  chakey Premium join:2004-06-14 Gladstone, NJ clubs: | Wow And you thought the Nano scratched easily? Wait until the first release of this one! I wonder what kind of case can you get for this one? | |
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| Re: Wow I own a Newton... by pure accident.
It really is amazing how ahead of its time it really was... other than size, the most significant difference between it and my QTEK 9100 is the Newton's lack of wireless connectivity (which really didn't exist when it came out). | |
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join:2004-12-29 Brooklyn, NY | WOW they finally did something good! or is it just another Photoshop picture... I wonder if this thing will even last a minute on playback. I estimate a $600-800 price tag if it's 60-80GB. | |
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join:2003-08-20 South Lyon, MI clubs: | Re: Wow If its real the price tag will not be that high. It will be around the price of the ipod video right now. | |
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join:2005-01-04 Mahopac, NY
| »www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CS···ing=UTF8
The Creative Zen Vision:M is a much better value than the ipod video. Too bad its only 30g, but thats more than fine for most people.
Better screen, more on screen colors, more features, divx playback, no need for itunes.
Ipod caters to people who just dont care about specs and shopping around.
BUT, there is now an open source firmware that works on ipod, and allows so much more than what apple gives you (OGG,FLAC,gapless playback,no need for itunes) etc. With it, the ipod is actually interesting now.
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| Re: What's the big deal? IMO the iPod is a very high-quality product, from the packaging all the way to the features. Have you tried a 5G? Apple's engineers have done a fantastic job with it, but I will agree with you that they aren't worth $300; I just don't use it enough to warrant the cost. Luckily mine was the product of about 1/3 gift certificate money.
I'm within a month of my 5G purchase, and I'm strongly considering taking it back so that when these release in April, I can get one of them.  | |
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| Re: What's the big deal? I love my video Ipod also. It does DVDs too (using Videora Converter + DVDdecrypter). And with 30 GB, storage isn't a problem. Of course, battery life means you won't get through Braveheart on a single charge.  It also sucks that they keep improving on them every year. But, eBay + Xmas giftcards usually means upgrading costs little or nothing.  | |
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join:2005-01-28 Scarsdale, NY
| The original was amazing for it's time. I recently replaced my 1g iPod with a video iPod. I agree that it isn't that much better than the competition nowadays, but it is still a great product.
I bought a PSP planning on using it for it's movies and music capabilities, along with some games. However, it really isn't worth it. It's too big, memory sticks are expensive, and they only go up to 2gb in size. The PSP really isn't any good for anything but games. | |
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| Re: What's the big deal? I use the nano and really like it, my time on the treadmill goes much faster now so I look at it as an investment in health 
I give Apple credit though, Ipod is such a big name that no one wants to be seen with an off brand, it makes you look cheap by settling for something less then an Ipod. | |
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join:2002-07-02 7th Layer
| Re: What's the big deal? said by ADawas :
I give Apple credit though, IPod is such a big name that no one wants to be seen with an off brand, it makes you look cheap by settling for something less then an IPod. Hey not a bad point ..but does that mean we are cheap that prefer to use Mozilla Firefox instead of Micro$oft IE?? ..Food for thought :p -- "Give the mouse a cookie...and the motherfucker will want a glass of milk....." | |
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| said by ADawas :
I give Apple credit though, Ipod is such a big name that no one wants to be seen with an off brand, it makes you look cheap by settling for something less then an Ipod. That's a very valid point!
Apple knows marketing. | |
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join:2005-01-31 Sarasota, FL
| said by ADawas :
I give Apple credit though, Ipod is such a big name that no one wants to be seen with an off brand, it makes you look cheap by settling for something less then an Ipod.
I think the iPod is more of a fad, and that's why everyone must have one. I'm not trying to say it's a bad product, it's a very good MP3 player, but the lack of certain features and a higher price prove that it's a fad rather then the superior product.
