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Around the Industry:

Minneapolis goes Wi-Fi, with WiMAX to follow

Will Vista make Net 'slow and gooey'?

Silicon Valley set to receive free Wi-Fi

Russia and the Allofmp3.com conundrum

Commentary: China's internet addiction: a friendly 'invasion' gone bad?

SecurityBits:

Microsoft confirms new Word zero-day attack

Symbian phones targeted as carriers for Windows worm

TidBytes:

Firefox Gains Share, IE Loses

Apple hints at movie download service

Google to offer news archive going back 300 years

Pioneering desktop Linux project put on ice

More news from around the industry, SecurityBits, and interesting Tidbytes inside!

Around The Industry:

Minneapolis goes Wi-Fi, with WiMAX to follow:

Minneapolis is the latest large U.S. city to commit to building a citywide wireless network, but the city will hedge its bets by rolling out Wi-Fi initially and retaining the capability of upgrading to WiMAX and 3G at a later date. Suppliers BelAir Networks and US Internet said the deployment will cover a 54-squre-mile sector of the city. A one-mile-square Wi-Fi pilot network is already up-and-running. "Learning from the experiences and challenges faced by other cities, Minneapolis has chosen both a business model and a technology solution that ensure immediate, ongoing, and sustainable benefits," Minneapolis's Mayor said in a statement.

Will Vista make Net 'slow and gooey'?:

Microsoft's launch of Windows Vista could slow down or stall traffic on the Net, said Paul Mockapetris, who is widely credited with inventing the Internet's Domain Name System (DNS). Mockapetris believes Vista's introduction will cause a surge in DNS traffic because the operating system supports two versions of the Internet Protocol: "You're going to see brownouts. All of a sudden, it is going to be mud season on the Internet, where things will just be kind of slow and gooey."

Silicon Valley set to receive free Wi-Fi:

A consortium of technology companies, including I.B.M. and Cisco Systems, announced plans for a vast wireless network that would provide free Internet access to big portions of Silicon Valley and the surrounding region as early as next year. The project will cover 1,500 square miles in 38 cities in San Mateo, Santa Clara, Alameda and Santa Cruz Counties, an area of 2.4 million residents. Its builders, going by the name Silicon Valley Metro Connect, said the service would provide free basic wireless access at speeds up to 1mbps.

Russia and the Allofmp3.com conundrum:

A year ago, Russian authorities investigated Allofmp3.com and found that the company was not violating local laws. However, as Russia tries to join the WTO, the US (and its friends in the entertainment industry) have made it clear they will block Russia's attempt to join unless they shut down Allofmp3 and similar sites. Luckily, just such a law went into effect last week. However, the recording industry continues to mistakenly focus on how Russian internet sales are way too low, rather than how it could learn from the site about how (a) people are willing to pay for un-protected MP3 files and (b) how they're much more willing to pay when the prices are a much more reasonable price than what the industry is charging (both of which counteract claims by the industry that there's no way to fight "piracy" and that DRM is necessary).

Commentary: China's internet addiction: a friendly 'invasion' gone bad?:

"China is certainly among the principal players of the internet market; yet with recent contradictions and controversies regarding the country's usage of the Web, there is question as to where the industry is driving Chinese users - or more accurately, where they are allowing themselves to be taken: "Within the last ten years, China has become...the country with the most serious Internet addiction [and] it is becoming worse." It has been estimated that one in eight users in China is psychologically dependent on the internet, but statistics also show that young people are the primary constituents of this pool, with over 13% currently addicted to the online world."

Vodafone tests 1.8Mbps HSDPA:

Forty Vodafone customers have been given an early taste of the telco's upgrade to its 3G service which will be officially launched later in the year. The upgrade of Vodafone's 3G mobile network to the HSDPA protocol will increase download speeds from 384Kbps to a peak of 1.8Mbps. The chosen few were hand-picked by Vodafone account managers to trial and provide feedback on the telco's new HSDPA network which will be marketed as "mobile broadband" to spare consumers from the cumbersome acronym.Vodafone would not reveal the official launch date of the service, but said it would be before the end of the year.

HSDPA 'will fail in consumer market':

"HSDPA is not going to make the impact on the consumer market that the networks think," Sarian Systems said, even as they launched an HSDPA-compatible router. "3G has so far failed to drive growth and we can't see how HSDPA is going to fix that." Sarian suggested that the key market for HSDPA would be point-to-point wireless connectivity within organisations — which it dubs machine-to-machine (M2M) — due to the technology's ability to produce speeds comparable to that of broadband. The company said network operators "have yet to recognise this".

Warning, 3G(SM) delays ahead:

Om Malik reports: "A few months ago, we had observed that carrier consolidation in the US will become a dangerous affliction for hardware makers, especially those who are tied closely into the incumbent ecosystem. The word on the street is a big carrier (take a guess) could be slowing down its 3G rollout, a move that could impact the 3G ecosystem. (It is unlikely to impact the US carriers that are using CDMA-based 3G technologies on their networks.)"

