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Na, what'll happen, since they found they can't sue those under 18, is the following:
-- packaging on CD's will become like software, with lengthy copyright license terms on the outside detailing what you can, and cannot, do with the copyrighted material contained on the CD therein;
-- opening of the package will constitute acceptance of the terms of the license;
-- since this acceptance is only enforcable on adults, stores will be prohibited from selling CD's to anyone under 18;
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Na, what'll happen, since they found they can't sue those under 18, is the following: -- packaging on CD's will become like software, with lengthy copyright license terms on the outside detailing what you can, and cannot, do with the copyrighted material contained on the CD therein; -- opening of the package will constitute acceptance of the terms of the license; -- since this acceptance is only enforcable on adults, stores will be prohibited from selling CD's to anyone under 18; -- Oops! Someone in the music companies realizes that almost all of their existing sales are to people under 18; "what will we do now"? Very simple. Pay more dollars to congress and have the laws changed that anyone regardless of age can be sued. No more protection for pre-18 year olds!
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| Re: great said by n2jtx :said by PDXPLT :[I fully expect the RIAA to sue a dead person relatively soon.
Na, what'll happen, since they found they can't sue those under 18, is the following: -- packaging on CD's will become like software, with lengthy copyright license terms on the outside detailing what you can, and cannot, do with the copyrighted material contained on the CD therein; -- opening of the package will constitute acceptance of the terms of the license; -- since this acceptance is only enforcable on adults, stores will be prohibited from selling CD's to anyone under 18; -- Oops! Someone in the music companies realizes that almost all of their existing sales are to people under 18; "what will we do now"? Very simple. Pay more dollars to congress and have the laws changed that anyone regardless of age can be sued. No more protection for pre-18 year olds! Na, rumour has it they are going to stop production of CD's and start selling Vinyl Records again  | |
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| Re: great said by ifarrell :Na, rumour has it they are going to stop production of CD's and start selling Vinyl Records again Hell i miss the warmer sound of vinal my self. There are some highly specialized sound cards out there that add this warmness. Theres a paticular mother board that uses a cathode tube to add a warmness to the sound. Ive heard one in use and it is quite nice make most high end sound cards sound like total crap in comparison.
Personaly im suprised the record execs havent started creating vinal records to make some cash. There are still a large number of the 30+ crowd my self included who would buy records. Its funny but you can buy serious stereo equipment equiped with things like turntables and even 8 track tape decks (corse they also have cd player tape deck and cd burner and are many 1000s of dolors and are mostly aimed at people looking to make masters or remasterign of new albums.)
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Yeow!
Cool though. My brother rebuilt a Mcintosh tube amp and the thing would crank and blow any speakers we had. Three HUGE transformers...I painted skulls on them for him. Too bad he sold it as now they make speakers thak can handle them.
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| Re: great said by Maxo :said by ifarrell :Na, rumour has it they are going to stop production of CD's and start selling Vinyl Records again They do still sell vinyl records. I have some new ones in my stash. And many of my Vinyl Records I listen to in mp3 format on my computer. There is no way to stop the digitization of sound. Physically impossible, short of physically removing the recording device from everybody. I wouldn't put it past them.
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The article provides NO proof they don't own a computer. Did the "reporter" actually see no computer?
It could be a previous tenant, but sounds more like the ISP gave the wrong info. However, if the ISP did, they did DURING the time the family lived there based upon the IP address (if some little ISP, Duh!). Either the ISP gave the wrong address or the little 13 year old is playing the dumb act or the parents destroyed evidence (the computer). | |
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I stopped downloading MP3's also.
RIAA would have noticed if enough of us had done the same.
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| Re: How'd they get her info? said by BIGMIKE :said by Rob :If they are suing her and she doesn't own a computer, how did they get her information? google That doesn't make any sense at all.
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| Re: How'd they get her info? FOIA doesn't apply, most likely the family has some sort of set top box for cable tv; each box is assigned an IP via DHCP. Chances are the box ntpd synchs to another time server than the cmts ntpd there by allowing a gap in the logs of little joey downloading, and these people plugging in the set top box, or rebooting it. Grabbing Little Joey's ip since his parents just took the cable modem out of his room for his dad to use to download the latest GGW Spring Break endeavor.
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| said by Rob :If they are suing her and she doesn't own a computer, how did they get her information? Most likely, bad info from an ISP responsible for the offending IP address.
Possible scenario: Previous owner of house downloads or uploads music and has an account with ISP. New owner moves in and establishes a TV video account, but no internet access. ISP gets subpoena. Checks IP address and matches it with an account address from logs at time of offense. Address given to RIAA. Lawsuit undertaken. Sloppy work all around by ISP and RIAA lawyers.
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Apple Computer Inc: RECORD profits, erhmm I mean profits from the RIAA's records, er recordings.. hehehe.
