  King P Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul Premium join:2004-11-17 Inman, SC
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1 edit | what about speeds How about some DSL providers increase their speeds, or roll out some new technology. I could care less of who has more subscribers...you know? Although I do find it interesting that DSL outranked Cable in this quarter, especially considering the speed difference. -- Forget 'em, Support the Indies. »www.ind-music.com | |
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1 edit | Re: what about speeds Most of broadband internet users in the US really don't need/want a lot of speed. They just want to pay less and have their phone line available at the same time.
Until cable companies start offering lower tiers with decent prices and actually advertise them instead of using them for customer retention only this trend will continue. | |
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| Re: what about speeds said by Anonymous :Most of broadband internet users in the US really don't need/want a lot of speed. They just want to pay less and have their phone line available at the same time. Until cable companies start offering lower tiers with decent prices and actually advertise them instead of using them for customer retention only this trend will continue. very good point.
I would be happy with 3 Megabits, but I'm stuck with 1.5 and there are several reasons for it. But I still love my ISP and the DSL is rock solid in my area. -- Forget 'em, Support the Indies. »www.ind-music.com | |
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| said by Anonymous :Most of broadband internet users in the US really don't need/want a lot of speed. They just want to pay less and have their phone line available at the same time. Until cable companies start offering lower tiers with decent prices and actually advertise them instead of using them for customer retention only this trend will continue. I for one would pay the cost for faster cable, if the cable was as stable as my DSL, and cable could do the speeds they advertise. I love my 3.0 DSL cause it's rock solid (never fluctuates), and the speed is always 3Mbit/325kbp down/up. Cable seems to never be a solid speed. Very few hours out of the day you can actually hit the advertised speed. Unless your on a 256kbp tier. Anything faster is usually half, or less. | |
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| Re: what about speeds said by stomp357 :said by Anonymous :Most of broadband internet users in the US really don't need/want a lot of speed. They just want to pay less and have their phone line available at the same time. Until cable companies start offering lower tiers with decent prices and actually advertise them instead of using them for customer retention only this trend will continue. I for one would pay the cost for faster cable, if the cable was as stable as my DSL, and cable could do the speeds they advertise. I love my 3.0 DSL cause it's rock solid (never fluctuates), and the speed is always 3Mbit/325kbp down/up. Cable seems to never be a solid speed. Very few hours out of the day you can actually hit the advertised speed. Unless your on a 256kbp tier. Anything faster is usually half, or less. Well that all depends. I have a cable connection (5000/256) and I get 90% 24/7.
In some areas DSL is better and in some areas cable is better. | |
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| said by King P :How about some DSL providers increase their speeds, or roll out some new technology. I could care less of who has more subscribers...you know? Although I do find it interesting that DSL outranked Cable in this quarter, especially considering the speed difference. 6000kbps/768kbps for $27.99/month - DSL is the best bang for your buck (provided you live close enough to a CO or RT!). | |
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2 edits | Re: what about speeds Or you CO is even equipped for DSL, ours isn't. I have Adelphia HSI, 6100 down and 850 up, it's fast all the time and low latency. I wish we could drop the price, 56 a month for that speed (Premier Tier). Cable serves far more people here than DSL, this is a very rural area, and many people live well beyond the CO's (we're 19,000 cable feet from ours), and there are few RT's.
There are some wireless outfits in Mendocino County too, but due to the mountainous terrain here, are EXTREMELY limited in range and coverage, and more expensive. | |
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| I switched from cable to DSL and saving about $19 a month. My cable advertised speeds of 6mps/368. I only received 2.5-3.5 90% of the time and never was close to 4mps. Plus had outages several times a week. I switched to DSL six months ago and the only outage I have had is when I moved the modem to my new office. My speed is a steady 2.5-2.8 all day and night with 620-660 up.
I have the same down speed and twice as fast up speed for $19 cheaper a month.
Plus I have dropped my cable TV. They have raised the price twice already this year. I now save over $20 a month with Dish Network and have all the movie channels (only had HBO with cable) with four TVs hocked up with two 100 hour DVRs.
So I think the main reason why more people are signing up for DSL is because the cable companies simple cost to much for their services. I am saving about $40 per month not have any cable service in my house. | |
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| Re: what about speeds I too, switched from cable (Comcast) to DSL about 1 month ago.
So far, so good. My speeds are constant (3 down, 768 up) and the connection is solid. I was getting regular drops (about weekly) with Comcast, and the slowdowns were HELL on Sundays. Every Sunday morning, the connection would grind to a halt.. | |
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  oliphant I Have 8 Boobies Premium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA | What do you expect for $15 And this will continue so long as cable is $45 and DSL is $15. Not everyone is into speed. | |
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| Re: What do you expect for $15 768K is fast for most people. Viewing web pages and downloading files is still fast. Its not worth the extra money to get a faster speed since web browsing won't be any faster. Heck, my 100mbps fiber connection doesn't load web pages any faster than cable or dsl, but download and uploading is another matter:) -- AWD Turbo Power | |
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| Re: What do you expect for $15 said by Need BB :768K is fast for most people. Viewing web pages and downloading files is still fast. Its not worth the extra money to get a faster speed since web browsing won't be any faster. Heck, my 100mbps fiber connection doesn't load web pages any faster than cable or dsl, but download and uploading is another matter:) How much do you pay for your 100 Mbps download and upload fiber connection please and who offers it? -- Thank God i am not getting married, having kids, going on a date, etc! Oh Thank God!»Re: newzbin.com file datebase now 50 days | |
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join:2001-12-21 Rochester, NY | Re: What do you expect for $15 College - so lots of $$. -- AWD Turbo Power | |
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join:2003-03-18 Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | said by oliphant :And this will continue so long as cable is $45 and DSL is $15. Not everyone is into speed. That is correct sir. If you are not into speed 1.5mbps is all you need and its gonna be 12.99 for 1 year plus 3 months free if you were previously a cable subscriber. Some can get 3.0 and its 17.99 so its pretty cheap still Or 29.99 for the speed demon user. 6.0/768 should be good enough to even please the speed hungry folks.