Cingular brings HSDPA to Ohio:

Columbus residents are the first in Ohio to receive Cingular's HSDPA wireless network. Cingular's 3G network is the first widely available service in the world to use HSDPA technology. HSDPA is the high-speed evolution of GSM/EDGE (Global System for Mobile Communication/Enhanced Data Rates for Global Evolution), which shares a common core network. GSM is the world's most popular wireless technology, which is used by more than one billion people in 210 countries.

SecurityBits:

Microsoft confirms new Word zero-day attack:

MS confirmed that malicious attackers are exploiting a new, undocumented flaw in Word 2000 to load back-door Trojans known as Win32/Wordjmp and Win32/Mofeir on Windows machines. The acknowledgment follows a warning from Symantec that the threat was detected in the wild targeting Windows 2000, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP systems. A spokesman for MS said the company's security response team has investigated the report and concluded that the attack is limited to users of Word 2000.

Symbian phones targeted as carriers for Windows worm:

F-Secure has posted details of a Windows virus which can use a Symbian handset to transport itself between systems. The Mobler worm infects a Windows system, hides the Windows folder and sets about copying itself into different directories and on to any removable media available. It also creates a Symbian installation file which, if executed by an unwary user, installs a copy of the virus onto any removable media on the handset. Once there it depends on a curious user to execute it when attached to another computer.

Hardware, Software, and other TidBytes:

Firefox Gains Share, IE Loses

Apple hints at movie download service

Google to offer news archive going back 300 years

Pioneering desktop Linux project put on ice

Dynamic Video Game Ads Gain Support

Intel Cuts 10,500 Jobs In Continuing Restructuring

Facebook allows you to snoop on your friends; users getting creeped out
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88615298 (banned)
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Slow and gooey internet

Perhaps they should use Drain-O for clearing the goo out of the internet tubes.

PliotronX
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Re: Slow and gooey internet

No, they already have perfectly good lottery balls to clear up the internets tubes.

RayW
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RayW

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Will Vista stall Net traffic?

Vista may cause an increase in DNS traffic, but not to the extent predicted by Mockapetris, Microsoft countered in a statement provided to CNET News.com last week.
Someone save this quote, it will be interesting to see what happens next year. After all, despite hearing the 64K memory statement since around 1985 and now having it now said it never happened ........
and if Vista was all of a sudden deployed everywhere,
This is the statement that may make the slowdown not true. I am not converting until I have to, and I know a lot of others that will not. (well, I do have a co-worker who has alpha and beta'ed it since the day it was still a dog, he SAYS he likes it now.)

Jodokast96
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Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?

said by RayW:

I am not converting until I have to, and I know a lot of others that will not.
I just converted my last machine over from 98SE within the last few months. As it is, I only use 2k now. I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon.

RayW
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RayW

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Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?

98se, 2K, and xpPro at home. The Linux machine died and I have too many microsoft only programs that have to run .

On the work front, we are being forced to upgrade our 2K laptops (and all other Intel systems I am told) at work (US government) to XP. Kind of stupid, 400 MHz processors with 128 Meg of memory running XP?

Sabre
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Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?

said by RayW:

On the work front, we are being forced to upgrade our 2K laptops (and all other Intel systems I am told) at work (US government) to XP. Kind of stupid, 400 MHz processors with 128 Meg of memory running XP?
Been there. Still have several at work. On 4GB hard drives. They run. (Strictly speaking, they run. Very poorly.)

I've had XP for less than a year, and I have too many other drains on my resources right now to upgrade to Vista. I think that's one of the major reasons this stalling claim is overblown. There won't be much at first, and perhaps it will push those who need to upgrade backends to do it.
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Stop yer whinin...

Old laptops like that run just fine if you learn to tweak the startup and graphics processing...I'm on XP on a Celeron 300 w/90 mb of ram. Unless you NEED quicktime, shockwave, and flash for work, it does what it's supposed to.

RayW
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RayW

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Re: Stop yer whinin...

said by roady1:

Old laptops like that run just fine if you learn to tweak the startup and graphics processing...I'm on XP on a Celeron 300 w/90 mb of ram. Unless you NEED quicktime, shockwave, and flash for work, it does what it's supposed to.
Whining? Look at the bigger picture and dig out your wallet.

XP modified may run just fine, but what is the point in upgrading 500+ stand alone laptops used as test controllers and diagnostic aids from 2K to XP, except to give Gates and company more money/pay back of bribes? 2K worked fine WITHOUT TWEAKING. This is $50000+ (granted, a mere drop in the bucket for the feds) in YOUR tax dollars wasted for no value added (not counting the $100/hour labor rate to do the updates and testing, plus any application changes required).

David
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said by Jodokast96:
said by RayW:

I am not converting until I have to, and I know a lot of others that will not.
I just converted my last machine over from 98SE within the last few months. As it is, I only use 2k now. I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon.
You and me both... I have one XP machine in my house, I borrow ed a few things from it to tweak/modify my windows XP machine. Like shutdown.exe and a few other care pkgs. Works wonders..

