Qwest buying Echostar, no, no, think about Hillary instead, groan, where is my coffee.;)
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| Re: Damn had me worried said by Transmaster  : no, no, think about Hillary instead, groan Here, this may help:
Is Echostar in financial trouble? Can't say I've paid much attention to them.
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g0nepostal
I Am The One Her Mom Warned Her About
join:2001-03-23
Concord, CA
clubs: | Re: Damn had me worried I'm sorry, what was the topic again?
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | Use their Satellites Even cable use's sat to feed tv to their markets. This could very well be a move that would help AT&T deliver their IPTV system to their markets and then use fiber or whatever to feed it to the customer's home with IP from there. | |
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Maarvin
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join:2005-04-11
Denver, CO | Re: Use their Satellites Charle Eckmann will not sell his satellite TV company cheaply. I doubt that AT&T can afford it. | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Use their Satellites said by Maarvin :Charle Eckmann will not sell his satellite TV company cheaply. I doubt that AT&T can afford it. Charlie Ergen ?
I see more of an investment coming from this. They invest in echostar and then use it to deliver most of the content to the home. Using iptv to deliver only the vod.
Almost like they did with Cingular.
Didn't we discuss this some time ago ?
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Geminimind
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Sacramento, CA | Trust me at&t can afford it | |
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packetscan
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Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Excellent point..
This will give them a broad spectrum of possibilities.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Re: Use their Satellites ...as I see it, the only bright spot is that it might actually spur the cable companies to seriously deploy VoIP so that they can offer equivalent packages to what a combined att/echostar could.
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA
| A good idea would be to use them for sattellite broadband, for those without DSL. Bundle it with phone and TV. Ecostar did launch a new bird not too long ago for broadband. They could do soem crazy bundle like, Phone,TV, Broadband(sat or DSL), and Cingular. Hell of an idea. | |
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oroper
Patriots Rule
join:2004-06-01
Beverly, MA | Only a matter of time before the headlines will read
"AT&T Eyeing Verizon"
Who wants to start the betting? 
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NY Tel
Always 180 Degrees Out-of-Phase
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Smithtown, NY
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| Re: Only a matter of time said by oroper :before the headlines will read "AT&T Eyeing Verizon"Who wants to start the betting? I think it will be the other way around....
Verizon, who by the way is going to change their name again according to sources once the MCI acquisition is completed.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: Only a matter of time Mcizon ?
I would hate to see another name change. Just rebrand everything to verizon. it's a great name.
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NY Tel
Always 180 Degrees Out-of-Phase
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Smithtown, NY
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| Re: Only a matter of time I agree and think they should keep the Verizon name as it now has national brand recognition.
But my choice for a new name would be:
Mseeskyzon - kind of an eclectic blend of both companies and cultures...what? You think it sucks and is bogus? It doesn't suck any less than the name Verizon....:p
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join:2001-02-21
| Nah, the other way around. There's a higher chance that AT&T will buy Verizon. I don't see either happening really. But AT&T would eye Verizon. Verizon's value is going down, went from $101 bln to about $83 bln. Plus the company is heavily in debt, it's gonna be near $70 bln soon. That's probably one reason they're selling their phone book division for $17 bln. They may even sell some of their assets. Where did you read that Verizon will be changing their name? I read that MCI will be a subsidary of Verizon when the deal is completed in early January. Investors always thought Verizon would buy Vodafone. No way. An $83 bln company buying a $133 bln company, no way. Verizon getting Alltel (low debt, about $5.6 bln I think) is a sure thing, although Alltel would go nice with Qwest (imagine Qwest Wireless). Plus, Qwest services the areas where Alltel is. I think there will be 3 major players left: AT&T, Verizon, and possibly Qwest (unless a couple companies get together like Level 3, etc). | |
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join:2004-01-07
Sarasota, FL
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| Re: Only a matter of time Your nuts
Alltel will not be bought. They will not accept any offers from verizon they are not dressing themselves up for a buy out like one person has said in teh pass.
Also Verizon is not the same as Verizon Wireless which would be the only assets that any form of verizon would be interesting in.
the alltel landline could be sold but I doubt it would be verizon as they are simply too small as a landline but quite large as a wireless company. | |
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NY Tel
Always 180 Degrees Out-of-Phase
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY | Heard the name change rumor from one of my ex co-workers at Verizon where I used to work.
