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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Well... its a start now how about giving TWO megs of UPLOAD bandwidth.
download is so over-impressed. providers need to start addressing upload BW to bring their subs into the twentyfirst century.
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CoxCable4
banned from most servers for cheating
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | don't forget cox offers 15/2mbps in northern va area too. they figure if you can afford $1,300,000 homes, you can afford 15 megs | |
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andrewe77
Gonads And Strife
join:2000-09-17
Blue Springs, MO
clubs: | Re: I was told about the increased speeds I'm in Grain Valley. Switch over to SBC DSL. It's much, much better than the crappy Comcast service I was getting. | |
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I am slowly starting to hate you.
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join:2000-10-07
Kansas City, MO | Re: I was told about the increased speeds I can't. I tried to get DSL when I first moved here, and was not able to get it. I am stuck with Comcast. | |
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Network Security Engineer
join:2000-07-04
Lees Summit, MO
| Re: I was told about the increased speeds Try to get DSL again, Blue Springs is 99% SBC. I live on the street where Sprint is on one side and SBC is on the other and I can get DSL from either or Comcast. By The way, My speeds have been fine, just a few outages over the pst few weeks. But my Cable also comes down 470 and down Colbern from Independence instead of coming down 40 or I-70, so I could be on a completely different node than you are. | |
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I am slowly starting to hate you.
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join:2000-10-07
Kansas City, MO | Re: I was told about the increased speeds as recently as Jan. 2006, I could not get DSL from ATT/SBC...However, I can get dial up! | |
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join:2004-04-10
Rockford, IL
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| Well... if Fios were in more areas and people compared the pricing and switched over, Brian would be running scared. He is betting that Fios will spread across the country slowly. And he knows that he has the ability to go and match those speeds quickly if he needs to. Everyone knows that Comcast is upgrading equipment and not standing still.
So, it is now a waiting game... | |
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join:2001-12-21
Westwood, MA
| Re: Well... Well the new Hyundai's offer BMW luxury for a lot less than a BMW. While it is not a BMW they are still very nice.
The issue is that comcast is going to have trouble with network issues when the speed is increased to 16mpbs as they are overloaded in some areas at the current speeds. | |
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join:2003-08-25
| Re: Well... You obviously haven't looked at the details of either car for very long if you think the new Hyundais come remotely close to the quality inside or under the hood a BMW. Take a test drive and listen to all the rattles if you don't believe me. The similarity is in their commercials only. | |
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join:2005-08-09
Livermore, CA
| Comcast nodes will not overload networks. They dont put to many customers on a node unless it can handel it. With comcasts launch of its own version of VoIP the network department said the current node configuration can handel up to 132Mbits per customer, with no slow down and no upgrades to their nodes. | |
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join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | what a arrogant fvcker If they wanted to stop fios then they will have 16/1 in all of the comcast markets b4 Verizon or ATT get to those markets | |
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join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA | Re: what a arrogant fvcker Comcrap should have 16/2 to outpace the FIOS speeds of 15/2. 16/1 will barely get near that 16Mb speed.
He is a jackov, but what CEO isn't these days?  | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: what a arrogant fvcker said by envoid  :Comcrap should have 16/2 to outpace the FIOS speeds of 15/2. 16/1 will barely get near that 16Mb speed. He is a jackov, but what CEO isn't these days? A meg upload is plenty to ACK 16mbps. look at all those OOL'ers on 30mbps with their upload capped.
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join:2005-09-21
Bethel Park, PA | Re: what a arrogant fvcker Um actually I live slightly south of Pittsburgh and have the Adelphia 16/2 package and I ALWAYS HAVE 2 mbit of upload 24x7. The 16 mbit fluxes from 5 mbit down to 15 mbit down. | |
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Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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March 23rd, @11:41AM
| Yes... and it is going to be this BMW attitude that is going to get them in the end. As long as they think they are above the competition the telco's are slowing going to eat them alive. it may take a bunch of years but it will happen unless they get off of their high horse real quick. The infrastructure the Telco's have is massively bigger then anything cable has. While much of it is ancient copper with advances in Technology there is still a lot that can be squeezed out of it.
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join:2002-03-23
Eatontown, NJ
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| Re: Yes... The problem is not infrastructure, it is perception among executives and investors. Verizon might be doing technologically great things, but the moment investors believe they will not make money the whole show will be off.
So this is exactly what the Comcast CEO is doing, he is seeding fear into investors, he's trying to create a perception that cable is the winning game. Considering the profit margins of cable companies, the content aspect of their business and the addicted consumer base, he is very believable. Many are criticizing Verizon for the massive spending on the FIOS push and pointing to SBC for what Verizon should be concentrating on.
As a consumer and a techie, I am partial to Verizon (can't believe that but things change). | |
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join:2001-02-22
Kennesaw, GA | Re: Yes... I THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPTION TO DELETE OUR POST.