I own an iAudio X5L and I can say for the same price of the iPod I got a lot better features and audio quality. The only thing the iPod has an upper had on it is the video playback features, but that was only a luxury rather then a necessity to me  | |
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join:2002-02-07 Yonkers, NY
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| HA! Cheap? Settling? You are one of the easily gullible hoard. I own (by choice) a Rio Karma. It has higher fidelity sound, a 5-band, fully adjustable parametric equalizer, (for those of you that don't understand what a parametric equalizer is, it not only allows you to adjust the bias of the 5 bands, but it also allows you to choose the 5 bands you want to apply equalization to) it cross fades between tracks (that feature alone makes it better than any IPud - gapless playback!), it came with an excellent dock which has stereo RCAs out for easy, standard hookup to any stereo and it's software is easy to use and allows easy loading and offloading of tracks on any PC without concern for any type of DRM. Oh, did I mention that it plays MP3, OGG, APE, FLAC, WAV and WMA? 10+ hour lithium-ion battery (as my mileage indicates). Fits perfectly in your hand and allows for volume and track selection much easier and with less concentration than an IPud. I recently upgraded mine to 30gb and I wouldn't trade it for an IPud if you paid me.
Settling?
»gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html »www.extrememhz.com/karma-p1.shtml »www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=750
Get a grip on your simple, mass-marketed mind sir.
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| Re: What's the big deal? First of all, the Karma is not ugly... but clearly your friend values aesthetics over all else. Wow, looks are really important in a music player. So does that mean that if apple comes out with the prettiest looking piece of tin sounded worthless plastic ever, that I should buy it? who cares about the way it looks? it's a f%*$ing music player, it outperforms the iPud, it sounds better and it's less expensive. Funny thing is that the (adult) people who work at my office who have iPuds like my Rio better because I have no issues transferring tunes to/from it without having to worry about syncing with iPudTunes. They also like the sound better, and the menu system and the crossfade between tracks. With my ugly Karma, I can go from track to track in my car without so much as a glance or second thought. Do that with an iPud... oh, wait, you can't... wow, but it looks great. -- Experience one of the most beautiful women on earth at PetraCentral! (yes, I work there!) | |
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join:2005-01-28 Scarsdale, NY | Re: What's the big deal? Except it costs almost as much as a PSP... It's way too expensive. | |
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| said by Anonymous :I've tried several models of iPod and it's nothing special.  I think if you do a good job on promoting something it does not have to be a quality product to be success. Like AOL, SBC DSL, the Windows operating system, etc. -- Just because a word has an S in it doesn't mean it needs an apostrophe too. | |
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| Re: What's the big deal? said by GilbertMark :said by Anonymous :I've tried several models of iPod and it's nothing special.  I think if you do a good job on promoting something it does not have to be a quality product to be success. Like AOL, SBC DSL, the Windows operating system, etc. Pretty much  -- I did not give you tool points. I'm too cheap to do that.  | |
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| touch screen? I'm not worried about the screen scratching easily. I found that to be a simple reality when dealing with any iPod .. they all seem to scratch easily, the nano is no exception.
I'm more worried about the structural integrity of the screen .. what exactly will support it? Especially the center of the screen? Ive seen some pretty damaged Nintendo DS'  -- The first anime convention in San Francisco. | |
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| Scratches I am truly amazed at all of the scratching issues that people are having with their iPods. I have a number of iPods, from 1G through 5G. The early versions (my 1G and 2G), never had a case to protect them at all. I have used these iPods a lot. They have minor scratches, but still look very nice. My newer iPods, I left the plastic protector that the iPod was wrapped in, in-place over just the screen. Not one scratch. I wonder what people are doing to their iPods.
Oh well, I will buy this new iPod when it is released. -- Lean to the left. Lean to the right. Repeat.Now that is wobbling | |
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| Re: Scratches I got a black nano (scratch heaven) and I keep it in the included white soft case 24/7. I use it mainly in the car (with the raidio transmitor) and the ONLY time I take it out is to glance at the screen then it gets slid right back in. Never been dropped, never been handled by people with long fingernails.
And yet, COVERED IN SCRATCHES. You know when I first got it and it had ZERO scratches...I put it directly into the included white case and when I pulled it out, I already had 3 scratches. And no, no foreign debris got stuck in there with it...the included soft case started the scratching process right away.