Could be just "mole chatter" or something real.
Who knows.
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | I hope Verizon, doesn't get engulfed by the deathstar. Then again maybe Verizon will become MCI. | |
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RoguePimp
join:2001-01-31
Phoenix, AZ | Yes its true Since I work for one of the companies...I can say that these are not rumors but fact. It has been discussed at high levels for some time. | |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
|  NO THANKS! AT&T just go away!
I don't want "double/triple play" packaging, and at&t/sbc doesn't serve my area as an ILEC so its of no benefit.
I don't see this as a benefit to either company, and most certrainly not to existing Dish customers.
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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Bellsouth will be soon to follow. My predictions for 2006:
Cingular changes to AT&T Wireless
AT&T buys Bellsouth
Verizon buys Alltel
Comcast or another major cable co. buys a wireless carrier. | |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| Re: Bellsouth will be soon to follow. said by Gilitar :
My predictions for 2006:
Verizon buys Alltel
This IS the DEAL announcement I've been waiting for, for years. Their wireless divisions are pretty chummy as it is now, and this would make sense in wireless, but one thing I see a problem, Alltel's ILEC areas.
VZ is trying to shed "rural" ILEC translation UNPROFITABLE areas. So if they bought out Alltel these people would probably get sold down the river again.
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awax
join:2000-09-25
Fayetteville, AR | Re: Bellsouth will be soon to follow. Alltel spun off thier wire line holdings into a new company. | |
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Toledo, OH | Re: Bellsouth will be soon to follow. doesnt look like they shed off the wireline services on their website. | |
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Linux Junkie
join:2004-01-07
Sarasota, FL | Re: Bellsouth will be soon to follow. Alltel just wirline still will be called alltel but it spun off so it can eventually be sold. | |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
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join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs: | Who is going to change the name of their town? Are we now going to have AT&T,TX?
Was there a disclaimer in the Dish,TX deal where they will have to change their name again?  | |
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op
join:2005-07-16
Smyrna, DE
| Ma Bell Returns After Ma Bell was broken up in 86, Looks like Ma Bell is going to return to its thrown, slowly but surely. It may take a few more years but Ma Bell well be back. By 2010 it will be Ma Bell vs Comcast vs Satelite(if still around). We will have more compitation between either sat., cable, or telephone. So it will not be just 1 dominating company. I dont think the FCC will break up Ma Bell again with cable and satelite as compitation.;) | |
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·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Ma Bell Returns The FCC did not break up "Ma Bell". The Department of Justice initiated it via an anti-trust suit based mostly on monopolistic practices involving it's Western Electric subsidiary. You may not remember but at the time, AT&T was the largest corporation on the planet, and employed more people than any other entity save the US Government.
AT&T broke itself up to settle the anti-trust suit and avoid what could have been a never-ending prosecution, via a consent decree.
The conditions which allowed "Ma Bell" to rise to power no longer exist, and never will again. What you have now are budding telecommunications media companies vying with each other for bigger slices of a pie not yet baked. The sparring will continue for awhile, but I predict no more than four companies will walk away from the counter with the pastry.
And it's "throne", not "thrown".
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Going Backwards AT&T already tried the cable TV racket and ended up selling it off to Comcast for less than what they paid for it. What makes them think that they would run Echostar any better?
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | Re: Going Backwards Indeed. Why would they buy another TV company if their last purchase failed? Of course, that was all before SBC. | |
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drjekel
@emhril.ameritech | that was the old att this att is really sbc | |
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Geminimind
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join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA | The thing about AT&T is its not old AT&T but at&t, it is basically SBC with a new name. Baby bought Ma bell so it is baby controlling Mama | |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA
·Comcast
| The new at&t is touted a a communication and entertainment company. It knows it needs content, which it currently
lacks. If it can gobble up Dish Network for cheap, it will to gain more control over content distribution.
It is deja vu all over again, circa 1998, this time with content, not last mile access. | |
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AKA21
@mindspring.com | re: Content E* is in the business of satellite communications. They are not in the content business. They need content, yes, but do they provide it? No. | |
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gpancner
join:2001-09-27
Nine Mile Falls, WA | Dish Network SUCKS! Directv beats dish network anyday!!! | |
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AT&T Eyeing Echostar?