CC/RR you must listen to me. You must offer lower tier to complete with DSL 1.5/283 for 14.99 3.0/512 for 19.99 6.0/768 for 29.99 10/1.0 for 39.99
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| Re: What do you expect for $15 Don't forget to add in the cost of POTS. For many, its not an issue, as Cable ties its price in with TV.
DSL: $17.95 for 3000/512 + 1 month free - UNBUNDLED! Cable: $29.95 for 6Mpbs/512? for 3 months, $56.95 after UNBUNDLED
Even after adding in $10 - $20 for POTS, its still a lot cheaper, and there's a $12.95 for 1500/384 kbps package too. | |
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I wonder if VZ who now sells dry loop would do their $15 deal dry loop. | |
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  Persona Premium join:2004-07-07 Gravenhurst, ON | in Canada I pay $34/month for cable inet that runs at 7 Mbps...the major DSL provider Bell Sympatico runs over $40/month for 3 Mbps and is incredibly unforgiving when you venture away from the CO and have a house full of old copper | |
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| Re: in Canada Doyou have a bandwidth cap? say 60gb per month for lower tier or 120gb forhigher tier? In America we may not have the best speed or the latest gadget but unlimited use is what set us apart from the rest of the world. What use is 10/10 with 100gb cap? sures itfaster then most provider in USA but ya got limited use so its no beter. | |
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join:2003-03-18 Beverly Hills, CA | Re: in Canada well i guess ya limited oneway or another lol move to america wehave allyou can eat and its cheap too | |
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| Re: in Canada said by Michieru2 :Another sad reason most americans are fat :\ yea that makes a lot of sense. :-\ so broadband makes people fat? nevermind the ironic of your contradiction and lack of humor. | |
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| Re: in Canada You sir don't know why they are fat. You think that we Americans eat a lot to get fat. The truth is what you eat makes you fat. Look at milk, lots of unnatural hormones. I am sorry I am not one of the fat americans you were referring to. quite the contrary, I eat little and weight less then most people at my height.
Fat americans is not funny. it is an epidermic You know they can lose weight by eating right not by eating too much like ya thought.
its what they eat that makes them fat...
Ya from FL? ya should understand... eh?
Either you love America or you do not, make up your mind.
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@comcast.net | Hold The Mayo! I'm Tired of all this DSL is catching up CRAP! @6000 the Verizon Fuchs can't rig their telegraph line to give me broadband.
It's LIES LIES,and all LIES! | |
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| DSL=GOOD I've been completely happy with my DSL service for ~6 years. The only problem I had was when rodents chewed the wires up down the street. Also, AT&T(SBC) will be coming out with dry DSL, so you don't HAVE to buy tone to get DSL. It was part of the agreement when SBC bought AT&T. | |
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join:2005-04-14 Richmond, VA | Re: DSL=GOOD So are we to believe you have SpyT&T? | |
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1 edit | No DSL for me DSL would be good if I could get it. But I can't. Only cable HSI is my option. So, cable is it for me. And to be honest. I am very happy with the service I get. I wonder how many others are in this situation. *** Verizon won't wire my street/area for DSL. And is looking to sell all it's lines in Maine. | |
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| Pricing is not the same in all areas I looked into switching to dsl because of price. I can only get 1.5 and even with the 3-6 month pricing, after I add the pots line cost, dial tone only $11.00+ $13.00 added crap, it still cost the same as my cc 6 mb connection. After the trial period it will be more, and with much slower speed. No thanks qwest, your service is no where near great.
I will turn off my cable, after BB season and save a few bucks. Not worth having in summer, who spends time in front of the boob tube during nice summer evenings?
CC, I guess you have my loyalty, at least for now. 
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  Rob A Same Old Jets Premium join:2005-01-17 Pompton Plains, NJ | Only a matter of time now... Until dsl has more customers than cable entirely. The low price tiers are kicking ass. | |
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| Statistics again Is it the low price tiers or is it a statistical anomaly. DSL is pushing in more rural areas, and is extending there reach. Cable is wiring new areas up. So im wondering how much of the growth is coming from just more availability vrs. competition.
To put it another way. Is DSL taking away subs from cable or are they just getting more subs because there are fewer areas covered by cable?
I'd be int rested to see if New York City growth of DSL outpaces that of Cable in New York City.
Again Telco cable battle is in such an early stage.
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