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Autumn launch seems likely
(old news - 10:08AM Sunday Mar 12 2006)
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GamesIndustry.biz indicates that information from a number of independent sources is suggesting that Sony may announce further details of its plans for PlayStation 3 next week in Tokyo, with the revised launch schedule for the console being at the top of the agenda. News of a planned Sony Computer Entertainment press conference on March 15th was leaked by Koei boss Kiyoshi Komatsu, who told press at an unrelated conference in Tokyo about the existence of the event and speculated that "some details about the PS3 might be announced there." According to Mydrivers, a Chinese technology website, COMPEQ will begin building printed circuit boards for PlayStation 3 in June or July - implying that the assembly of the console won't begin until mid-summer at the earliest, and making an autumn launch seem all the more likely.

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doppler

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And how much is this going to cost

Do I have to empty my wallet?
scrawnyb

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Re: And how much is this going to cost

not if you decide to sell a few body parts on the black market - otherwise most likely
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Re: And how much is this going to cost

It won't cost you or anyone else anything; if you don't wast your money. How about you stop making Bill, the Worlds wealthiest man, even more rich and very happy that you spend more money. Get a life, stop living in your wasted child hood.

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Re: And how much is this going to cost

said by Waste of more money :

Get a life, stop living in your wasted child hood.
I hope you make that statement understanding the exquisite irony inherent in it if you spend significant amounts of time watching TV and movies (both passive activities that require no thought and discourage interaction with others short of the 3 minutes of commercials every fifteen minutes).
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said by Waste of more money :

It won't cost you or anyone else anything; if you don't wast your money. How about you stop making Bill, the Worlds wealthiest man, even more rich and very happy that you spend more money. Get a life, stop living in your wasted child hood.
Maybe im missing something.... Bill gates owns playstation?

Or maybe, your just fucking confused about what your talking about asshat.
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said by Waste of more money :

It won't cost you or anyone else anything; if you don't wast your money. How about you stop making Bill, the Worlds wealthiest man, even more rich and very happy that you spend more money. Get a life, stop living in your wasted child hood.
Wow, what a hater. Did your Daddy not hug you enough? Maybe he did more than hug...
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said by doppler See Profile :

Do I have to empty my wallet?
There's probably no way that Sony would be able to sell it for more than what the Xbox 360 will be going for at that point. If the console costs, say $900 and there are relatively few games for it at the outset, then what would you buy? By the time the PS3 comes out, most of the kinks in the Xbox 360 will be ironed out and there will be plenty of titles, so a high price is going to kill Sony in a crowded market.
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doppler

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Re: And how much is this going to cost

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by doppler See Profile :

Do I have to empty my wallet?
There's probably no way that Sony would be able to sell it for more than what the Xbox 360 will be going for at that point. If the console costs, say $900 and there are relatively few games for it at the outset, then what would you buy? By the time the PS3 comes out, most of the kinks in the Xbox 360 will be ironed out and there will be plenty of titles, so a high price is going to kill Sony in a crowded market.
My point exactly. Sony will have a hard time selling the box at what ever price they decide. Unless they come up with a ps/ps1/ps2 emulator. They have lost the game market!
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Re: And how much is this going to cost

Lost the game market ?? Forget about it guys

You are underestimating the Asian(Japanese in particular)fanboys market.The 360 is selling below the expectations there because 95 % of the console gamers are waiting for the PS3.I doubt that the price will be a big factor for them when it come out.

Maybe in North America the PS3 will lose ground for the reasons you guys mentionned but globally i can't see the PS3 losing the battle.

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Re: And how much is this going to cost

Count me in as one waiting for PS3. Actually, when it comes out, I am going to wait a few months for the bugs to get worked out (if any) and then sell my PS2 on eBay.
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Re: And how much is this going to cost

said by fatmanskinny See Profile :

Count me in as one waiting for PS3. Actually, when it comes out, I am going to wait a few months for the bugs to get worked out (if any) and then sell my PS2 on eBay.
But still, would you be willing to pay $900 or so for a console? That price is insane! Maybe if the price is $400 or less then it might be worth it.

