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join:2001-02-14
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Re: BS can eat ***... Gee, you made some friends kamm. 
I have to agree, BS needs to put out a better product instead of crying. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
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| Re: BS can eat ***... said by moonpuppy  :Gee, you made some friends kamm. Well, telling the truth often hurts... 
I have to agree, BS needs to put out a better product instead of crying.
Exactly.
Fighting for a granted monopoly is bad but doing it after a catastrophe is really disgusting. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
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| Re: BS can eat ***... said by phattieg :said by moonpuppy :Gee, you made some friends kamm. I have to agree, BS needs to put out a better product instead of crying. Yeah, he made some friends, but he evidentally had existing friends in better positions, seeing's how the posts were deleted by the mod. Have you seen those deleted ones? All of them were filled with adhom attacks, unlike mine.
I have been happy without BS (which is an acronym used for many other things) for 6 years. I think any service who tacks on as many bogus/unnecessary/unrelated to your service charges deserves to be dropped. I just don't get how a $15 a month service comes out to more than $35 after "taxes and fees", not to mention all the "features" they like to charge you for on phone service. Oh, and what about the bogus "USF fee" that is charged on data service like DSL? I think it's good that the City said "screw you" and took their business elsewhere...
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: BS can eat ***... 'All of them were filled with adhom attacks, unlike mine.'
*sigh* I guess next time I'll avoid pointing out where you're wrong and tow the BBR line that BellSouth hates America. | |
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| Re: BS can eat ***... said by bogey780 :'All of them were filled with adhom attacks, unlike mine.' *sigh* I guess next time I'll avoid pointing out where you're wrong and tow the BBR line that BellSouth hates America. Dude, I have pointed out a few users who were wrong and have only a few of mine deleted. I have even had one guy threaten to have me kicked off of BBR. Didn't work and a few of his posts were recently "moderated."
You can point out people are wrong as long as you back your position up. Use personal insults and you risk the wrath of the mods.
Now, I will admit, there is sort of a "party line" with many topics here but let's be frankly honest. BellSouth is not playing fair here are they? They don't want competition and are now crying foul because they can't charge for their Wi-Fi network. Put out a better product and a price people will pay and they will come. The law is bought legislation, pure and simple. And we all know how politics work in New Orleans. | |
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join:2004-03-19
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| Re: BS can eat ***... The city wasn't playing fair. They tried to involve their own taxpayer backed free network that was created by politico fiat.
And BellSouth is wrong to be upset when the gov't comes in and uses taxpayer money to cut their knees off?
And I did back up my position. Being near the city actually allows me a type of inside track as to what's going on so my info is based on more than BBR's party line. The competing position was "BellSouth is ^$@$&%&%#*!", so there isn't much to counter. | |
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: BS can eat ***... quote:
Originally, the city had intended to cover the entire city with wireless Internet. That effort, though, has run into legal roadblocks because state law only allows such a city system to operate in times of emergency.
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | I agree they should put out fibers and stop whining about it and actually do something good for New Orleans because the mayor sure wont do shit. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: BS can eat ***... So if BellSouth replaced most of the feeder with fiber so where most of the city was within 1-1.5 miles of an RT would you consider them to be doing a great service to the city? | |
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The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | Re: BS can eat ***... Well it would be a hell of alot better then laying down more copper and it would show that there at-least making an attempt to bring some technology and hopefully bring more people into the city and boost the economy. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: BS can eat ***... Well I hope BellSouth gets around to issuing a press release tooting their own horn for doing so. | |
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@bellsouth.net
| When they do that, they can claim they did a great service... Considering they were on the news recently complaining about people stealing copper cable being installed, its hard to believe they are installing fibre anywhere. And if they are, they are really skimping, putting in as little as possible. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: BS can eat ***... Bellsouth isn't installing fiber to the premise so there is a lot of new copper being placed. Almost all last mile stuff. | |
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@bellsouth.net
| Re: BS can eat ***... Bellsouth isn't installing fiber to the premise so there is a lot of new copper being placed. Almost all last mile stuff. Clearly not that case according to the news report and the Bellsouth representative in that news report. And of course all the footage showed them installing copper and there was no mention of fibre optics anywhere in the news report.
Once again, Bellsouth seems to be doing the job half ass and on the cheap. Instead of making a long term investment that makes sense given the status of much of their network in that area, they dropped the ball. | |
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join:2004-03-19
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| Re: BS can eat ***... Well I have no obligation to respond to anonymous jerks.
You're ignorant of the situation and your "proof" is laughable. Why would they talk about installing fiber on a report of copper theft?
This really is expected. Jerks who know less than nothing about what BellSouth is actually installing feel fre yto pointificate about how horrible a job BellSouth is doing.
This faith based hatred you have towards BellSouth is symptomatic of a deeper psychosis. Get help.
Get an account and I'll respond more politely. Anon-trolls get no respect. | |
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koam
Pink Pecker
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join:2000-08-16
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. 1) They passed a law to make sure that nobody else could put anything better than 128kbps. I smell Bell South (BS) lawsuit pending, warranted or not.
2) Its actual competition.
I don't have a problem with it. Bell South could have deployed something, however, BS appears to be the most slow moving, monopolistic, anticompetitive telco in North America. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | BellSouth did deploy wireless. It just wasn't free which is what everyone here hates.
And BST has some of the largest DSL availability of any company. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
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| Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. said by bogey780 :BellSouth did deploy wireless. It just wasn't free which is what everyone here hates. Wrong.