I'm shocked they can't find someone reasonable, like an OIL COMPANY board of directors family, or a gas-station gouging owner's family. Sheesh, ya know, go where the money really is... you can't pick on the little people 25/8/369!!! | |
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| Re: riaa found dead on street in a drive-by. details at 11 said by inothernews :
I'm shocked they can't find someone reasonable, like an OIL COMPANY board of directors family, or a gas-station gouging owner's family. Sheesh, ya know, go where the money really is... you can't pick on the little people 25/8/369!!!
They have better lawyers on retainer, not worth it to go after the rich folk...yet.
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THe RIAA is retarted
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P2P ENCOURAGES SALES MOST OF THE TIME. Dumb-asses. If I try out a song at say 128Kbps bit rate and I feel the songs are good I would probably buy the higher quality version sooner or later. Also P2P spreads the artists popularity.
Secondly Microsoft Windows XP OS and others have been pirated since the day or before they even come out. However Microsoft hasn't sued many over this(maybe 5 people who really bootlegged it) and I have yet to see them go bankrupt. Oh wait you say they are the RICHEST company in the WORLD? Oh what a surprise. How do these RIAA idiots think Billy Gates even got into the computer business? BY GETTING HIS NAME OUT. P2P essentially does just that, it gets the artists name out to people that might have never heard of him before or thought of listening to that music.
Essentially the only thing the RIAA is doing is seeming like an evil corporation and shooting themselves in the foot. I wonder who manages the RIAA decisions because he is one big idiot on the way he handles matters.
My statement here was acknowledge by the richest man in the world who stated the same thing. I wonder who is right on making money. Billy Gates who acknowledges what I just said and makes BILLIONS or the RIAA who is seeming like a malicious dog hunting people. | |
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| Re: The RIAA can suck my balls.... said by Obliteration :. P2P ENCOURAGES SALES MOST OF THE TIME. Dumb-asses. If I try out a song at say 128Kbps bit rate and I feel the songs are good I would probably buy the higher quality version sooner or later. Also P2P spreads the artists popularity. not relly if u get WMA
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By the way, Mike, it sounds like P2P downloading is your hobby.
"Fight the Power! Committ felonies to stick it to the man!"
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1 edit | Of course! It's a pre-emptive strike! From the Rockmart article:
However, in a public statement defending the litigation, the RIAA says its efforts have been effective in dissuading illegal activity.
“The industry’s anti-piracy efforts have deterred a sizeable number of would-be illegal downloaders,” the RIAA statement reads. “Although a significant online problem undoubtedly persists, particularly with hard-core, frequent peer-to-peer users, absent action by the industry, the illegal down-loading world would be exponentially worse.” Someone in the Walls family was thinking of getting a computer to pirate music! The RIAA has secretly implemented their own justice system, after watching The Minority Report. We're about a quarter of the way through their movie.
Either that, or the RIAA "alleges that Carma Walls, of 117 Morgan St., Rockmart, has infringed on copyrights for recorded music..." in a previous life. Get it? Carma? Sorry I couldn't resist! | |
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| Re: Of course! It's a pre-emptive strike! I'm sure that pulling random 16 year olds out of their bedrooms, hauling them to the center of town and beating the snot out of them because they might someday download a song would have a deterrent effect too. Nevermind that "guilty" prerequisite.
And the poster above is correct...you don't have to have an actual case to file a lawsuit. If the defendant just ignores the summons, a default judgment is entered and a whole new can of whoopass opens onto your life. That's the primary problem with the RIAA's tactics. They can screw with people--whether they have any hard evidence or not--without consequence in cases like this.
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1 edit | lol really though, who the hell gives a DAMN if the info was wrong, and who came up with said bad info...with all the millions of dollars the RIAA throws up for laywers to attack 13 year olds AND dead people, you'd think these idiots would done some of their OWN homework before suing people without PC's...i say F the apologys and apologists, and chalk another one up for stupid bigbussiness practices...and the mexicans say you guys are all lazy! hah! | |
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| Re: lol said by FiL :you'd think these idiots would done some of their OWN homework before suing people without PC's You make the mistake of assuming that there is any quality control in the legal profession. If any other private business purposefully made these sorts of mistakes, they would be sued into oblivion!
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| I just thought of something what if they did this on purpose. The whole reason they do these lawsuits is to gain attention and threaten/scare people into paying them. Recently their lawsuits havne't been making news so they figgured they'd do something really drastic to get the media's attention. In the end it's just a "whoops, clerical error" and the case gets thrown out. So it costs them a few thousand but gets them more press, which is exactly what they want. | |
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| How could it be? How can this family be computer-less? If RIAA goes by IP, then the ISP gave that address based on their customer records. If the family did subscribe for internet access, they should have a computer.
I doubt they had broadband only to run VOIP.
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| Defamation of character This family can try to sue the RIAA for defamation of character but don't know how far it will get. If this family did not own a computer then the RIAA is falsely accusing them of breaking the law. On top of that, there names will be plastered all over the news.
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| Enough is Enough I, for one am really growing very tired of reading & hearing about the RIAA's problems. They have received enough cheap advertisement. If the Courts would force them to show concrete evidence & the Media would just ignore them, they would loose all of the image that we have given them - even by acknowledging their existence.
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