I have this rule... when the price of a toy rivals a rent or car payment, then its probably too expensive
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Techman21

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Re: And how much is this going to cost

Its not going to cost 900 dollars. jeez. Be realistic. Every console comes out selling them at a loss. My guess is that the console will cost more than the XBox 360 due to the fact that blue ray simply costs more to produce. Given that the Xbox 360 currently doesn't even use next gen optical drive technologies. The only reason that Xbox 360 came out so early is that they wanted a jump start on Sony otherwise they'd still be waiting for the HD drives to come out, thus making the 360 ship around the same time as this PS3 creating more competition here in the states. But MS never wants to play on a level field. They always like to screw over the customer/consumer. And most of the droves of people, including friends of mine got screwed. Because within a year or so the optical drives in the 360 will start to ship with HD drives installed already. And what about those who already own a 360? Well they get to buy and add on. What a joke.

Don't think for a minute I'm a PS3 fanboy. I'm completely disgusted with how Sony has handled their PR for the PS3. The cost itself is a deterrent to me. There is no way they can sell this thing at under 300. Which to me is more than I would want to spend. I was willing to spend 199 for my PS2 at the time, but now that games are 60 bucks a pop there is no excuse to rise the cost of the machine. The only reason the PS3 won't turn into a Dreamcast is that Sony isn't going bankrupt like Sega did. Which is one of the main reasons that Dreamcast died.

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Re: And how much is this going to cost

I think it will be priced around $599. Anything more and it will kill them. I bet M$ drops the 360 price another $50 and releases the Halo 3 (or 2.5 or whatever they call it).

Sony can do like M$ and eat some of the cost, where it should make back some on the titles and its network gaming.

Honestly, Japan will get these first. Then the US market.

I like the black version. But will they still have the silly controllers?

I'm more for the Nintendo system. I still love my GC. I just got the 360 and not impressed with limited titles and prices.
Still, once I get my copy of Blazing Angels...;)
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It plays PSONE and PS2 games right outta the box, so there'll be no need for an emulator.

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You made alot of sense like a THINKING PERSON WOULD, but I was totally THROWN OFF on your Rove/Rumsfeld 2008!? Alot, of Politicians are Disagreeable on Policies,but I will take SEX O'ver WAR ANYDAY ,And KETCHUP OVER OIL TOO, And A WAR HERO over a WAR ZERO B.T.W. I will buy a PS3 If all the HYPE is TRUE, B,Cuz It would HAVE to be THAT GOOD TO BEAT XBOX GRAPHICS!!!
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said by doppler See Profile :

Do I have to empty my wallet?
... and your brain too

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Blu Ray Is Driving and Delaying the PS3

I agree with what the Inquirer writes: »www.theinquirer.net/?article=30108

SONY CEO, Howard Stringer, has confirmed that the PS3 which was supposed to be in the shops soon, will not now be around until the end of the year. Stringer said the delay is due to a hold-up with chips crucial to the success of the console's Blu-ray functions. He said Sony will roll out the PS3 by the end of the year, in time for the Yule-tide binge. Stringer wants the PS3 to be a vehicle for Blu-ray discs as well as videogames. This suggests the PS3's success may not as important to Sony as getting Blu-Ray off the ground. It seems the cunning plan is to make the PS3 the killer platform that will knock out HD-DVD and install Blu-ray as the dominant video standard.
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Re: Blu Ray Is Driving and Delaying the PS3

That's so stupid.. 99% of the games for the PS3 could ship on regular dvd's.
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Re: Blu Ray Is Driving and Delaying the PS3

Vaporware 2006...

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said by NOCMan See Profile :

That's so stupid.. 99% of the games for the PS3 could ship on regular dvd's.
Sony dont care about the gamer right now. they are making the ps3 to sell to fanboys.
Dont you get it? sony wants to pocket billions of dollars from blue ray. If sony gets the standard on blue ray they will be so rich. they are already trying to stay out of bankruptcy. They will probably charge $40 to any company that wants to make a blue ray device. They already want to charge 40$ for 1 blank blueray disk. That means TDK or someone else who wants to make the blank disk will have to charge you 60$ to make a profit. screw blue ray. I am glad sony has to restructure. About time they get what they deserve for screwing over real gamers.

