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Portland, OR | Not bad at all This means they've only spent $32,000 per customer. | |
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Sherman Oaks, CA | Easy choice to make! Let's see AO-hell for $23.95 slow dialup, or 768K DSL for $14.95??? | |
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DSL4Brains
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Portland, OR | Re: Easy choice to make! Hey, I'm not knocking Verizon. Next week they start tearing up the streets in my neighborhood for FiOS! | |
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Westminster, CA
| Re: Not bad at all FIOS,Westminster is scheduled to begin this year.
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| | M3NT4L
join:2003-12-23
O Fallon, MO | Now the 14.95 DSL price has been pulled from 26 LATA's in the Verizon West footprint (fGTE) area!! Sorry people but you're going to pay full price now.:o | |
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20 | "Introductory offer?" As far I know, Verizon's $15/month DSL service isn't an "introductory price." That's the monthly price for 768/128 service with a one-year contract.
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2 edits | Re: "Introductory offer?" Yes, it is only the 768/128 plan. You can see their pricing packages here. | |
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93254336
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1 edit | Re: "Introductory offer?" Right... that's the package I currently have. My point is that it isn't "introductory" pricing, i.e. after a few months at $14.95/month, the price doesn't increase.
Edit: Karl corrected the OP. 
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@stmarytx.edu | Re: "Introductory offer?" hmm and month 1 is free... so its really 14.95*11/12 = only 13.70 a month. not bad | |
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Smithtown, NY
 ·VOIPo
| said by 93254336  :As far I know, Verizon's $15/month DSL service isn't an "introductory price." That's the monthly price for 768/128 service with a one-year contract. - Dan The price will stay the same even after your year is up, you just need to sign up for another year to get the same price.
You can also get it without a telephone line (no dial tone) for 19.95 a month. | |
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join:2002-03-01
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| Verizon Bashers 100,000 customers billing per month is roughly $5 -15 Million dollars a month in revenues, depending on services ordered. You can see why investors are worried, though they are not necessarily right. This does not make them irrational, just cautious. | |
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join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
| Re: DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too "A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well." Exactly what I was talking about. A Verizon Basher. You have no idea of what you are talking about. You are passing off your bogus opinion as fact. Verizon does offer Dry Loop and UNEP (Verizon DSL different Phone provider) DSL which can be order through over the phone.
Never assume what someone (even me) types on this page as fact people! Read, Research, and think for yourself. | |
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GOLFnSUN
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Avalon, NJ
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| Re: DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too Really??
Well that isn't what their web site says: »www22.verizon.com/ForHomeDSL/cha···ault.asp
Offer by Verizon Online for all new DSL customers. A $19.95 shipping and activation charge will apply to each DSL order. An additional monthly Supplier FUSF recovery charge will be added to your monthly bill. Early termination fee of $79 applies to one year plans. Verizon residential local service is required.
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Ontario, CA | Re: DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too If you sing up at best buy you get a 20 dollar gift card that should cover for your activation fee. | |
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DSL Without Local Service. Verizon Online now offers "Verizon Online DSL without local service" for Subscribers who "port" their local telephone service to a wireless or internet telephony (VoIP) voice provider, or who drop their Verizon voice service, or customers who want to subscribe only to Verizon Online DSL. Subscribers who change their underlying voice service will move to Verizon Online DSL without local service plans, and different terms and pricing from those that applied to their service before the change may apply.
The changes regarding Verizon Online DSL without local service are to Paragraph 2, Definition of Service, Paragraph 8.3 (Changes to your local voice telephony service), Paragraph 12, Term and Termination, and Paragraph 13.1.1, Pricing and Payment. | |
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DSL4Brains
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Portland, OR
| said by soothsayer15 :Verizon does offer Dry Loop and UNEP (Verizon DSL different Phone provider) DSL which can be order through over the phone. Where?