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If there is a slowdown, it is one all the most vociferous internet adherents have been begging for - a switchover to IPV6. So the only issue is will the DNS system be upgraded to handle IPV6 or won't it. This idiot complaining about Vista has targeted the wrong product. The real goal should be to upgrade the ancient DNS systems managed by all the ISPs.

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RadioDoc

Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?

* ding *

But all those limping DNS systems can't be blamed on Microsoft, so there's no rabble-rousing punditry possible. And these guys (past accomplishments, notwithstanding) live by stirring shit at Microsoft's (and other large corporations') expense.

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Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?

Exactly! Providers have neglected DNS for far too long, upgrading everything else while leaving it on half-ass equipment with marginal speed.

In the 90s, the typical network admin mindset was "how good can I make this network?" while today it's much closer to "how little can we do to just keep it as-is?"

redxii
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DNS traffic? How many times does download.windowsvista.com need to be resolved to 70.183.191.81 during a single download?

RayW
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Re: Will Vista stall Net traffic?

said by redxii:

DNS traffic? How many times does download.windowsvista.com need to be resolved to 70.183.191.81 during a single download?
Well, the details were not posted as to why the guy said it. Just some hints that it will be more often due to checks for IPv4 and IPv6. Our local beta tester just went "huh?" when I asked about it. I am of the 'time will tell' opinion.

viperpa33s
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Will never happen

The RIAA will never learn and never give the music buyer choice. They will continue to sell sub cd quality formats at 99 cents or more, cause they think the music buyer is dumb. Allofmp3 is a site that the RIAA could learn from considerably buy won't. Will also cut down or eliminate sharing considerably.

Giving people choice is not in the RIAA's vocabulary.

RadioDoc

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RadioDoc

Re: Will never happen

If the RIAA had a brain (yeah I know...keep dreaming) they would buy allofMP3. The infrastructure, customers and revenue stream is right there...

vdiv
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Vista clogging the net

Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out

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Re: Vista clogging the net

said by vdiv:

Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out
And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?

Fatal Vector
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Re: Vista clogging the net

"And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?"

Then again, to place the shoe on the other foot one could ask you:

Why would you pay for it and enrich Bill Gates? Considering that XP is fine for most users now and the only real reason Microsoft has for releasing a new OS of any kind is because their revenue stream is getting stale because XP has been well adopted by now.

Never mind that Vista is sure to be riddled with flaws and holes, just as every other microsoft OS has been, that you will be patching ad nauseum.

Microsoft should be buisy fortifying XP and improving on it by adding features, etc, instead of following their standard marketing ploy every few years. But then, they've found that the lemmings will run to fall off the cliff, even if their new offering sucks and is full of DRM.

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Re: Vista clogging the net

said by Fatal Vector:

"And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?"

Then again, to place the shoe on the other foot one could ask you:

Why would you pay for it and enrich Bill Gates?
Because I'm not a thief.
This is the way Capitalism, Consumerism, and the Retail Market system works. A product is offered for sale, I may purchase it or not, at my discretion. The fact that I might consider it to be over-priced is not justification for stealing it. That's justification for not purchasing it (and I have no intention of purchasing or using it, btw).
But then, I am proud to say I have a moral value system.
Something many others apparently do not have.

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Well for one, software is considered intellectual property and purchasing a license for it is the LEGAL option to follow...yeah Gates might be rediculously rich but that doesn't mean we should start robin-hooding in wholesale from Microsoft.

As far as being full of bugs and exploitable...well Microsoft doesn't exactly have a good track record on new OS releases being free of problems. Then again no software is ever really bug free at release...I will stick with XP until Vista is proven to be stable...probably after Vista SP2 LOL.

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said by AB57:
said by vdiv:

Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out
And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?
NOPE!
pirate versions are likely to be modified[DRM removed]

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Re: Vista clogging the net

said by dvd536:
said by AB57:
said by vdiv:

Of course it will happen. It already is happening... All these people (including me) downloading beta version now will revert to downloading pirate copies when it comes out
And why would you (and all these people) do that?
Because you're a jerk, or just a thief? Or both?
NOPE!
pirate versions are likely to be modified[DRM removed]
yay but that DRM is for in@el (DRM enabled ones that means core 2 duo) cpus

that makes AMD a another reason to buy AMD

AB57
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said by dvd536:

NOPE!
pirate versions are likely to be modified[DRM removed]
And maybe a thing or two added, as well, depending on where you get it from.
I have no use for DRM. There is a difference, however, between buying something, then suiting it to your needs, and stealing something, or purchasing at discount something you know is and was obtained illegally. But I guess we must all do what we feel is right, given a particular situation.
said by Anonymous88:

but that DRM is for in@el (DRM enabled ones that means core 2 duo) cpus

that makes AMD a another reason to buy AMD
I believe AMD has had DRM for a long time. I'm no expert, but I heard that it was a sort of
'little known secret'.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.