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Re: Blu Ray Is Driving and Delaying the PS3

Spoken like a true xbox fanboy.

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said by xTestamentx :

Spoken like a true xbox fanboy.
I don't own and XBox, XBox360 or PS2, but I think barbndav is exactly right.
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I think your wrong blu-ray is an important product for Sony and will be in the PS3. Sony needs Blu-ray to kill off competing formats for HDTV products.

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said by Corehhi See Profile :

I think your wrong blu-ray is an important product for Sony and will be in the PS3. Sony needs Blu-ray to kill off competing formats for HDTV products.
BS. Sony needs constant income and that's Blu-Ray royalties, not PS3.

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LOL. Sony your not up against the Dreamcast anymore.

This Blu-Ray drive is really going to cost them and you know Microsoft is ready for a price war --- is Sony?
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this is beta vs. vhs all over again... but in this case, who cares, both standards will be good, it's just a matter of compatibility and uniformity... personally, I won't have a problem buying either if they are cheap enough...

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Re: Blu Ray Is Driving and Delaying the PS3

You know the drill, who ever gets more products out there will make more money off the licensing. Units will start off expensive then they'll end up being $100 in a few years maybe sooner.

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Sony is turning me away..

I've been waiting, patiently. When asked, "Did you get an XBOX360" I politely reply with, waiting for PS3.

When I heard it would be delayed until 2007, I began to think of possibly purchasing a 360 to step up my gaming experience. I decided to wait and see what happens.

Now hearing that the PS3 could come out this year but still no word on pricing makes me wonder if I should bother anymore. I've been very loyal to the Sony brand; and would like it to continue HOWEVER i'm a little unsure if I should continue to wait. I guess i'll find out on March 15th.

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Re: Sony is turning me away..

Yeah, I think we should all pay Microsoft more money instead. Then they can dominate gaming on PC and XBOX easily. They already make money from gamers buying PC's with Windows XP, so why not make them richer instead. I can see the drama with this "BlueRay" junk, but still, MS dominated gaming because they have $$$ and vendors to back them.

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said by phattieg See Profile :

Yeah, I think we should all pay Microsoft more money instead. Then they can dominate gaming on PC and XBOX easily. They already make money from gamers buying PC's with Windows XP, so why not make them richer instead. I can see the drama with this "BlueRay" junk, but still, MS dominated gaming because they have $$$ and vendors to back them.
So you're saying it's better to feed a loser, lying, isgusting sneaky rootkit-installer @ssholle Sony?
Really convincing...

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said by phattieg See Profile :

Yeah, I think we should all pay Microsoft more money instead. Then they can dominate gaming on PC and XBOX easily. They already make money from gamers buying PC's with Windows XP, so why not make them richer instead. I can see the drama with this "BlueRay" junk, but still, MS dominated gaming because they have $$$ and vendors to back them.
No one forced anyone to pay anything. In fact there are free OS' you can use to run your software.

MS is dominating not because of $$$, which BTW $ony has much of as well --- but how about because M$ did some good stuff --- like online gaming and a platform with a HDD? In fact I hear the PS3 will not have a standard HDD? How are they going to do the MMOs they promised? Mail you a new DVD-ROM everytime a patch comes out? LOL!

I bet the Blu-Ray is now going to be seperate and the PS3 will just have standard DVD.
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said by TechieZero See Profile :

In fact I hear the PS3 will not have a standard HDD? How are they going to do the MMOs they promised? ...

...I bet the Blu-Ray is now going to be seperate and the PS3 will just have standard DVD.
And I heard it will come with a hard drive and wireless controllers standard. People can speculate all they want on what's going to be on this system, but in the end it's all speculation until the boxes are shipped.

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Think of it this way. Do you want Sony to rush out an inferior product or do you want it done right? Just wait for the announcement this week and see what they have to say. I would rather wait a long while if the end result is killer.

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Fuck Sony...