said by soothsayer15 :Never assume what someone (even me) types on this page as fact people! Read, Research, and think for yourself. Mmmkay. | |
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join:2002-04-27
Buffalo, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| anywhere in fBA, there are 5 CLEC's that allow Verizon to add their DSL to the line. And naked DSL is available anywhere in fBA providing you are able to bill to a credit card (no debit card) and you are serviced by a plain copper line. No overlay DSLAM's or Remote Terminals. Your line must be copper from the CO to your NID. Naked dsl is priced on average $8 a month higher. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| said by GOLFnSUN :A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well. The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), they better hope a lot more people sign up soon or the board will pull the plug on their Fios plans. It's not that high. $32,000 is not "per" customer but rather for the network. Initial network upgrades are expensive, as they add more customers they won't need to keep adding as much expensive equipment. | |
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| Re: DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too said by Tzale :said by GOLFnSUN :The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), It's not that high. $32,000 is not "per" customer but rather for the network. Initial network upgrades are expensive, as they add more customers they won't need to keep adding as much expensive equipment. I agree. And I believe I coverd that with this statement in my original post:
While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs),
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Tzale
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| Re: DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too said by GOLFnSUN :said by Tzale :said by GOLFnSUN :The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), It's not that high. $32,000 is not "per" customer but rather for the network. Initial network upgrades are expensive, as they add more customers they won't need to keep adding as much expensive equipment. I agree. And I believe I coverd that with this statement in my original post: While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), I sometimes like to quote people I agree with and further make the point by including it again. lol. | |
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Nightfall
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Grand Rapids, MI
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| said by GOLFnSUN :A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well. The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), they better hope a lot more people sign up soon or the board will pull the plug on their Fios plans. Cable providers are doing this as well. Sure, you may be able to get cable internet without paying for cable TV, but it will be more expensive. Others don't even allow you to get cable internet UNLESS you have cable TV.
Its a crock in my opinion. I would love to have DSL without paying for my phone line. However, I guess I will have to go with the lesser of two evils. Comcast in my area is REAL expensive. Their internet is just as good as SBC, so there is no comparison there.
Hopefully, in the future, we can get rid of the bundled pricing/service crap.
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| Re: DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too said by JFitch :Verizon does offer naked DSL, thus why they have the qualify by address field on that page. If you have questions just ask in the Verizon forum on DSLR, there are many there who have naked DSL through Verizon. ANd I doubt they will get the $14.95/mo special package.
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Pompton Plains, NJ | Good Job VOL It was a great move making the $15 tier, and its really working. | |
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West Boylston, MA | Re: Good Job VOL I agree, if only I could get this without having a phone. I use my home phone about 300 min a month and we also have cell phones with many minutes. I would love to have this plus sunrocket. | |
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Pompton Plains, NJ | Re: Good Job VOL Verizon does offer naked dsl, but only for the regular 29.95/month tier 3M/768K tier. | |
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| Re: Good Job VOL said by Nightfall :said by Rob A :Verizon does offer naked dsl, but only for the regular 29.95/month tier 3M/768K tier. Sounds like Comcast. Pay $43 with cable TV or pay $58 without. At that price, might as well get basic cable. $30 naked DSL for that price isn't bad though. Just too bad there has to be a higher price just because you don't want another service. Well the $30 is the standard price as well for POTS dsl for the 3Mbps tier as well. Verizon just doesn't offer a 768K tier for naked dsl. But the standard 3Mbps tier is for both pots and naked dsl.
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| DSL a la Carte from Verizon web site 01.23.2006 Our records indicate that you do not currently have local phone service with Verizon, however you can still order Verizon Online DSL without voice. You’ll get all the advantages of Verizon Online DSL without having Verizon local phone service.
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West Boylston, MA
| That would be real nice if I wasn't so damn far out (18k feet). So I would be paying $30 for the $15 service basically. I would love to have those speeds if I was close. Compared to Charter's $43 per month for 3/256k it's faster upload and more stable network would be great. | |
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Same Old Jets
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Pompton Plains, NJ | Re: Good Job VOL No, you'd be paying $30 for the regular $30 service.
The $15 service is 768K/128K
The $30 service is 3M/768K
For naked dsl, its just the second one. $30 for 3M/768K. | |
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join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA | Re: Good Job VOL I think that is what I said. Well anyway I checked the site and DSL without voice is $20 a month for 1 year service (768/128). Didn't know that was available, something new, right on Verizon! Something I might look into. | |
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Pompton Plains, NJ | Re: Good Job VOL I didn't know that either, good deal! And by the way, the $30 service for you at 18kft would be 1.5M/384K. | |
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join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA | Re: Good Job VOL Thanks, already tried that. at 18,900 feet i think I got a stable 600/100 signal, oh well. Maybe have to wait for FIOS after all. I keep check but good luck for Central Mass. | |
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Tzale
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Sweden
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| Re: Still in DSL Hell... said by ropeguru :Really nice for those that are in range. But for those of us that have had no chance in the past, still will never have a chance and it will be years before we get FIOS if at all. How stupid of you to say "if at all." All copper will be upgraded to fiber eventually. Think : MORE MONEY FOR VERIZON, LESS MAINTENANCE. FIOS WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE! CUSTOMER AND VERIZON! Don't forget FIOS has NO distance limits, they will wire EVERYONE, you just can't snap your fingers and expect to get FIOS. I live 15 miles from NYC and don't have FIOS, and 99% of NYC doesn't have FIOS yet either maybe even 100%.
