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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | YAY! Would you like some spyware with the movie? Thank you and come again! | |
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nonpls
@telus.net | Re: YAY! I hope more companies start using bittorrent. It will get harder and harder for the technophobic ISP's to justify throttling uploads. | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA | OH crap ITS 180solution spyware browser hijacker!!!
THEY NEED TO GO TO HELL
THEY NEED TO GO TO JAIL FOR THIS
THIS IS CRIMINAL | |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | lets all go the lobby
lets all go the lobby
lets all go the lobby
And get ourselves a hack | |
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gomer1701ems
join:2001-08-23
Minneapolis, MN
| DRM I read in either the St. Paul Pioneer Press or the Star Tribune (sorry, it was a long day at work, so I don't remember) that they will let you burn it to a "backup DVD," but it can only be viewed on the computer that made the DVD, not a stand-alone DVD player, or another computer.
They also said they were going to price the downloads around the same price as a normal DVD.
Not much progress there, eh?
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
2 edits | Re: DRM said by gomer1701ems  :I read in either the St. Paul Pioneer Press or the Star Tribune (sorry, it was a long day at work, so I don't remember) that they will let you burn it to a "backup DVD," but it can only be viewed on the computer that made the DVD, not a stand-alone DVD player, or another computer. They also said they were going to price the downloads around the same price as a normal DVD. Not much progress there, eh? I read somewhere yesterday they would not allow it to be burned to a DVD.
Edit: Could be wrong, trying to find out now.
Edit: Found it, it was yesterday morning's broadband bytes. In the article it says it wont be able to be burned to a DVD unless something has changed.
»news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060509/en_···bmNhdA-- | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| Same price? DRM? Plays only on the system that downloaded it?
WTF kind of crap are they plastering on the machine that will allow playback that other machines won't have?
Nothing like making a killing on money saved from pressing, packaging,shipping too!
Pass!
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
1 edit | Re: DRM For that matter, AnyDVD will probably remove the BS!  | |
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
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join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX
| There's a way around this. Simply build a HTPC (Home Theater PC) and install Windows Media Center. D/L it to THAT PC, and you're set. With the recent introduction of perpendecular hard drives by Seagate at 750GB, with 960GB coming fairly soon. That'll hold a lot of movies.
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| until downloads give me the same freedom i get from the copy i buy at walmart for 15 bucks their service isnt worth it. infact walmart is close enough to my house i could have the movie and be watching it before the download was 25% finished.
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | or just break the DRM, hey as long as your not putting it up on P2P your exercising fair use if you break the DRM for use on your normal DVD player.
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nklb
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join:2000-11-17
Ann Arbor, MI
clubs:
| Re: DRM said by Kearnstd :or just break the DRM, hey as long as your not putting it up on P2P your exercising fair use if you break the DRM for use on your normal DVD player. While that used to be true I believe that the insidious DMCA now makes it a crime to even attempt to circumvent the encryption, throwing fair use to the wind.
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join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| Re: DRM said by nklb : While that used to be true I believe that the insidious DMCA now makes it a crime to even attempt to circumvent the encryption, throwing fair use to the wind. It's only a crime if you get caught, which I don't think is very likely in this case. | |
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Kxpuc
join:2004-05-04
Houston, TX | blah meh dont really care about the 180Solution part unless it wont run if it's blocked (file or IP wise) | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: blah is spyware legal? | |
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remusrm
join:2003-04-07
Northridge, CA | ... well, have you seen that we pay for a movie and we still get adds... pluck them, this starts to get on my nerves. I should ask for 2 dollars off for seeing that... or just pirage enough to justify the adds... simple... | |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| still not serious entertainment industry is still not serious about selling movies.
Every online download service that has been announced has been the same cost (or more!) for less product, has a difficult to use interface and has anti-consumer DRM. Why on earth would someone purchase a download when they can't watch it on their TV, it takes longer to download than going up to the corner and buying the DVD, contains none of the extras on the DVD and has even more restrictive DRM than the DVD?
After a period of poor sales, Warner will probably declare that piracy is killing the market for paid downloads and use this "failed" effort as a reason congress should pass even more draconian laws to punish "piracy". | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: still not serious said by nasadude :entertainment industry is still not serious about selling movies. Every online download service that has been announced has been the same cost (or more!) for less product, has a difficult to use interface and has anti-consumer DRM. Why on earth would someone purchase a download when they can't watch it on their TV, it takes longer to download than going up to the corner and buying the DVD, contains none of the extras on the DVD and has even more restrictive DRM than the DVD? After a period of poor sales, Warner will probably declare that piracy is killing the market for paid downloads and use this "failed" effort as a reason congress should pass even more draconian laws to punish "piracy". why do you care what they say why do you care at all. survival of the fittest plays a major role here
if you are not a sheep why pay at all
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| Why not just time limited downloads and skip the DRM crap? I think most would be happy spending a buck or 2 on a movie that was just time limited, let you burn it to DVD with same time limit, etc. The movie expires say in 6 months regardless who has it or whatever.