...and their constant ridiculous lying about PS3. Everybody knew and knows it won't be shipping before the Summer, rather end of the year yet Sony kept and keeps lying about a March-April release date. So pathetic... Blu-Ray is late, PS3 is late... everything Sony touches will be fucked up...
OTOH I boycott Sony for the rootkit, so I don't care at all.
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Re: Fuck Sony...

I predicted last year that it wouldn't be out until 2007 and I stand by that prediction.

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An April launch is highly unlikely...

But Sony can (and most likely will) release this console before this years ends... And I see no reason to doubt that this system will cost any more than $500. Hell, at that time you wouldn't be able to find a Blu-Ray player anywhere near that price.

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Re: An April launch is highly unlikely...

said by the_buz See Profile :

But Sony can (and most likely will) release this console before this years ends... And I see no reason to doubt that this system will cost any more than $500. Hell, at that time you wouldn't be able to find a Blu-Ray player anywhere near that price.
1. IF they release before Christmas it will be in Japan and NOT North America.
2. You won't be able to find a PS3 at any price for the first 6 months over here (just like the PS2).

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ps3 will play ps1 & ps2 games, right?

I've been waiting for the ps3 for sometime now. I'm not someone who plays games as much as a hard core gammer, but when I do... I like all the power as if I was.

I just decided I could use an upgrade (from ps1) and was going to buy ps2, but heard that ps3 will be coming out soon. Why the wait? Well when I bought ps1, about 2 weeks after they told everyone ps2 was coming. lol

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Re: ps3 will play ps1 & ps2 games, right?

Backwards compatibility shouldn't be a problem. Why kill off your former games? Can't hurt to keep those going.

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According to Sony, it won't be fully compatible, rather around 50% of the PS2 games (they didn't even mention PS1 games) - another good reason to tell Sony to fuck off...

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price

If it's as expensive as I think it's going to be, I won't be touching it, I'll wait for Revolution.

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Can you imagine the multiple game endings?

I heard Blue Ray is going to be sick! Imagine playing Residental Evil 6 for 3 months or more before you beat it. Good googamooga.
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Re: Can you imagine the multiple game endings?

said by fatmanskinny See Profile :

I heard Blue Ray is going to be sick! Imagine playing Residental Evil 6 for 3 months or more before you beat it. Good googamooga.
You willing to pay $200 for all that content? DVD isn't limiting the length of that type of game in any real way, cost/time to develop is.

What you're likely to get with BlueRay is the standard 10 hours of game play, a bunch of "extras" that no one cares about, demos for other games as filler, and a different set of anti-piracy features that no one's cracked yet.
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Re: Can you imagine the multiple game endings?

Extra space is just to fill it with "uber special high def graphics" rather then fill it with Gameplay. Kind of like how Windows has evolved over the years

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said by fatmanskinny See Profile :

I heard Blue Ray is going to be sick! Imagine playing Residental Evil 6 for 3 months or more before you beat it. Good googamooga.
You willing to pay $200 for all that content? DVD isn't limiting the length of that type of game in any real way, cost/time to develop is.

What you're likely to get with BlueRay is the standard 10 hours of game play, a bunch of "extras" that no one cares about, demos for other games as filler, and a different set of anti-piracy features that no one's cracked yet.
YUP! Most games don't even fill HALF of a standard DVD!
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It's all about the library, of both games and movies

I can understand the delay in the release of the PS3. But, to be honest, I wonder if it is doomed to suffer the same fate as the PSP??

It is all about the library; of both games and movies. Sony is pushed for the PS3, like the Xbox 360, to be one of the centerpieces of your home entertainment system. so, the library has to be there. The PSP is suffering because consumers are shelling out big money on UMD movies (and, why would they, ripping DVDs is easy enough) and the game library is lacking, almost laughable. Thank goodness its hackable...

Sony isn't a Microsoft; they aren't willing to lose on the sale of each console, so i would expect to shell out a ton of money (> $600) and Sony needs NOT to make the same MS mistake: backward compatibility.
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Re: It's all about the library, of both games and movies

Ive read in a number of articles (the sources of which naturally escape me right now, lol) that Sony wont be able to sell the console for less than $500. But they will rationalize this huge price by the fact that not only are you purchasing a new game console, but your purchasing an upgrade for your DVD home entertainment system. They are pushing this console more as an all inclusive entertainment bundle. Dont forget that the first generation Blu Ray DVD players cost around $500 by themselves....so the price is relative.

