Rupert Murdoch Takes on BroadbandAnd the bells, cable industry, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo & AOL ( old news - 11:56AM Monday Jan 30 2006) tags: competition · business · wirelessAs mentioned earlier this month, Rupert Murdoch is making a billion dollar wireless broadband play in concert with DirecTV, so he can compete with ISPs and portals alike. In what could be one of the industry's biggest moves in several years, it looks like DirecTV is likely building a Wimax network in concert with competitor Echostar, and not just creating a boring MVNO (virtual 3G operation). According to the Street, analysts predicts deals will soon be struck with tower operators. A sudden third triple-play satellite competitor with such deep pockets could shake up the competitive landscape. Once complete Murdoch would have the pipes (Wimax & DirecTV) and the content (Myspace, News corp., IGN, adware vendor Intermix). News Corp. recently acquired European DSL provider EasyNet (which owns more than 2,600 miles of fiber and 36 POPs across eight European countries), so he's making a similar play across the pond.
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1 edit |  That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true
And just think, you will be able to watch FoxNews and Bill O'Reilly anytime, anyplace while you are on the go.;)
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true quote:
and just think, you will be able to watch FoxNews and Bill O'Reilly anytime, anyplace while you are on the go.
I would wonder how much time planning has been spent by executives at News Corp. who see this as an opportunity to get "the message" out? | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true said by Karl Bode  : quote:
and just think, you will be able to watch FoxNews and Bill O'Reilly anytime, anyplace while you are on the go.
I would wonder how much time planning has been spent by executives at News Corp. who see this as an opportunity to get "the message" out? Probably little or no time at all. This venture into broadband is all about protecting their income streams as triple play marketing by their competitors threatens their profits. Remember, corporations are 1st and foremost about making money for the stockholders. Everything else is secondary.
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Gainesville, VA | Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Don’t forget about Hannity and Colmes!!!! | |
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2 edits | I find that highly unlikely considering News Corp's message is pro-industry, pro-capitalism, and serves stockholders. Granted it's probably a tertiary concern behind pure profit and creating a triple play for DirecTV, but I'd bet a limb that creating a marketing and political voice to aim at broadband users is a significant part of the planning. (pollution is minimal, soda and fast food isn't that bad for your kid, Your HMO loves you, etc.) | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Links to Rupert or News Corp saying such things would be helpful before accusing them of such.
Odd.. he's a very big liberal and a Democrapic Party contributor, so I fail to see how he can be accused of a conservative viewpoint.
As it pertains to Fox News and the New York Post (among others), he may be a liberal but he knows what sells. Obviously, he's going to let them go their own way in terms of viewpoint since it's worked so well thus far.
Yes, personally I prefer the formula of "we report you decide" to "we're CNN/NBC/CBS/ABC/NYT and we're right no matter what."
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Separate Fox News/NYPost from News Corp./Rupert Murdoch in the same manner that you would separate Ted Turner/Turner Broadcasting from CNN.
When you've done that, let me know what you find.
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2 edits | Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true said by rileyjam514 :Separate Fox News/NYPost from News Corp./Rupert Murdoch in the same manner that you would separate Ted Turner/Turner Broadcasting from CNN. When you've done that, let me know what you find. We have yet to see such outright falsifications on any other channels than FauxNews.
FauxNews iis the most primitive, cheapest level fearmongering crap. It doesn't work sh*t, it's a joke all around the wolrd, an example as the world's most biased "news" source. FauxNews operates and distorts *exactly* the same way as old Commie news sources did during my first 2x years in Mid-Eu, only that FauxNews is on the other end of the palette. Worthless piece of shit. I hope Murdoch, this abominable old worm, will rot in hell forever for this (thx God his son already showed him his middle finger when he chosen his family over that craptastic tabloid NY Post). | |
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Mr. Murdoch speaks so highly of you....
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1 edit | Really, Kamm, tell us how you really feel.
In all seriousness, consider your options here: CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/PMSNBC/NYT reporting the same bullshit or FoxNews.