Its rediculous. I hope they have some new super anti-scratch coating prepared for when (if) this new one comes out. | |
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join:2004-02-13 Chicago, IL | their using them | |
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| I'll buy one! If these truly are the next generation of iPod, I will consider picking one up. That being said, I will most likely only buy this if (1) the material used has been modified so as to not scratch quite as easily as the 5G, or (2) a third-party releases an affordable and convenient scratch-prevention product. At this point, I'm glad I went with the iPod nano rather than the 5G, as the 5G was clearly by design not Apple's true iPod "video." If Apple were to include some sort of software that could transcode videos to a format the iPod can play without taking a huge amount of time. -- Juice Receiver this WEEK in TECH Charter - Sucks | |
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| Great news! I just saved on my car insurance! Not. I don't follow the rumor sites. They are about as accurate as a butter knife.
I supposed Apple has fixed the feature that the touch wheel now works with those of use that wear gloves in the winter?
Ok, argue that one should not have an ipod in a cold climate.
(a friend has a 7.5" touch screen in his honda, and it is wired to a macmini, in his glovebox. very cool) | |
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join:2004-01-26 Huntington, WV | Re: Great news! Actually, a touch screen works on pressure, not resistance (like a trackpad or the current iPod design). So if the new iPod is indeed touchscreen it should work fine with gloves. In theory at least. | |
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| I'll pass again I think I will hold on to my iRiver.
Built like a tank, sounds great, no special file transfer software, user replaceable battery and so on and so on.
I just can't buy into the must have for the moment toy hype. -- Fx Pacifica Branch, Tb Patrocles Branch, Fx Portable, Tb Portable All nightly builds. | |
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join:2004-07-24 Charlotte, NC | I'll upgrade when they come out with a 100GB iPod to replace my 60GB Photo. | |
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join:2004-09-10 Moorestown, NJ | Re: I'll upgrade ehh, another one already, i just upgraded from the 4th gen to the video, im not doing that again, i love the video its great. | |
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join:2002-02-23
| Re: I'll upgrade the only, and I mean only reason (as sad as this sounds) that I bought a new ipod video was the almost seemless integration with my new car.
I currently have a 1G Dell DJ, and while it does the job, I cannot change a song while driving, and even with their wired remote control, it is just too clumsy to operate.
I can put this in my glove box 365 if I choose, and only take it out to sync my podcasts.
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join:2004-07-24 Charlotte, NC | Re: I'll upgrade Yeah. I have the Alpine iPod adapter for my car and truck. It is fantastic. | |
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join:2003-04-02 Bonne Terre, MO | LOL nice try apple Besides the insane, who would want a Ipod now with the hundreds of other cheaper/better players on the market. | |
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 |  gateguy Premium join:2001-02-12 Reisterstown, MD | Re: LOL nice try apple I do.
Now when can I start getting my meds. | |
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join:2004-01-04 Houston, TX
| But Zen Vizion is better Well, I am not saying that iPod is bad but it is just not for me. I prefer Creative Zen Vision (30Gb) which can play MP3,WMA, WMA with Digital Rights Management and WAV.
Also I can download videos and music from any online store (thanks god I am not stuck with one only choice!) It also supports DIVX, XVID, AVI, MPEG-1/2/4-SP,WMV...
yes it is bigger than ipod but so what? | |
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 |  pathfinda Premium join:2002-09-11 Chicago, IL | Re: But Zen Vizion is better .. i love my Creative Zen Vision!!!!
Rips of Prison Break, Star Wars and OZ and the entire Roots library on one device!?!
I LOVE IT!!!! | |
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join:2003-02-02 | How can apple... file a patent on touch screen when so many devices out there use this allready. | |
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join:2001-09-16 Little Falls, NJ | Re: How can apple... I want an edible ipod. | |
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| Solving the ipod scratching If they would make the face out of glass rather than plasic, there would be no scratching, because only dimond can scratch glass. Sure, it could break, and it could add weight, but its negligable as long as the Ipod doesnt look like complete crap. Besides, what do they do with the HUGE profit they get off each ipod? They sure dont make quality/durability a high priority. Make it water proof while ur at it. Just make the charging/headphone jack water proof. I should be on the design team. | |
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