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said by vicsAstud See Profile :

But they will rationalize this huge price by the fact that not only are you purchasing a new game console, but your purchasing an upgrade for your DVD home entertainment system. They are pushing this console more as an all inclusive entertainment bundle. Dont forget that the first generation Blu Ray DVD players cost around $500 by themselves....so the price is relative.
Compared to HDDVD; Blu Rays price, manufacturing difficulties (HDDVD doesn't require much retooling for DVD production facilities), and lack of industry support leaves it dead in the water.

Add to this the issues inherent in the Cell Processor because of it's complexity (edit:Not the chip itself but the compiler to effectively use it) and I imagine Sony is realizing that PS3 is looking to be a very fast, very expensive, X-box 360 without live support.
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said by pathfinda See Profile :

Sony isn't a Microsoft; they aren't willing to lose on the sale of each console, so i would expect to shell out a ton of money (> $600) and Sony needs NOT to make the same MS mistake: backward compatibility.
A) considering it's cost Sony $900 to make each PS3 they are going to lose money on each one initially.

B) everything I have heard from the start is that PS3 will play both PS1 and PS2 games. So why is this even be brought up?

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Leaked???

News of a planned Sony Computer Entertainment press conference on March 15th was leaked by Koei boss Kiyoshi Komatsu, who told press at an unrelated conference in Tokyo about the existence of the event and speculated that "some details about the PS3 might be announced there."
Leaked??? More like "He was invited to tattle on the company later because they knew he would snitch".

Sorry, I just found that funny, hehe :-D

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Oh Damn it, it better be a true gamers gaming! console!

Sooner/Cheaper the better but...

Whatever the price is...
Whenever it is released..

I just really do hope that it truely will be a great! (better than others) gaming console and hope it will have as much or more success than how PS2 is/was.

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ZOMG!

ZOMG!

Who cares about consoles?
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Whats the holdup??

What is the holdup? I'm sure Sony wanted to get an autopsy of the Xbox 360 before they got too far along in production of the PS3. However, if Sony is able to 1 up (pun intended) the 360 in performance, it won't be by that much. There are PlayStation fans, then there are XBox fans. The XBox fans have got their mits on a 360 and the PlayStation fans are stuck playing a PS2 for a few more months. I don't think a huge chunk of the console market is waiting on a PS3 release. True gamers have very limited attention spans and are eager to get their hands on the latest and greatest. They are also broke. So they may have bought the 360 because they just couldn't wait on a "next gen" console. That means they probably won't be in the market for a new console by the time the PS3 is released because they already blew their small savings on a 360. The money to be had is not with the consoles, its with the games. Kinda like giving away razors and charging $10 for razor blades. So I think Sony could be hurting around launch time because Microsoft will be knee deep in game sales when Sony is trying to get their console sold. I'm going to go play my 360 now.
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we make some xmas cash

so we all know to reserve our ps3 so we can ebay it for the holidays and triple our money.

MisterMarcus

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Price of PS3...Mark the date of my claim on your calendars.

$699.99 out the door. No frills, nothing extra fancy with that price.

Mark it down. There's NO way this thing is launching at a $400 or even $500 price point. Especially if it has things like DVR capabilities like Sony claims it does.

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Re: Price of PS3...Mark the date of my claim on your calendars.

You can drop the DVR capability off that list for the no frills version. Hard drive will be an extra option just like the 360.

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Funny post I saw in another forum:

"Was Sony bought out by Infinium Labs?"

drakkkar

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This could really change things

Well for me this could really change things.

I was waiting on the PS3 to get a new HD TV (likely a Sony), and to jump into Next-Gen at the same time.

Since it looks like it might be a while I think I might just get a 360 to play now. Wait on TV prices to come down some (as long as I get the HD before football season).