Oh, and before you start with "outright falsifications" I should quite easily remind you of the fiasco that CBS went through when Dan "This Is My Honest Face" Rather decided to forge documents in order to prop up his bullshit theory about Bush and his time served in the National Guard
And let's not forget how each of the major stations just ate up every word Slick Willie had to say about how there wasn't anything wrong with starting a war in Eastern Europe to cover up (quite badly I might add) a minor indiscretion with an intern during election season.
So yes, I prefer FoxNews to Communist News Network, All Bullshit Central, Clinton Broadcasting Stations, Nazi Broadcasting Company, or the only old grey lady I think should've been euthanized long ago, the New York Times (which is just so crappy it doesn't deserve a witty nickname).
Bring it.
EDIT - Oh, and I noticed you didn't take me up on my original challenge - to separate Rupert & News Corp from FoxNews & NYPost the same way you would separate Ted Turner & Turner Broadcasting from CNN. I guess you can't, and I'll assume otherwise until I get an opposing response of some significance.
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true said by rileyjam514 :So yes, I prefer FoxNews to Communist News Network, All Bullshit Central, Clinton Broadcasting Stations, Nazi Broadcasting Company, or the only old grey lady I think should've been euthanized long ago, the New York Times (which is just so crappy it doesn't deserve a witty nickname). You forgot to mention Nationalized Pinko Radio.
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| Mocking them all is fine if you're getting your news from multiple objective sources you filter with a discerning eye (via say a portal).
But if you're both gobbling up Fox News nonsense while lecturing on fine journalism, it's kind of like an 87 year old doling out fashion tips. Cute, but irrelevant. | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true You just can't stop with the biased journalism.
Your bias is leaking all over the place!!! LEAKING!!!
I never said I only got my news from Fox News. I just don't trust the established news outlets, nor do I consider them objective.
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3 edits | Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Your leaking comment makes no sense (this is the comment section, not "journalism"), so I'll ignore it.quote:
I never said I only got my news from Fox News. I just don't trust the established news outlets, nor do I consider them objective
Fox News isn't established? Do you, or don't you believe they are an example of fine journalism? | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true I don't trust the "previously" established news outlets which I named in a previous post.
And yes, in retrospect that comment does not make sense considering this is a place established for opinions and yours count just as much as mine. Sorry, Karl.. it's been a long day already.
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| said by Karl Bode :But if you're both gobbling up Fox News nonsense while lecturing on fine journalism, it's kind of like an 87 year old doling out fashion tips. Cute, but irrelevant. Not really, considering that FOX News has been number 1 in the ratings for many years, even during the times when many cable systems did not carry it, shows that they know something about delivering the news that outlets like CNN, NBC, ABC, SeeBS (in light of their recent scandals, that title is entirely appropriate), PBS and NPR don't. As the old saying goes, you cannot argue with results.
Am I saying FOX News is perfect and that they are unbiased? Of course not, every news organization makes mistakes and its employees' slants can be seen in their work. But I think part of FOX News' being #1 is that they do not have some of the very serious credibility issues that some of the other networks face.
I know I personally won't believe a weather report or sports score listing in the New York Times because of their record of distorting the news (which dates back to Stalin's starvation of Ukranian Farmers in the 1930s). I know I won't be taking CNN very seriously because their own former news division head admitted to purposefully covering up Saddam Hussein's atrocities in order to maintain a news presence in Baghdad (yes, I know it was to protect their employees, but why have a news bureau if you're not going to report the news? I have no journalistic background, but is that not the point of that business? It's like a magician not "majishing"). How much other "dirty laundry" are they keeping under wraps so that they can maintain offices in Havana or Caracas?
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3 edits | Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true quote:
Not really, considering that FOX News has been number 1 in the ratings for many years, even during the times when many cable systems did not carry it, shows that they know something about delivering the news that outlets like CNN, NBC, ABC, SeeBS (in light of their recent scandals, that title is entirely appropriate), PBS and NPR don't. As the old saying goes, you cannot argue with results.
Sure you can. They took the shitty, half-assed speculative pseudo-journalism started by CNN, where they focus on ratings over intelligent investigative content, and simply perfected it. Weeks of Aruba missing girl coverage in a world where so much more happens.
Bland pro-industry "journalism" that doesn't upset sponsors. "Content" aimed at simplistic absolutist partisan thinkers who just want to be fed non-challenging information they agree with. News that's simply entertainment for the simple-minded, not investigative journalism. It's an epidemic across all media, and Fox is as bad as (if not worse than) any of them.