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Grand Rapids, MI
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| Re: Still in DSL Hell... said by Tzale :said by ropeguru :Really nice for those that are in range. But for those of us that have had no chance in the past, still will never have a chance and it will be years before we get FIOS if at all. How stupid of you to say "if at all." All copper will be upgraded to fiber eventually. Think : MORE MONEY FOR VERIZON, LESS MAINTENANCE. FIOS WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE! CUSTOMER AND VERIZON! Don't forget FIOS has NO distance limits, they will wire EVERYONE, you just can't snap your fingers and expect to get FIOS. I live 15 miles from NYC and don't have FIOS, and 99% of NYC doesn't have FIOS yet either maybe even 100%. -Tzale I think the problem is the "if at all" statement. Sure, copper will be upgraded to Fiber eventually. Just with the high costs of Fiber, I wouldn't think the whole USA will have Fiber in the next 5-10 years. If I had to guess, I would say 40-50 years down the road, there will be fiber to everyone's home. It takes so much time and money to upgrade everyone. Going nationally will take many many years.
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| Re: Still in DSL Hell... Ok, so maybe I should ahve said "anytime in the next 5 years or more."
I never expected to have it over night and I really don't care if I get it at all. But at least in the areas that are going to be MANY years down the road, do SOMETHING to give us a choice.
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| said by Nightfall :said by Tzale :said by ropeguru :Really nice for those that are in range. But for those of us that have had no chance in the past, still will never have a chance and it will be years before we get FIOS if at all. How stupid of you to say "if at all." All copper will be upgraded to fiber eventually. Think : MORE MONEY FOR VERIZON, LESS MAINTENANCE. FIOS WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE! CUSTOMER AND VERIZON! Don't forget FIOS has NO distance limits, they will wire EVERYONE, you just can't snap your fingers and expect to get FIOS. I live 15 miles from NYC and don't have FIOS, and 99% of NYC doesn't have FIOS yet either maybe even 100%. -Tzale I think the problem is the "if at all" statement. Sure, copper will be upgraded to Fiber eventually. Just with the high costs of Fiber, I wouldn't think the whole USA will have Fiber in the next 5-10 years. If I had to guess, I would say 40-50 years down the road, there will be fiber to everyone's home. It takes so much time and money to upgrade everyone. Going nationally will take many many years. I would say the major majority of people (90%+) will have it within 10-15 years. Remember, we are talking about not only urban areas but also people miles from "civilization."
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join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
| THIS explains why install was SO PAINFUL Thanks very much for the initial news post!
Now I can understand why clients' Verizon DSL service dates got moved, delayed, then screwed up and took forever to get, FINALLY, squared away!!!
Boat loads of demand!!!
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join:2005-06-19
66308 | Fios should be built by MUNICIPALities. Not by private companies. They will only charge a very high rate to make back their money for investors with big margins.
And they will try to ban all competition like Munis. | |
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Vineland, NJ | Naked DSL I currently have Naked DSL from Verizon. I pay $29.95 a month for 3/768. Have had it for approximately 6 months. | |
| Lets Go
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Homer, NY | I also have "Naked DSL" (Dry loop) from Verizon. I am using it to post this message. 3/768 for $34.95/month and 768/128 for $19.95/month.
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| But that completely ignores what FIOS is... it's a plant. There won't be a copper plant in a few years... period... where there's FIOS, yet it's persistently treated by Verizon, the media, the press, and the financial world, as a "service". DSL is a "service"; FIOS internet is a "service"; POTS is a "service"; CTV is a "service; copper is a naked carrier medium, and so is fiber optics. The whole atmosphere since day one has had riders confused with horses, and vice versa... and that's a perfect metaphor. DSL is a rider. Copper is a horse. FIOS internet services is a rider. Fiber optical carrier medium is another horse...