Once I already have a 360 the PS3 will have to be really AMAZING in order for me to buy it. When the choice was 360 now or PS3 in a few months (at I was guessing $500) I chose PS3. But once I already have a 360... Well that will be a much harder sell.

If Sony loses the Blue-Ray battle after all they have put into it, they could be crippled (not just for this division, but overall). The longer they wait, and the higher thier price the more they risk losing that battle, not just the console battle.

If this doesn't go well for them, I will lose a lot of confidence in thier overall performance.
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thephoenix30

join:2005-04-30
Deerfield Beach, FL

A few overlooked facts

1. Yes, you will be able to play all your old games: PSX and PS2.

2. We all saw not more then a day after the release of the Xbox360, it stripped down and dismantled. What we all noticed is that it used your standard ATA6 laptop hard drive. That ment just like the first one you can upgrade it and hack it quite easily. Sony shall avoid this with the use of EEPROM, this shall allow the use of the same 20GB of space that the Xbox uses. This means it will be extremely hard to hack it since you can't just flash it and install what you wish, but it towers over MS in knowing that you will never have a scratched hard drive platter. It's the beauty of no moving parts.

3. We all know the blu-ray drive is estimated at $1,000 USD, so even if sony is selling the PS3 for $500, they are losing well more then just the $500 on blu-ray. You forget to take into account all the other expense there are to make the system itself. Merrill Lynch is projecting losses of 1.18 billion in year 1, 730 million in year 2 and 457 million in year 3. By comparison, Sony's profits in the past three years has been about 1.86 billion. If the PS3 doesn't start turning a serious profit in year 4, Sony's bank accounts could start drying up. So yes sony in banking on the hope that gamers and fanboys alike shall go out and get the PS3.

4. There was mention of Xbox 360 eventually selling the system with the HD-Drive built in. Gates has already said that they won't be doing this. Now considering I don't trust gates as far as I can throw him, this is probably true. It just means they can completely focus on any issue with the current model and have another department make an External drive. And there is a perfect reason for this. Heating Issues. Our friends over at the Hard[OCP] did the same thing they did for the Original xbox and Water Cooled it. Here is the link for the article »console.hardocp.com/article.html···b25zb2xl
Right now you could already cook eggs on the 360 after an hour of gaming, why make it more likely to heat up with a more powerful drive in there. Besides we all know microsoft better then that. They will just create a new bundle with the external drive for a higher price.

Remember until the working model is in your local video games store we can't confirm anything under the hood of this console. Everything is speculation.
Matrix_Zero

join:2003-12-27
River Grove, IL

Re: A few overlooked facts

Granted, i don't like microsoft all that much, and I currently don't own or even want a xbox 360.

There's something fishy about what sony's trying to accomplish. When you keep lying publically about release dates of things it kinda hurts your company. They'll scratch their head and call it "estimations," and push it off as something they couldn't predict.

If what we know now is true, and they're pushing for an autumn release, its for one reason, and its the same reason everyone's complaining about. Price.

Everyone knows that technology has a certain decay or turn over rate. Its just a given by todays standards, buy something new, its already out dated. This 900 and 1k figure people are throwing around is if it was pushed NOW. Logically if they let it sit another half a year, the price is just going to plummet dramatically. Not to mention every other little part in their system.

Yea, sony's still going to take a hit, but by draggin their feet like their doin right now, its saving them money.

Biggest thing that worriest me here is the whole blue ray thing.

Seems to me Sony is trying to hit the HD market, prolly more then the video game market. If they really wanted both markets, they could use some old tech from their ps2, and design a swappabled Dvd player and release the Blue ray later in the year.

They won't do it for 2 reasons, if not more.

1. If they allow options, they have less control over their product.

2. Its not cost effective. Look at it this way, Either way sony plays it, there's going to be a limited amount of consoles. With the blue ray, not only are gamers and fanboys on board, now we have every dvd enthuisiast. Economics 101 guys, big demand, limited amount of product, price jumps. Everyone saw what was happening with the 360's on release. Same thing, think worse. No blue ray at launch, but later put in as an upgrade, we still have 360 on release day, just not as bad as the previous mentioned scenario.
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