Paying cheap price for a time limit is reasonable, but restricting its use more than that is not. All imo of course.. | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: Why not just time limited downloads and skip the DRM crap? said by markopoleo :I think most would be happy spending a buck or 2 on a movie that was just time limited, let you burn it to DVD with same time limit, etc. The movie expires say in 6 months regardless who has it or whatever. Paying cheap price for a time limit is reasonable, but restricting its use more than that is not. All imo of course.. then again some would be happy if they could watch it for free... YES i said FREE. whats the catch?
bittttttttttttttttttorent  | |
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magusat999
join:2005-07-08
Oakland, CA
| Shows you how quick they are... Sounds like Warner Bros is lost in the stone age. Any 12 year old knows better than to voluntarily allow adware / spyware on their PC. While it may happen by subterfuge, it aint gonna happen if even the average user knows about it. And they obviously have still not figured out that as yet there is no way to control or monitor a system like Bit Torrent... but they will. | |
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haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| Not so worried about DRM/Other restrictions. Where there are Geeks there are Cracks, whatever they do to restrict the content, someone will find a way to crack it off and set the content Free.
They should just drop the DRM and other crap from the beginning, it WILL be defeated so ultimately its useless and a waste of time and Energy. | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: Not so worried about DRM/Other restrictions. ok.. this is stupid i'm not buying it
god how do you get rid of spyware that keeps coming back again and again??????????????????????? | |
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| 180 solutions? solution #1 - don't use/[artner with a spyware company if you want to be legit!
what on earth is this? some kind of sick joke?
I can get far more value from a used dvd, thanks but no thanks.
oh, and have these people heard of Vongo?
laptop + s-video/audio = tv viewing...
sure, can't burn it, but the quality isn't dvd yet anyway.
Hopefully someday these movie people will wise up to an e-music type service, no drm, decent quality, cheap price = happy customer.
that, or another subscription type service like Vongo or Rhapsody (for music). right now, I'll keep Vongo for a bit.
if BT wants my business, they're gonna have to try a "bit" harder than that! Surely this news will not create a "torrential" downfall of customers suddenly wishing for an inferior product with further limitations than can be had for the price of a used disc. | |
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join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: 180 solutions? 180solution are losers
180solution is an illegal browser hijacker
180solution needs to go to hell
180soultion have pissed off many people
What can we do to piss them off back? | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: 180 solutions? said by attsbcisgay :180solution are losers 180solution is an illegal browser hijacker 180solution needs to go to hell 180soultion have pissed off many people What can we do to piss them off back? hit 'em where it hurts the most. THE WALLET!
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Dydion
join:2001-03-07
Baton Rouge, LA
| Just goes to show... ...that assholes hang together. I get the feeling a bunch of coke-heads getting bribes made the primary decisions at a nightclub and sold it to a bunch of old farts at Warners who, as usual, have their heads too far up their own asses to see just how crappy those ideas are. | |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
| whatever hey, leave us pirates in peace. dammit. didja ever stop to think that maybe some of us did this so we don't get flooded with ads and commercials and screeners...and now POP-UPS and hijackings? yeah great  | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: whatever i hate commercial
i hate ads
They are annoying
Why do some think they have a right to spam people
Yet most tolerate this kind of bs?
I think it is a good thing that some people find it annoying and are resisting it. I think that spammers have nothing better to do with their time then make life hell for others.
Why some pay others to get rid of spyware is beyond me. I guess the whole ideas is to annoy people and if ya wanna it removed temporarily, ya gotta pay them.
What a scam. | |
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Bencoder
@insightBB.com
| Re: whatever It's really quite simple. The message from the entertainment industry to the consumer is this:
"We think you're an IDIOT. In fact we are BANKING on it."
On general principle, I try to avoid any products as ridiculous as the one mentioned in the above article. | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Re: whatever They also think all consumers are potential "pirates"
right from the get-go, by putting onerous DRM into
whatever they are offering. | |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | Re: whatever Is it just me or does it seem like the most hardcore pirates are the ones least inconvenienced by protections? | |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN
| I bet that in order to have this overpriced download "at your convenience, you will be required to play back the title with proprietary software (which will have some annoying features that cannot be configured) and will have to surrender all sorts of personal data to "third parties" EVERY time you want to play the title. Yeah AND the movie will require an internet connection to authenticate for playing, thereby making portable playback a hideous hassle. | |
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jarthur31
join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM
| Messed up!!! What's fugged up about this is that they're infecting PAYING CUSTOMERS not the fucken PIRATES! This is ass backwards!!! It's like Sony's rootkit all over again. You assume the buying public are the criminals out there. Wow. This says it all about how they see their customers. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| BitTorrent, eh? So, this means everyone(if anyone) that uses this, will effectively be using my bandwidth too?
On top of the crap DRM & 180Solutions - and it will still cost the same or more than the bargain bin DVDs?
Yeah! That makes ALOT of sense! NOT! 
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