By definition, it's not a service. It's carrier medium, just like copper... trying to justify it as though it were a service over a separate plant is just plain wrong. It IS the plant... it IS the medium... what should be said is that among people who still have a choice, because soon enough down the road, POTS will be "over FIOS", too, and you won't be asked "copper or fiber" at all as areas become fully fiberized, X number of people have 'adopted early' and switched to the new medium to take advantage of internet or TV 'services' already in deployment.
You don't justify a project like fiber to the premises by the subscription rate for early deployment internet and TV over it, you justify it in precisely the same way you would justify rebuilding the copper system, as an investment in infrastructure, not as an alternative to DSL... FIOS is not an internet service, it's a naked carrier medium. Period.
It's also a decade plus transition, and, moreover, of the dozens of analysts covering Verizon, the only one vocally expressing pessimism over FIOS is Lehman Brothers... I took the liberty of reading all of the research reports on Verizon I have access to, and the majority are at least moderately positive reports with ~$38.00 twelve month targets for the company and a slight bias towards "buy" recommendations and a strong bias against "sell" recommendations. It's hardly a boiling cauldron of discontent, by any means. I've made no secret of my belief that they're employing a very good strategy, beating everybody to the punch and shooting for the state of the art carrier medium now, before they have to do it in catch-up mode to support the level of overall service customers are going to be expecting in the not too distant future, if the telecoms intend to retain those customers.
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join:2001-07-11
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| Re: The eternal misconception persists forever... Great analysis. People just don't get it. People were skitish about color TV's, cell phones and mp3 music devices. Well, it's a good thing that Phillips, Cellular One and Apple saw the benefit.
The price quoted not only includes the carrier medium, but the switch build-out.
In addition, wait until Verizon hits the business sector with FIOS plans. They will be snatching many customers from business cable. Their T customers will probably opt for higher bandwidth and keep their pricing the same. Everyone wants more bandwidth!!
Verizon - keep up the good work!
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PGHammer
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Accokeek, MD
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| Re: The eternal misconception persists forever... Not just Philips, Cellular One (now Cingular Wireless) and Apple. Does *anyone* recall what visionary and company literally bet the company on a single technology? The man in question was David Sarnoff, the company was the Radio Corporation of America (RCA) subsidiary the National Broadcasting Company (NBC), and the technology was color television. Color television (especially *network color television*) started with Sarnoff, RCA, and NBC (specifically, three of NBC's O&O stations in New York City, Washington, DC, and Chicago, IL, along with affiliates in Baltimore, MD and Pittsburgh, PA). While Sarnoff and even RCA are gone, his legacy (the Sarnoff Research Center) and the company he originally bet (NBC, now owned by GE) are still alive and thriving.
On Verizon's buildout and the low-buck DSL pricetag: this offer is only being made where FIOS hasn't gotten to yet. (Largely, this is in the cities that are rather difficult to wire for FIOS, or areas with lots of MDUs.) Everywhere else, fiber optics and the FIOS horse will be rolling through as fast as they can pull the copper. Example: Verizon is literally *ringing* Washington, DC with FIOS deployments (the same applies with all the major cities in Verizon Country). Each core city will have the equivalent of an OC-432 SONET over fiber hyperbackbone (at minimum) surrounding it. This is backbone that Verizon will own outright. That is far more bandwidth than Verizon *plus* the cable HSI customers COMBINED could EVER possibly use. Will Verizon resell that bandwidth? Of *course* they will resell it. Who would buy it? Why, broadcasters and cable companies, of course. Comcast, in a strange ironic twist, is one of Verizon's largest short-haul bandwidth customers at the present, using Verizon dedicated trunking for short-haul carriage between headends and from production studios to headends (CSN-DC in Bethesda to Comcast Ritchie Road for example). Broadcasters are no longer relying on their antenna towers to get the signal to their cable retransmitters (especially in these days of *eyesore lawsuits*); instead, they are using dedicated or semi-dedicated short-haul trunking (mostly provided by Verizon). | |
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| As long as they eat time warner/AOL customers, I don't care.. time warner's pricing is still way out of line.. but maybe this will lead to other price cuts..
Verizon has still yet to accomplish the heavy lifting of the competition, whish is to say, the cable triple-play at $100 per month. Do that, and all hell will break loose in competition,
(contingent on video franchise rights, of course which are only 25% locked up where fios is) | |
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