We hate the fact that 1) they successfully lobbied for such a corrupt law 2) they attacked the free NO mesh when it was still under water, only to protect their monopoly. | |
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join:2004-03-19
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| Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. 1) BellSouth has dial-up internet which the gov't would directly compete against using a taxpayer funded network.
2) The NO mesh network was mainly operating in areas that never went under water.
Don't let your emotions overhwelm you to the point you spout off ignorantly. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
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2 edits | Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. said by bogey780 :1) BellSouth has dial-up internet which the gov't would directly compete against using a taxpayer funded network. ROFL... wow, it's so pathetic "reasoning" that it requires no comment, it's telling about the mindset of BS (and its 'friends' like you) as it is.
2) The NO mesh network was mainly operating in areas that never went under water.
Umm I never thought you will take it literally...
How about reflecting on my points...?
Don't let your emotions overhwelm you to the point you spout off ignorantly.
Yawn. Being such a BS-mouthpiece and arrogantly spouting its - usually deceptive - propaganda instead of answering at least ONE of my points is really making you look foolish, believe me... | |
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join:2004-03-19
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| Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. What point have you made? Your errors have been pointed out already and you barrel on making the same erroneous statements.
BellSouth opposed a taxpayer funded network that competed with them. It competed in them mostly in areas where service was restored or wireless service comparable in speed and cost to a landline was offered.
As I said, you're ignorant of the situation and swearing and stomping won't make you any more of an "expert". | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
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1 edit | Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. said by bogey780 :What point have you made? See #1-2.
Your errors have been pointed out already and you barrel on making the same erroneous statements.
And what is "erroneus" actually?
The fact that BS lobbied for its granted monopoly or the fact that BS fought against the temporary free muni mesh after a catastrophe?
BellSouth opposed a taxpayer funded network that competed with them. It competed in them mostly in areas where service was restored or wireless service comparable in speed and cost to a landline was offered.
As I said, you're ignorant of the situation and swearing and stomping won't make you any more of an "expert".
After recognising the classic blueprint of BS-spin in all of your reactions one can only wonder who do you work for... | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. 'or the fact that BS fought against the temporary free muni mesh after a catastrophe?'
temporary means it comes to an end. So you should be happy BellSouth didn't fuss after the catastrophe and made sure it stayed temporary. | |
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@mindspring.com | hey lay off him man. i mean after all he knows about Mayor Nagin and Cox communications. I]m amazing how he knows the pulse of LA from NY | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| said by bogey780 :BellSouth did deploy wireless. It just wasn't free which is what everyone here hates. $70 dollars? $30 .. even $40, but $70? That's just crazy.
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Of course BellSouth doesn't like it.. It is $39.95 for 1.5mb/s with no residential phone service.
That's not a bad price. | |
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join:2005-06-03
Metairie, LA
| Thats messed up... man thats messed up that a mod is gonna delete my post... IT WAS THE TRUTH and there was nothing vulgar about it! everyone is entitled to their opinion! and i think BS suxx... and they did make things worse in the darkest hour! im from new orleans... BS may be great elsewhere, but for NO, it suxx...
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I Need A Drink
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join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| Re: Thats messed up... NO is already a wasteland of radio spectrum. Earthlink has no idea whats in store for them. Just wait and see. The cell phone carriers have already violated FCC rules and regs. After Katrina, they lost a lot of their wired backhauls and they had to jury rig ways to keep the towers up. They tried to do it cheaply and use free spectrum which was a bad idea, and it ruined all of the other operators that were already there. 
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jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
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join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR | Funding Does anyone know how this was funded? Did Earthlink fund this themselves or did they have access to taxpayer supported $$$$$$ due to Katrina funding? | |
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| Re: Funding The wireless network that exists now, the non-Earthlink section, was created by the city as a crimefighting tool to backhaul wireless cameras located in high crime areas where they couldn't run wires. It also was designed to provide data access for first responders. That network was also used, supposedly, for a new parking system they put in that does payment submission and processing wirelessly.
What they essentially did is open the excess capacity of the network to everyone. So, yes, its a tax funded network, but it was not created with the specific intent of creating a muni network. It wasn't designed to compete with Bellsouth and it really doesn't since Bellsouth doesn't offer a product where you have take your laptop and wirelessly access the internet in the city. Their wireless product requires an antenna and receiver.
As well, post-Katrina, the network was upgraded/expanded with donated equipment from several large vendors. The amount of equipment was something in the 100,000's of thousands of dollars.
The new part of the network outlined in this news piece was paid for by Earthlink.
So its combination of the city network giving away extra capacity and a new network created by Earthlink.
There's nothing here really for the Bellsouth folks to be crying about. | |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
| .. Whats with all the hostility in this thread ? Bell South lobbied to prevent a MUNI to build out an internet service FASTER than 128k. Soooo what? In my opinion, muni's should not be sticking their noses into this kind of business. JUST AS they should not be opening Muni-grocery stores and bowling alleys. How bout a Muni-barbershop?  What would have been the big deal for the city to cut it to 128kb as the law states? Honestly, BS should sue the city after all is straightened out in that city.
If Earthlink designs and maintains a city-wide WiFi, FINE. It should not be government run and it shouldnt be paid by taxpayers.
Hypothetically, if a muni wi-fi was the only provider of internet service, can you imagine how EXPENSIVE it would be? Sure , it might start out somewhat inexpensive, but will turn into nothing but another tax ripping off the users. Throw it in the same boat as outrageous tolls on Bridges and tunnels. In NYC , you dont get a $110 parking ticket for street cleaning rules and you dont pay a quarter for 10 minutes at a meter to help consumers move their cars in business areas. Its ALL ABOUT REVENUE for the city. Muni Wi-Fi's will be no different. | |
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