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TelecomJunky
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Kansas City, MO
| Re: This is good news It should be noted that although TW and Comcast are in the KC area, they do not compete with each other. And a deal has already been made to trade their respective assets in KC and Dallas to give Comcast all of the KC area by years end.
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TelecomJunky
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Kansas City, MO | Re: This is good news As all of us in Olathe, Raytown, and Blue Springs are already all to aware off 
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Olathe, KS
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO | Re: This is good news The NKC FTTS project? No, it's only for the small city of North Kansas City, not to be confused with Kansas City North.
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| PurpleNurple
join:2001-03-21
Bonner Springs, KS | Good for NKC. This is a great option to have. I only wish WyCo would catch up. Our best option is RoadRunner. | |
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neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | nice It's nice to collect revenue from Casino to do many things. That being progressive thinking. | |
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| awesome that's more like it. a fracking gigabit, and frack all who stand in the way. I like that attitude.
fiber to people... wow what an idea. I remember hearing we'd all have it a few years ago... guess cable nodes were as close as that came... then again, I think that was a flyer from the old cable co, who was bought out by cox.
and using casino revenues... how quaint. nice turnaround for all those dollars that got plopped into gambling oblivion. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Real Challenge Is paying for the bandwidth that people will use. If they have to turn to any BellCo then they will probably overcharge to starve the network, make the city beg to take it over, and the network will happily take the fiber and underdeploy it to the customers.
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
 ·Comcast
| No details on houses passed; costs; hookups; etc Basically all the press release discusses is that a company was hired to manage the network. That the city has a dual-ring fiber net around the city and that they plan a rollout to businesses and homes in Spring, 2006.
Nothing about how many houses or businesses are passed or how many are hooked up or how much fiber is run down streets to homes. Also no info about costs to have service, etc.
It could be awhile before many users are online except for the core business district.
I did find this info in the RFP issued Dec,2005.
»www.homespro.com/documents/docs/···City.pdf
The proposed FTTS network project has the following characteristics and shall make use of
assumptions in the planning and cost of the FTTS project.
• Estimated 1,400 total residential homes will be passed in NKC.
• Estimated 950 total businesses will be passed in NKC.
• Estimated 23 miles of underground plant.
• Estimated 2 commercial users with redundant fiber optic connections.
Provide a minimum initial bandwidth of 45 Mbps on or before April 1, 2006. Bandwidth of at least 250 Mbps is required by June 1, 2006.(That is total bandwidth for the whole footprint, NOT TO EACH HOUSE) The city has 2800 housing units. Fiber is planned for only 1400 of them (and 800 of the 1400 are in a new housing development. Greenfields redlining anyone??)
The press release talks about gigabit to the home, but the plans are for purchase of intenet bandwidth much less than that starting at a single DS3(45 mbps). I hope there aren't many P2P users - they'll eat that DS3 quickly.
Links supplying facts: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kans···Missouri
»www.nkc.org/
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bentman78
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Arlington, VA
| Re: No details on houses passed; costs; hookups; etc still, at 45 mbs, it's probably better than what the commercial folks are offering. I applaud them for North KC for this. Using the tax money for something worthwhile. Even with the log wait for deployment, I don't see any difference between that and people live in Philadelphia not getting broadband access because Verizon won't go there. Besides, private companies are motivated by profits and less likely to deploy broadband in places where they won't make money. The city Government isn't out to turn profit... | |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Re: No details on houses passed; costs; hookups; etc Keep in mind to that NKC is in a small area across the river from KC and surrounded by KC on all sides. This left NKC in a small under served pocket. It took longer for SBC to bring DSL there because of the need for a remote terminal. You still can't get SDSL in NKC. And Time Warner on recently made a deployment effort to businesses in NKC as part of their PR during the lawsuit days.
If NKC wanted to meet the needs of new businesses, they had to do something.
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Being in the community, I can assure you it is very small. North Kansas City is primarily a Business community with very few residence. Most of the residences are apartment complexes and small homes that sit in the heart of the city. NKC is a great little community, but come 5:00 pm it's pretty much a ghost town.
However, you wanted prices, here they are:
5 MBPS - $64.95
10 - 84.95
30 - 194.95
100 - 575.95
Keep in mind these are symmetric connections, meaning you get 5 mbps upload!
The fiber project's goal is to attract new businesses to the community. With these kinds of speeds and prices, it will do just that. Because of the small size of the residential community in NKC, p2p will be of little issue.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: No details on houses passed; costs; hookups; etc said by TelecomJunky  :5 MBPS - $64.95 10 - 84.95 30 - 194.95 100 - 575.95 Blocked ports?, restrictive TOS's? bandwidth caps? traffic shaping?
got any info on any of those?
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Re: No details on houses passed; costs; hookups; etc Nope, those have not been hammered out. The rates I quoted are also those proposed by the city and are not yet official. Though I suspect they will come in right around those or possibly less.
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join:2002-11-19
Chicago, IL | What is available in the community now? Cable internet? DSL? | |
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| kellenw
join:2003-11-20
Kansas City, MO
| This is a pretty small area (NKC). I go through it everyday on my commute from Gladstone area to Downtown KC. It doesn't take a ton to light up the whole city. They have TONS of Casino tax money coming in to support and expand it.
Also, this is NOT just intended for data. They are planning voice and tv over this also.
My company is seriously considering moving operations to NKC due to this improvement. Also, less traffic, lower rent and better utilities.
This will draw a LOT of businesses to this area. It's a great move for the city. | |
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goodgoodgood
| All that and.. All that, and nowhere near the gulf coast. 
Yummy gigabit, maybe Verizon will get off their duff and upgrade the ont's and speed packages. | |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | Re: All that and.. requests for improvement by users with FIOS are hereby ignored.
So sayeth the spider. | |
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pog
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI | Speeds... Okay, so they may not have massive speeds to the internet yet but my gawd! ...will they allow full speed traffic within their network? I can think of a ton of things I'd love to do with such a setup... | |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Re: Speeds... Right, initially they will only have 45 MBPS, so what. They only have about 3000 total potential customers. The uptake will be slow as businesses exit existing contracts on T1s and make the switch.
Your DSL provider is likely overselling his bandwidth 100:1. At 45 mpbs, NKC could signup nearly 1/3rd of their potential market on the 5 mpbs package before needing to upgrade. And because there is already a gigabit ring in place, it's only a matter of upgrading the backbone bandwidth to achieve higher speeds. Nothing like this exists in this country, not FIOS, not DSL2, not project lightspeed, and not cable.
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pog
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
 ·Hawaiian Telcom
| Re: Speeds... Oh yes, I understand the over-sell/average-usage strategy... what I was wondering really is what speeds they will allow between customers inside the local service area.
IOW, if two neighbors both are connected to this gigabit ring, their connection to the outside internet will obviously be limited to whatever piece of the backbone they're allotted. However, will those two neighbors be able to connect to each other at gigabit speeds?
The implications of unfettered full gigabit local bandwidth are staggering for branch offices of businesses, local telecommuters, P2P'ers and gamers, and so much more. | |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Re: Speeds... True. And the implications for business to locate on the ring and provide services to other businesses on the ring at maximum bandwidth of 1 gig is staggering. However, based on all the data I have seen the prices and data rates will be as listed above, meaning your access to the ring will be limited to those speeds, but that is just my assumption.
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