This saves bandwidth. But then again mod likes to delete post themselves cause it gives them authority over us!!!!!!! | |
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join:2002-10-02
New York, NY
| What a moron?? A BMW?? Yeah right! Competition is good for us and will keep the big wigs honest and competitive. Does anyone really think there would have been speed upgrades had Verizon not stepped in? I am not praising Verizon either buy hey, either way, we benefit. Higher speeds and lower prices are what we need! | |
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| What? What? After the gov' of Indiana signs the bill approving FIOS TV franchises to be streamlined within 45 days?!
Too little too late. Hahaha,
but, wait now, FIOS isn't exactly GIVING away FIOS tv, they still are sniffing that crack cocaine called PHONE tariff number 9! | |
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join:2005-01-27
Levittown, PA | Re: What? Atleast when I troll, I'm registered!
(damn my paypal..I need to give $10) | |
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join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON | Re: What? unregistered people rock. don't hate on them. | |
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andrewe77
Gonads And Strife
join:2000-09-17
Blue Springs, MO
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| I won't go back I switched from Comcast to SBC DSL in my area mostly because of serious packet loss and latency problems in the evenings. I can't see how bumping saturated nodes up to 16 Mbps is going to help.
I'll never go back unless I have to. I like paying 1/2 as much for a much more stable service even if my download speeds are lower. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA
| Re: I won't go back It will not help. I live in Seattle....South/West Seattle to be exact. I had Comcast a few times. I never ever noticed this slow down during certain times of day. Years ago when it was AT&T Broadband changing to Comcast I noticed the slow down but not lately. I always got over the stated cap speeds no matter when I was signed on. What is interesting is that I know a few people who don't live that far away from me....maybe 5-10 miles and they always complain on how slow Comcast gets during the late afternoon. Now, I thought Comcast fixed that particular problem for people. I guess not. If they haven't then like you said, going to this new tier will NOT help at all. | |
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA
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March 23rd, @12:00PM
| This BMW/Hyundai Thing....... Comcast is so damn arrogant sometimes. They automatically assume that the exact services provided by Comcast is exactly what everyone wants and in turn are only to happy to pay the premium for their service. (In other words Comcast automatically assumed everyone wants a BMW and is willing to pay for it when some people are completely happy with Hyundai) That thinking is wrong. Comcast needs to wake up and realize that this is not the case. A LOT of people go with a provider soley based on cost. Sorry to say Comcast is loosing that particular battle. Not everyone wants the highest speeds since most people will NOT need that kind of speed yet. If this continues on its current track Comcast is at some point going to push out a lot of customers because of the cost. What is their statement going to be then when customers go to other providers because of cheaper prices.
I am glad to see Verizon FIOS giving Comcast some competition. I wish Comcast would compete like this with all telcos (I live in Qwest territory). Competition only helps the consumer.
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Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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| Re: This BMW/Hyundai Thing....... said by Steve B : Not everyone wants the highest speeds since most people will NOT need that kind of speed yet. If this continues on its current track Comcast is at some point going to push out a lot of customers because of the cost. What is their statement going to be then when customers go to other providers because of cheaper prices. Comcast won't drop prices until they actually see an economic benefit to do so. And so far, defections to low cost DSL hasn't been big enough to make them do that. When that does occur, you will see price drops, but not before.
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join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA
| Re: This BMW/Hyundai Thing....... I wouldn't say an economic benefit but more like an economic threat and you're right. When that threat occurs, prices will drop. However, what I said still has merit because Comcast continually raises prices on their services. Granted, more video than net lately. However, Comcast will start raising the net prices too. They will continue this track doing over the top price increases on a yearly basis and that will start pushing people away from them because of cost. | |
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join:2003-05-28
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March 23rd, @12:08PM
| said by Steve B : A LOT of people go with a provider soley based on cost. Yes I"ll stick with Comcast. Cheaper than a FIOS 15/2 connection.
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join:2002-07-03
Wylie, TX | Comcast upgrade in Texas???????? Interesting to see that Texas wasnt included for this upgrade since we have FIOS here... | |
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Klownicle
join:2005-03-15
Sarasota, FL | Sweeettt! Sarasota, FL Hawt.... Can't belive my city was mentioned as a upgradeable area. Ive never really had a problem with comcast and if they did this to me 16/1 id be happy as a pig in shit. | |
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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March 23rd, @04:30PM
| It just proves the point time and time again...... ...competition will bring about better service, not a monopoly.
The ONLY reason some places are seeing this upgrade is because FIOS is in town and notice how Comcast is pushing that 1Mbps speed difference.
Sorry, but this shows that Comcast is reactionary and not pro-active. | |
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Ark
join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI | And I just bought a Hyundai Also interesting is that from what I can tell from google finance, BMW's yearly revenue is ~10B compared to Hyundai's ~55B. | |
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join:2000-08-10
San Luis Obispo, CA
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| Re: And I just bought a Hyundai said by Ark :Also interesting is that from what I can tell from google finance, BMW's yearly revenue is ~10B compared to Hyundai's ~55B. Hyundai is not just a car company, they make a LOT of products. | |
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join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI | Re: And I just bought a Hyundai Verizon does more than install FIOS too... (?) | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Verona, PA
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March 24th, @12:18AM
| I'm fairly certain that 55B is close if not the exact number for just Hyundai Motor Corporation; it's even higher if you throw in Kia and the other subsidiaries.