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Am I saying FOX News is perfect and that they are unbiased? Of course not, every news organization makes mistakes and its employees' slants can be seen in their work. But I think part of FOX News' being #1 is that they do not have some of the very serious credibility issues that some of the other networks face.
You're absolutely fooling yourself then. They don't run into "credibility issues" because they do even less investigative & controversial reporting than the big three. | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true said by Karl Bode :You're absolutely fooling yourself then. They don't run into "credibility issues" because they do even less investigative & controversial reporting than the big three. You can do plenty of investigative and controversial reporting and not have credibility issues. For example, say the fake story SeeBS ran about Bush's NG service had in fact been true and was verified by outside sources. Would that be investigative and controversial? Absolutely. Would there have been a credibility issue? Nope.
Heck, FOX broke the story about Bush having a DUI 2 days before the 2000 election. It was definitely controversial, but since it was true, there were no credibility issues whatsoever.
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Odd.. he's a very big liberal and a Democrapic Party contributor, so I fail to see how he can be accused of a conservative viewpoint.
He's not a "very big liberal", he's an opportunist. and Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Conservative message, I said pro-industry. | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true said by Karl Bode :He's not a "very big liberal", he's an opportunist. and Re-read what I wrote. I didn't say Conservative message, I said pro-industry. Maybe he thought that because everyone assumes that Rupert Murdoch is pure evil 
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Bullshit. He's playing on the cheapest fearmongering in order to get more money.
He's one of the most disgusting oligarchs - he really don't give a shitabout free speech or democracy. | |
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join:2000-03-02 | Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true And frankly if he's half the businessman the above-poster claims, using this new conduit/content delivery mechanism as a public relations and propaganda tool for his companies would be a high priority.... | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Spare us..... Fox is one of BBR's favorite whipping boys. Check out the Blue Room if you believe otherwise. Fox could win any and all Journalism awards, and the people here would still be talking trash about Fox. | |
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That doesn't really answer my question. | |
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true Really? Let's hear something bad about CNN.
Ted Turner used it for years to foist his beliefs and opinions upon the viewing public and everyone trusted it like there was something about cable news that made you trust it more than you would network news. Oh that's right! Network news was seen as the "establishment" and Teddy was freeing us from that establishment! Giving us a "fresh" opinion (which was really just a rehashing of the network news opinion) and giving it to us ALL THE TIME. Yet here comes competition in the form of Fox News, a company owned and allowed to run freely by Rupert Murdoch, out of the belief that injecting opinion into the news was exactly what was wrong with the news in the first place! And what do we say, we who claim to want more than one option, more than one choice for our internet access or phone service or entertainment? WE BASH IT INTO OBLIVION BECAUSE THE FACTS WE SEE ARE NOT WHAT WE WANT.
Let's face it: Clinton was a bald-faced liar, Bush isn't, the majority of Americans are truly concerned with their security and the prevention of another 9/11 and as such will support any effort to rid the world of terrorism in any form, and Dan "rileyjam's Special Friend" Rather is a bigger fibber than Clinton (if that's at all possible).
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| Re: That would be a huge Wimax rollout; if true said by rileyjam514 :Let's face it: Clinton was a bald-faced liar, Bush isn't, All politicians lie, so saying one is a liar and the other isn't is ridiculous.
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| Bring it On..... Now, I'm not much on corporate bigwigs such as Rupert.....but I'll have to give him props on something like this. Heck, if it weren't for DTV many of us out there wouldn't even have a chance of getting more than 3-4 channels on the ol tube. So, I'll wish him best of luck! | |
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| Re: Bring it On..... I'll take Rupert using PRIVATE CAPITAL to deploy NEW COMPETITIVE INFRASTRUCTURE over GOVERNMENT REGULATION and the COURTS limiting competition to protect the INCUMBENTS any day.
I cast my vote for the deployment of disruptive technologies that keep everyone on their toes and promote a competitive marketplace.
I want to be able to honestly ask the following question, "Cable, Telco, Wireless, etc. I wonder who has the best deal today?"
Fox News found a successful niche in the 24 hours news-n-babble market, get over it, it's good business.
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