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join:2004-06-29
| Nuts! This is totally nuts. No one even needs 15Mbps. The only reason you would (that I can think of) is for a high-powered server/network of servers or downloading illegally. The other end has to support the speed too. I am very happy with 3Mb down that I have. I would be fine with 1.5Mb too.
I am a network administrator, and I understand that many folks like to do multimedia. But, a lot of folks don't even need 512Kbps. That would only be for bursts. | |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
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March 23rd, @12:38PM
| $52.95 for 16/1? $52.95 for 16/1? hee hee hee... I pay exactly (and I stress, exactly) $54.95/mo for 30/5 w/FIOS. There are no surcharges, taxes, line charges, mother-in-law penalties, or state ass fund contributions (yet)... nothing. I'll bet with taxes and charges that the comcast $52.95 is more like $55~56.
Let me tell you how amazing FIOS service has been since I got it, almost a year ago now... That 30/5 to the internet is always available (general internet conditions notwithstanding). There is no congested local loop to deal with. The latency of my connection is the best available at this time... I get average pings of between 3~12ms to game servers. If you think for a second that comcast, or cable in general can match any of that at this time, you are sadly mistaken. FIOS has been a pleasure ever since I drop kicked Optimum Online, where I had my upload capped twice (which is a trip since they wanted to speak with my daddy to fix it). My speeds were down to an average of 5/1 towards the end and it was never better than 7/1 for the 3 to 4 years I had it (yes, that's on a very tweaked system). Plus, there was the added bonus of many unexplained service outages and massive multi-week slowdowns that Cablevision outright denied. I'm not paying for that!!! In the time I've had FIOS, I've seen approximately 10 minutes of total downtime, in two late night occurrences. Both times, a call to Verizon FIOS customer service was handled with speed and professionalism and they had no problems telling me that work was being done in my area, and that service would return shortly, which it did. In contrast, I spent hours on the phone with OOL customer service, between excessive hold times and dealing with the primates they have working there.
If consistent high speed, low latency and outright superior performance are important to you, then FIOS is the way to go if you are lucky enough to have it in your area. And no, I am not affiliated with Verizon in any way. I'm just a happy FIOS customer, which is the norm (check the reviews yourself! »User reviews - Verizon FIOS )
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| Re: $52.95 for 16/1? ""I get average pings of between 3~12ms to game servers.If you think for a second that comcast, or cable in general can match any of that at this time, you are sadly mistaken.""
I have Comcast in Delawhere, and my ping time to most of the game servers I use range from 14 to 17ms. Never have a problem with them. I may be sad, but not mistaken. | |
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Obliteration
Premium
join:2005-09-18
Somewhere
| Re: $52.95 for 16/1? said by MrDumass :
""I get average pings of between 3~12ms to game servers.If you think for a second that comcast, or cable in general can match any of that at this time, you are sadly mistaken.""
I have Comcast in Delawhere, and my ping time to most of the game servers I use range from 14 to 17ms. Never have a problem with them. I may be sad, but not mistaken.
WTF servers are you pinging? Your neighbors server next door? I run ~25ms pings to INSTATE servers and around ~50-75 to California servers. | |
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join:2002-05-29
West Jordan, UT | 1Mbps upload fuck that
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xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Pangea | Re: $52.95 for 16/1? fuckin a man you took the words right out of my mouth.
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join:2000-10-14
Farmington, MI | WOW! So you could hit the cap in like 2 hours! at that rate | |
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join:2002-03-29
Ogden, UT
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JoeyDee
Premium
join:2004-07-23
Las Vegas, NV
·Comcast
| Everytime Roberts Opens His Mouth... ...I feel bad about doing business with his company. He makes me feel like he has me trapped while he has the best available service. He forgets customers can walk when someone comes along with like service that appreciates your business.
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Rob A
Jets 19 - Steelers 16
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| Less upload, more money 15/2 Vs. 16/1 and 44.95 Vs. 52.95
Fios has that covered easily and I doubt a cable line will actually give you 16Mbps, the download will probably be the same or less than fios.
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| North Florida COX CABLE upgrade Cox in the north Florida area recently upgraded their subscribers now offering a 9mbit/1mbit for their premium plan. I am a 'preferred' customer and was very suprised to hear that my 4mbit/512kbit up was NOT UPGRADED to higher speeds. In addition, now the bandwith congestion is disgusting. After 8PM I can't download past 150kb/sec! This never was a problem before the bandwith increase, I was hauling about 450kb/sec easy before it. Im no network engineer but im assuming that the increase in bandwith to everyone is perhaps creating a bottleneck for others. I wish Cox would practice what they preach, and actually give me the bandwith I pay for.
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